*Edit* Looks like it was already updated. Would be nice if the OP included both versions, because otherwise it makes the comments confusing.
Spice of Life needs to be restricted to Kingdom piles to prevent pins in junking-heavy Kingdoms without trashers.
Store looks like a worse Save. There are few Actions which you want to keep in nirvana for more than one turn. Edge cases like Sea Hag in Kingdoms without trashers or ultra-consistency via paying $2 to set aside a splitter for more than one turn to become super-consistent are simply too borderline.
Import is basically just League of Inventors, but less interesting.
Money Changer ist crazily overpowered. Coins into Coffers only works with worse rates or some other downsides.
Patronage on any cantrip does not make you want to end the game.
Interesting set of cards....I just have a few off-the-cuff comments based on initial impressions (playtesting might yield different results):
Penal Colony
I'm not sure making Estates worthless really adds much to the game other than providing a slight disincentive for rushes. I think Metropole adds a bit more depth than this.
Ekklesia
This is overpowered. Even if all it did were Exile, it's already much better than Cathedral. The option to gain a card to hand from your Exile mat makes it even better.
College
This is useful but it seems overpriced relative to other $5-cost projects. If you can get to the point where you are drawing your whole deck anyway, it's much less helpful.
Extension
I'm curious as to why you prefer to make it vulnerable to hand size attacks rather than draw at the start of your turn.
Letters Patent / Tax Collector
I'm also curious how this would play out. You can't really afford to let your opponent keep Tax Collector for several turns, but since it only triggers at the start of their turn you could probably afford to let them have it for one turn. If it ends up going back and forth between players throughout the game, then it's effectively like players had their -1 Coin token each turn. I'm not sure it would make the game more fun or interesting.
I imagine it would be less enticing in multiplayer games.
Way of the Mongrel
This is definitely more powerful than the official Ways. You essentially have the choice between playing your $5+ cost cards normally or as a Band of Misfits. It does encourage having higher cost Action cards in your deck, whereas with other Ways it's often good to spam cheap Actions. What is the reason for the "non-Duration" limitation?
All your Base
Seems like games with this and Mountebank (or even other cursers) would be pretty fast. One potential concern could be games with Pirate Ship and no other Action-based economy, where there could be scenarios where you wreck your opponents' economy and there aren't enough Treasures in the Supply. I don't think it's likely to occur in a 2-player game, but could happen in multiplayer games.
How would this work with Run on the Bank?
Run on the Bank
Seems like an interesting idea, but my main criticism would be that it makes several existing cards and some Events useless (e.g. Bandit, Soothsayer, Explorer, Enclave, Reap, etc)
Does Gold count as an empty pile? I think a rule clarification would be needed.
Way of the Gecko is strictly better than Way of the Pig (as you can always choose to gain the returned card itself). It also seems very strong compared to Butterfly, and turns Peddlers into one-shot cantrip Province gainers. I think I'd drop one of the two vanilla bonuses...
Hospital would interact nicely with cost reduction, too, since that would make it easy to get actually useful cards at $0. And since it's on gain and not on buy, it would make most junking attacks rather less useful, as you'd also be handing out VP tokens until they're gone with every play
Extension seems overpriced to me, especially since there's no stacking as with Hireling. It's essentially equivalent to holding the Flag, except, of course, that you can't lose it. But that still doesn't seem to me to be worth paying that much
Way of the Ram would make cost-reduction weird. I do wonder how it would interact with things like Highway. Highway normally costs $5, but once it's in play it costs $4. So, does the while-in-play happen before the Way, or after? That is, does Highway become +$3 (assuming no other cost-reduction in play) from its original price of $5, or $2 from its new price of $4?
Piggy Bank ($1 Event)
Once per turn: +1 Buy, +1 Coffers.
IOU ($1 Event)
Once per turn: +1 Buy, +1 Villager
Grand Duchy ($8 Event)
Gain a Duchy and 3 VP tokens.
Sabbatical (8 Debt Event)
Once per game: nobody (including you) can buy any card until the start of your next turn.
Metropole (Landmark)
When scoring, every Victory card is worth 1VP more.
Penal Colony (Landmark)
When scoring, every Victory card is worth 1VP less (but not less than 0).
Hospital (Landmark)
When you gain a card in one of your turns whose cost in $ is $0, take 2VP from here.
Setup: Put 6VP here per player.
Capitol (Landmark)
When scoring, 2VP per set you have of Action-Treasure-Victory cards. (Cards with multiple types can fulfill more than one role in a set.)
Merchant Bank ($4 Project)
Your Coppers now produce +1 Coffers instead of $1.
