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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 4)

« on: April 15, 2021, 06:25:02 pm »

Mix, did you miss this?

My first power is that I learn random (although it says it depends on the current game state) things passively, I learned that a human aligned can turn cylon aligned (which confirms Awaclus' story) , and I learned what the turning point for military being president without losing their powers is (they lose the order deck and gain day powers, this will be public information once it happens, so I don't think it's relevant. I'll say it if you ask for it though.)

Consider me asking... I'd guess it's actually more relevant than your telling us, since my going assumption was that ADK didn't want to be president to avoid this turning point. But it doesn't actually sound that bad from their perspective...

Also, yesterday you kept waiting and waiting for robz to check in before you were going to reveal something? What was it (I assume you revealed it in the info dump) and why was it important to wait for Robz?

I didn't miss it, it was just kinda early in the day and I didn't see the point.

So, when a military becomes the president and does not choose to revoke their powers, the presidential powers are replaced with two powers: a day roleblocker, which is public and blocks for the next night, and a day vigilante, which if it hits town, triggers another turning point.

And the thing I was hinting at was a misunderstandment: at the time, I thought ADK was a redirector, and since they had picked Swowl and scola, I wanted to shed some light on the "conflict" between Swowl and LaLight. But then ADK reminded me that's not how their power works, so I never ended up saying anything.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 4)

« on: April 15, 2021, 12:14:42 pm »

MiX are you planning on keeping ADK as VP or changing to someone else?

I'm planning on changing VPs, but I'm not sure to whom.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 4)

« on: April 15, 2021, 07:39:06 am »

Well, enough people have acknowledged their existence.

I learned that there's at least 1 cylon-aligned player in the jack wagon. Which is why I'm voting scola and not jack.

Is this information good? Not really. Does anyone have anything better? Well, maybe Awaclus or Swowl did.

Also, my executive orders are Curfew, Presidential Pardon and Isolate Colonial One. I'm tempted to pick Isolate Colonial One so I don't die.

I believe Curfew is the only pro-town option out of those three.  The other two are strictly Pro-MiX.

How does it help town? We're a point where if town's Hated enough, and we misexile, scum can all pile on one person and kill them.

I agree that Presidential Pardon just helps me, but Isolate Colonial One seems fine. Spend your investigative powers elsewhere, it's not like they're going to waste.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 4)

« on: April 15, 2021, 07:36:06 am »

I was in a QT with ADK, Swowl, and LaLight. ADK didn’t convince me, though; Swowl did. And when I saw his flip, I was sold.

Fairly sure the bolded is a lie.  Like, 93% sure.

I will say that swowl expressed a pretty strong townread on mix in the viper qt. Whether it's plausible that that convinced didds is another story

Ha. I'd assumed you convinced Didds, some way or another.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 4)

« on: April 15, 2021, 07:35:34 am »

do you*

eh, I broke the meme

Swowl has been incapacitated. They were Sharon "Boomer" Valerii, and they were human-aligned. They had the following types of powers:

• 2-shot, blocking, protective
• miscellaneous, investigative, passive
• miscellaneous, passive

I have 3 powers, so town better start claiming results!

Awaclus has been incapacitated! They were Billy Keikeya, and they were human-aligned. They had the following powers:

• 2-shot, investigative
• 1-shot, miscellaneous

I only have 2!

LaLight:

I only have 1, what are you talking about?

Mathdude:

Wait, you guys can use powers?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 4)

« on: April 15, 2021, 07:16:37 am »

I'm starting to think he could be a Survivor.

Yeah, I've been considering that too (complete with the speculation about the jury-of-peers thing being part of the role), but I feel like him outright saying that he wants to be alive at the end is too close to his actual role to be a fake-claim that would stand any chance of throwing us off his tracks, if that's what we think it might be. I  do agree that MiX has been kind of broadcasting 3rd party vibes for quite a while, though.

@MiX, how early in this game did you learn that ADK was third-party?

@ADK, are you going to openly confirm your status, or do you claim that MiX is lying?

