It is still too weak. Even with Looters in the Kingdom, it would be highly unlikely that you can play splitter, Loanshark, 2 Ruins which is really the only situation in which this shines. Being able to play one Ruins is OKish, the card then had the same vanillas as Junk Dealer. But how often do these stars align (splitter, Loan Shark, Ruins in hand, identical Ruins in discard)? If you don’t have a copy of that Ruins in hand, the card is kinda like „+1 Card Trash a card“ which is worse than Maroon.^ I think this needs to say "look through your discard pile" first (Eremit, and in general, you're not allowed to search it otherwise), and I think it also needs to be stronger to be viable. Right now, even if you get +2 Actions off of this (which you very rarely will), it's "+2 Actions, trash one card, discard this delayed", which is weak since you can't straight-forwardly use it on junk. And the floor is that you get no Actions at all. (Also, "action card" -> "Action card".)
good points. Posting an updated version, added "+1 action +1$" and cards from that pile as well. so you can get the benefit from ruins, or split piles from later expansion
I like this but I am pretty sure that this is a $4. Anything but Ruined Village and Survivors is decent. Supposed you get Library, Mine and Market. Then you get Market + 2 Villages. Suppose you get two Mines and whatever, then this is strictly better than Conclave.QuoteRedoubt
$3 - Action - Looter
+3 Actions
Gain 3 Ruins to your hand. This turn, after playing a Ruins, return it to its pile.
It uses “after” instead of “when” in the same way that Inspiring does. The timing of the return to pile matters for Way of the Mouse using Redoubt as the set aside card.
Redoubt is a friendly Looter like Death Cart. You are tempted by the possibility of Peddler or a Lab. But some combinations are comparable to $2-cost cards (e.g. Ruined Village x2 + Ruined Mine ≈ Squire). The best effects hinge on Ruined Library. Careful play order is needed so that the desirable Ruins don’t get buried deep. Lean too heavily into Redoubt, and the opponent may just gain and trash the Ruined Libraries, leaving you with a mess of stop-cards. It’s still a double Necropolis if you can get draw elsewhere and have a way to deal with the undesirable terminal Ruins. And it helps counter the unfriendly Attack - Looters.
Redoubt could partially replace Beggar as a card that gains a lot of cheap cards to your hand. It has strong synergies as does Beggar, but Redoubt is more usable in a normal kingdom without those specific combos, while Beggar usually just sits there. Another 2E card can replace Beggar’s defensive Reaction.
Early on, i.e. until the Ruins are out, it net trashes one, gives you two vanillas and basically something like -1 Card as the junk is topdecked.QuoteRuinous Route • $4 • Action - Looter
You may gain a Ruin to your Deck's top to trash two cards from your Hand.
Choose one: +1 Action and +$1; or play up to two Ruins from the Trash.Sadly there are only three official Looters, but none of them allow you to use them as Actions - Death Cart merely uses them as fodder. Cultist and Marauder use Ruins like Curses.
This uses Dark Age's theme of self junking, like Beggar, Death Cart; Count.
This would replace Beggar - a card i have never bought, nor have seen a kingdom where it would be of much use. I would also toss-out Survivors.Beggar is pretty decent in Knight games and centralizing with Guildhall.
I don’t know whether it is stronger or weaker than Archer. But Pillage is a guaranteed Coin spike that you want either early in the game or in situations in which you need that very Coin spike (you trashed down quickly, got decent draw but not much payload, …). The Attack is nice and strong but not the reason you buy Pillage.I don't think it's better than Archer.
You're absolutely right. Didn't think of archer. A price of 4 makes more sense:QuoteEach other player with 5 or more cards in hand reveals all but one and discards one of them that you choose.
If a player discarded a card costing more than this, trash this.
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When you trash this, gain 2 Spoils.
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Cost: $4
Type: Action - Attack
You can put overpowered in quotation marks as often as you want to, it does not make card strength any less relevant. If you ignore power level in your designs, you will sooner or later come up with things than cannot be salvaged.All this does not mean that [...] you cannot, and when analyzing fan designs should not, deeply care about [card strength]
Why not? I think that's exactly what it means.
I mean the "you should think about" thing is bit of an applause line because you can always say that it's better to think about something than not think about it. But I claim that "overpowered" is not a valid criticism and there's no reason to ever make that critique in writing (or judging). And you didn't give any reason why this would be a reasonable thing; you just stated it.
Even when designing a card, I don't think about powerlevel. I think about what kind of new idea I want to do. Then sometimes when it's done, I think about whether this particular idea would work better as a strong or weak card. And if it's too weak, I do something to fix that.* But it's not a key concern.
* since "underpowered" is a different category because if a card is consistently the weakest card on the board that is actually an issue.
So if the only thing "over" (which is a comparative word) can target is other cards, and if it's not a bad thing if a card is stronger than other cards, well then "overpowered" is obviously not an applicable concept. (I've been saying this for years now.)As Dominion does feature a fixed and not a rotating card pool like other deckbuilders, gama balance is indeed not that sensitive to varying card strength. As you neatly pointed out via Donate, Events are even less sensitive to them and e.g. Summon being virtually strictly stronger than Demand is not a huge issue.
OP still isn't a coherent concept (OP -- over what?) but the ability to turn random +buys into spoils is pretty bonkers. Any cantrip +buy is going to have a field day with Alcove. Counterfeit will, too.Card strength is not existing? Now that is a crazy notion.
AlcoveThis would be funky with Chapel. Open Chapel/Alcove. T3: Chapel, Alcove, 3 Estates. Blow the green up for 3 Spoils.
Action/Reaction - $3
Gain a Spoils, putting it anywhere in your deck.
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When you gain or trash a card, you may reveal this from your hand, to exchange the card for a Spoils
That is strictly better than Ride.How about:
Oh yeah it's an event I forgot to add that in the mockup
I feel that this is kinda weak. It's rare to want to trash an action or treasure that costs $3 or more, so this becomes like a weaker ride. I think you can include the ability to trash victory cards and it becomes better.
Sometimes I want to trash a silver or another horse. Maybe it could be fine with +buy. Trashing an estate for 2 horses in the open feels busted.
"Once per turn, you may trash a card from your Hand, if it costs at least $3, +1 Horse per $1 it costs; otherwise, +1 Horse."
Looks extremely weak. The third copy you play becomes slightly stronger than a one-shot Monument. It could easily be non-terminal (and still be weak), then the fourth copy becomes at least stronger than Experiment.
Keg (Action - Reserve - Victory)
Put this on on your Tavern
mat, then +1 Card per Keg
on your Tavern mat.
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You draw more cards as you accumulate more Kegs. That's the evolution.