College ($4 Project)
At the start of your clean-up phase, you may put your deck in your discard pile.
Ekklesia ($4 Project)
At the start of your turn, choose one: Exile a card from your hand; or discard a card you have in Exile.
Extension ($6 & 6 Debt Project)
When you draw a new hand during clean-up, draw an extra card.
Letters Patent ($1 Event)
+1 Buy. Take the Tax Collector.
Tax Collector (Artifact)
At the start of your turn, +1 Coffers.
Way of the Ram (Way)
+$1 for every $2 this card costs, rounded up.
Way of the Mongrel (Way)
Play a non-Command Action card from the Supply that costs less than this, leaving it there.
Way of the Bloodhound (Way)
You may discard a non-Victory card from your hand. If you do, play the set aside Attack, leaving it there.
Setup: Set aside an unused Attack card costing $3 or $4.
Way of the Gecko (Way)
+1 Action
Return this to its pile to gain a card costing the same as it.
Five-Four (Edict)
Replace two of your starting Estates with Coppers.
Run on the Bank (Edict)
Remove the Gold pile from the game. (It doesn't count as an empty pile.)
What's the Rush (Edict)
During clean-up, players must keep one card in their hand. If they did, they draw one fewer card for their next hand.
All Your Base (Edict)
Start the game with just 10 cards in the Curse, Copper, Silver and Gold piles.
Hopefully you find my comments constructive.
I just realized something. Even if it isn't in print anymore, isn't it bad to have a card type share a name with a card? Specifically Adventurer in this case.
Also, Quest is already in use.
Well first off great mockups! I find myself coming back to this thread just to admire the style and artwork. But thankfully this also seems to have a lot else going for it. I won't cover everything here, but I figure starting with the Adventurers and Quest seems like a good place.Thanks for the feedback! (also I really like your cards)
Cleric: The on-play seems rather weak and unnecessarily restrictive. It's a terminal, stop card with no other functionality besides trashing Curses. Beyond that, when played you could end up skipping a lot of good cards. I'm sure this would work fine as a name a card to trash type deal. In addition I think the other revealed cards could go back on top in any order.It may be a bit weak, though it does a tiny bit more than trash Curses: it also cycles and can trigger on-discard reactions. I'm worried about making it too good at trashing curses, which could mean people don't buy cursers as a result, but I might try buffing it when I try it out.
Since we're all brainstorming, here are some random ideas:Nice suggestions.
(1) An Adventurer that can steal other Adventurers if they are still on an Adventurer mat.
(2) Adventurers that put themselves back on the Adventurer mat and thus need to satisfy the on-call each time.
(3) Adventurers that start in a common Adventurers mat and thus players can gain multiples of them if fast enough.
Quests: Really interesting, but I think these are way too swingy. You could specifically hinder yourself by building a deck to specifically satisfy say gaining 4 cards in one turn for Dragon Heist only to be beaten to it by one turn. Now your deck is shot and your opponent has +5 Coffers. I think the game is effectively over at that point. This will not always be the case, but I think this likely doesn't work most games.Great idea! I briefly toyed with the idea of different (possibly private) Quests for different people, almost like Ticket To Ride, but decided that would be equally swingy. Even just having a runner-up prize would probably be enough. One practical issue though might be having enough token cubes to go round (though the Gears already requires 4 per player).
I like the idea of being rewarded for being first, but how about some runner up prizes? You could have something like:
"Reward: +5 Coffers then -2 Coffers per token on here. Place your token here."
Tokens being something like the Project cubes. Players could only put one token/cube on a Quest. This doesn't work for things like Ruined Crypt, but I'm sure there are creative ways to scale that.
Ultimately I think this is looking really good. I may be able to help with playtesting. I assume your thinking about using Tabletop simulator?I was actually planning a combination of real-life testing of a few cards using blanks/spares, combined with using my homespun (but undistributable, for copyright reasons) text-based Dominion implementation. I hadn't actually heard of Tabletop Simulator before! Checking out YouTube videos now. Also thanks for the Dragonfire recommendation!
Also, on a somewhat unrelated note, there is a D&D deckbuilder called Dragonfire that is pretty fun. It's not heavy on the deckbuilding, but has certain elements of it.
Dark Priest, like Tunnel, relies on another discarder. Fortunately Cleric is one such discarder (and a particularly effective one in the absence of curses).
Cleric doesn't discard from play, and Dark Priest specifically says that it has to be discarded from play, which is impossible as no official card and none of your cards discard from play. I assume Dark Priest's extra effect is supposed to trigger just when it's discarded in general. Either way, it should be a Reaction card; look at Faithful Hound and the aforementioned Tunnel.
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