Actually one more piece that doesn't quite add up: Mix claimed his two powers were getting random factoids and running the Cylon test. But the cylon test didn't exist until the 2nd day. So at the start of the game, Mix's role in an RMM would be town with a simple passive power and that's it.

However, if we consider Survivor MiX, then a 2nd passive (but big) power, being able to possibly escape a brigging, plus an alternative win condition? That sounds much more like an RMM to me.

And I could imagine that gaining the Cylon testing machine power wasn't a character power, but an artifact of his being president at the start of D2. Maybe it's a President / VP thing?

(would that it had been a President / Fleet Admiral thing, but I can say it's not me who has the test power).

OR maybe it's just the President, and it works completely differently, but MiX leading us to believe it's a 2 person thing, would allow him to steer our understanding of the results in a way that favors his survival.

I can explain this: I had the ability to choose "human" or "cylon" N1 for the cylon testing machine, but I didn't know what it meant. I only learned D2 how the machine works (that is, how it's influenced by my decision at night).

how about a massclaim?

I agree with this.

Can you restate your other power? The one that isn't watcher on yourself.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 4)

« on: April 14, 2021, 10:39:55 pm »

I read ADK's post a couple of times and I confirm everything they're saying.

-I'm in a Viper Pilot neighborhood with didds, LL, and swowl, that's the QT ash is referring to. swowl claimed on N2 in that neighborhood that he was also in a neighborhood with another player, whose identity he didn't disclose, who he said he was townreading. I'm guessing this is ash, which makes ash a pretty unlikely scum candidate, since he wouldn't want to kill the person who was giving him information

Swowl was in a QT N3 with Space, and N2 with who you presume is ash...so who were they linked with N1?

swowl said he had his mystery qt since the start of the game. Is there a reason to think he was linked with someone N1? I honestly might have missed a claim somewhere

Oh, okay. It's just that Swowl's been in 3 QTs now, maybe some of them are from his powers? He had 2 passives, after all.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 4)

« on: April 14, 2021, 09:50:10 pm »

I read ADK's post a couple of times and I confirm everything they're saying.

-I'm in a Viper Pilot neighborhood with didds, LL, and swowl, that's the QT ash is referring to. swowl claimed on N2 in that neighborhood that he was also in a neighborhood with another player, whose identity he didn't disclose, who he said he was townreading. I'm guessing this is ash, which makes ash a pretty unlikely scum candidate, since he wouldn't want to kill the person who was giving him information

Swowl was in a QT N3 with Space, and N2 with who you presume is ash...so who were they linked with N1?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 4)

« on: April 14, 2021, 07:35:06 pm »

So, I'm inclined to think that Mix is 3rd Party. There seems to be an abundance of clues to that throughout everything.

He himself told us he he wants to be alive at the end if the game, saying it was his character arc. But what if instead it's his role itself? I'm starting to think he could be a Survivor.

He seems very focused on staying alive, which is something we all do, but combine his decisions for staying alive, with his decisions that have been anti town. Also the kind of info he has claimed to receive for his power (assuming they are true) would definitely be useful for a Survivor - learning that some human-aligned can convert, that there was 1 Cylon-aligned on a wagon, etc.

The fact that he was not brigged when we voted him could even be a 1 shot power of his; something like, one time, when you are voted to be brigged, you will instead be tried by jury.  (this could be the case even if he's not 3rd party, but scum instead)

My last potential reason for this idea is that his character is Baltar. That would be the exact right character for such a role. And we do not that characters have related game effects like this - Roslin started out as President, Helo started out off the Galactica.

Ok yes but why would I lie now? If I was a third-party, I wouldn't had ratted ADK out, I would've claimed it myself.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 4)

« on: April 14, 2021, 03:52:02 pm »

I think having had almost no one die this entire game is making it pretty tough.

Think about it this way: it's basically D2 of a regular game with a misexile and an extra NK, and we have 2 more nights of info, in theory.

Can you promise you'll play the game this day?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 4)

« on: April 14, 2021, 03:50:31 pm »

Well, enough people have acknowledged their existence.

I learned that there's at least 1 cylon-aligned player in the jack wagon. Which is why I'm voting scola and not jack.

Is this information good? Not really. Does anyone have anything better? Well, maybe Awaclus or Swowl did.

Also, my executive orders are Curfew, Presidential Pardon and Isolate Colonial One. I'm tempted to pick Isolate Colonial One so I don't die.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 4)

« on: April 14, 2021, 12:36:07 pm »

Man, a lot to catch up on! And on my busiest meeting day, so while I read everything, I won't have time to process until later tonight.

But ADK and WCD both voting for the jury without ANY DISCUSSION? That as to be one of the more anti town things I've seen.

I can 1/2 understand ADK, being VP, maybe??

But there is NO reason for WCD to vote there so early that is defensible.

Vote: WCD

I'll have to further process to see if I think that's actually the best place for my vote, but it's early in the day, no other votes, so I at least need this to be a sign how upset I am at this...

Hi scum! So who's your scumbuddies? I was thinking Didds, but I guess I was wrong?

Which of those statements do you actually believe? I guess the first one's true?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 3)

« on: April 14, 2021, 11:22:59 am »

Now that I am dead, ADK has no reason to play for town, the cylon testing machine doesn't work, and I don't get information which I presume was going to get better over time. We also trigger a turning point which I presume is pro-scum.

Scum team is ash, jack and robz, I'm not even kidding.

for the cylon power I picked cylon and then human, so from my perspective I don't know if the tests were accurate or the other person picked the same thing as me. that's why I was against ash killing himself all of this game.

Why not vote one of the three players you claim is the mafia team?  You seemed so sure here, and yet you vote scola?

Nothing short of a mod-confirmation of your alignment will make me believe anything you say.

The information I learned at night contradicts this.

If the jury had brigged you, we would have had a turning point.

More points against the mafia jury.  I mean, zero discussion.

What would be the point of the jury if it's not random?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 4)

« on: April 14, 2021, 11:21:00 am »

Now I'm in a conundrum, as MiX is clearly my top mafia read, but I definitely don't want ADK to survive any longer AND get presidential powers if we take out MiX.

Does anyone have a useful day power that could remove a player?

So you think I faked all that twylight talk just in case there was an unknown power that made me not flip? Why would I say ADK is third-party before I die if we're both scum? WIFOM exists, but doesn't that put ADK in a worse position, potentially getting exiled just for not being town?

I think you faked all of that because you knew you would not flip from the very beginning.  It was your own power, or ADK's power, or your faction's power.

Essentially, it was all planned in case you were the exile, knowing you could plant all sorts of seeds of doubt and misinformation.

Isn't it clearly the turning point for the president to be brigged? It's possible scum knew of this beforehand, but...

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 4)

« on: April 14, 2021, 11:15:39 am »

Now I'm in a conundrum, as MiX is clearly my top mafia read, but I definitely don't want ADK to survive any longer AND get presidential powers if we take out MiX.

Does anyone have a useful day power that could remove a player?

So you think I faked all that twylight talk just in case there was an unknown power that made me not flip? Why would I say ADK is third-party before I die if we're both scum? WIFOM exists, but doesn't that put ADK in a worse position, potentially getting exiled just for not being town?

Also noted that Swowl was that Boomer I asked about.  Turned out to be town, so what do I know?

If anything, that makes me more likely to be mafia.

It's so weird, Swowl was the one that asked Awaclus if he was Boomer...

I agree with that statement, even from your perspective you're more likely to be scum now. It's a very weird game.

Oh, by the way, I guess Awaclus flipping town did this already, but alignment changes are essentially confirmed to exist.

Although, I think you are correct that we need an exile

vote: Jack

Oh hey I can vote now!

Vote: scola

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 4)

« on: April 14, 2021, 11:04:50 am »

The fact that the two voting members of the jury share a QT at night just makes it even more suspicious.

Do you mean that me and ADK have a QT?

Were you a member of the jury?

No, I did not mean you and ADK.

Then, how do you know that?

I'm literally not allowed to say.  Like, posting restriction style.

Is it related to the power you didn't claim?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 4)

« on: April 14, 2021, 11:02:50 am »

The fact that the two voting members of the jury share a QT at night just makes it even more suspicious.

Do you mean that me and ADK have a QT?

Were you a member of the jury?

No, I did not mean you and ADK.

Then, how do you know that?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 4)

« on: April 14, 2021, 10:59:05 am »

That was absolutely the most non-town thing I've ever seen.

I mean, I guess a "random" jury could have ended up there.  But then again, they didn't ask or allow for discussion.

The fact that the two voting members of the jury share a QT at night just makes it even more suspicious.

And ADK already claimed non-town.

Do you mean that me and ADK have a QT?

MiX, ADK, and WCD may not all be the same alignment, but they definitely are not town-aligned.

Yes, I agree that ADK isn't town.

I mean, we're basically looking at a town loss here.  Given we're working with a series, it could be our best interests to end the game quickly and move on to season 2.

I'm town though, so we can still win.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 3)

« on: April 14, 2021, 09:09:38 am »

My first power is that I learn random (although it says it depends on the current game state) things passively, I learned that a human aligned can turn cylon aligned (which confirms Awaclus' story) , and I learned what the turning point for military being president without losing their powers is (they lose the order deck and gain day powers, this will be public information once it happens, so I don't think it's relevant. I'll say it if you ask for it though.)

My other power is that I control the cylon testing machine. I can either choose "human" or "cylon", and if all players with this ability chose the same, the result of the testing will be this (so, if all players that have this power choose "human", and a cylon goes to test, it comes out as human), otherwise, the test is accurate. I have currently picked cylon, and then human, so from my perspective it's arbitrary, since I don't know the other person's choices. (I then couldn't pick, since I cannot do any actions).

My personal goal is living at the end of the game.

ADK is a third-party.

Edit By Way Of Posting Outside Of Twylight With More Time To Think About Grammar. (I also added new info that I said in the previous post).

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 4)

« on: April 14, 2021, 09:04:12 am »

Oh boy...what an interesting situation I am in.

Well. As you saw, I explained why I was acting the way I did, and what I thought of everything. Some posts have quite literally broken grammar and words in general as I was in a hurry, so please, ask any questions you may have.

My new piece of information will be posted shortly, as more people get to the thread.

Jack or Robz (or both) are civilians: this is what we learned with the civilian jurisdiction.

I couldn't pick anything for the cylon tester, so it's basically broken today. Unless there's 2 other people managing it (so 3 in total), which I highly doubt, but is possible.

So! What do we do now? Please ask me anything, aside from a select few things, I am an open book from now on.

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Forum Games / Re: RMM ??: Stargate Mafia (Gauging Interest Phase)

« on: April 13, 2021, 10:04:59 am »

I'm interested!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 3)

« on: April 12, 2021, 08:35:06 am »

I wonder if there's twylight: we've never exiled before.

I also hope Space was playing me, or that someone was fakeclaiming military for some reason.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 3)

« on: April 12, 2021, 08:33:21 am »

Now that I am dead, ADK has no reason to play for town, the cylon testing machine doesn't work, and I don't get information which I presume was going to get better over time. We also trigger a turning point which I presume is pro-scum.

Scum team is ash, jack and robz, I'm not even kidding.

for the cylon power I picked cylon and then human, so from my perspective I don't know if the tests were accurate or the other person picked the same thing as me. that's why I was against ash killing himself all of this game.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 3)

« on: April 12, 2021, 08:31:22 am »

ADK can deflect people, they picked me and someone N1, then swowl and scola N2.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 3)

« on: April 12, 2021, 08:30:46 am »

I'm gaius baltar, and you have killed the person that God was personally controlling to make humans win. we are going to lose very horribly.

ADK's win condition is a secret.

Any questions?