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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 16, 2020, 12:53:50 am »
We need a plan.  If Joseph gets all of the owl pieces and leaves, we're done for.  How can we do this?

Yeah, I'm concerned the plan specified below:

Partners, I think that you should do the plan tonight that I suggested doing last night.

is to get Joseph all the pieces of the owl.

So is there a way for both Joseph and town to win at this point?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 16, 2020, 12:36:05 am »
I think mail-mi and faust, but less sure about those.  Faust still hasn't explained why he posted items he wanted D1, and since skip/mail-mi are now basically confirmed to be town vs scum, it makes faust vs LaLight more likely to be town vs scum as well.

why mail-mi over skip? I've been thinking it's been skip, but not nearly as sure anymore.

I do think the extra vote after I hammered is suspiciously trying to get town cred.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 16, 2020, 12:34:26 am »
Oh fudge. Standby.
Does this mean faust does indeed have the notebook?
I do. It appears that joth was indeed telling the truth.

There's this. ^^^ for faust.

Also, in case we were doubting joseph, joth is seemingly confirming him as not scum, too.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 16, 2020, 12:25:38 am »
sudgy, who do you think his partners are?

Might as well discuss now, since I'm assuming either you or I are killed tonight.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 16, 2020, 12:19:39 am »
huh, I was typing something else, actually hoping to hold off on joth vote (waiting for eevee clarification).

But that's sounds like a confession, eh? Luckily, I'm awake and joseph's not.

Vote: joth

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 15, 2020, 10:55:30 pm »
I have a couple of thoughts, but I don't think joth is quite as scum as everyone is saying. I'm not going to say them out loud because if he is scum I don't want to give him any fakeclaim ideas.

Meanwhile, to me, skip is 100% scum at this point, we should have lynched him d1.

I've tried for a skip vote every day, man.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 15, 2020, 10:44:29 pm »
Once eevee confirms he had both pieces when he investigated N2, I think it will be safe to lynch joth (and will throw the hammer). But I'd really like to confirm we're understanding that key sentence correctly before we do.

So an unvote now, until we get this clarification would go a long way.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 15, 2020, 10:40:17 pm »
I'd also like us to question eevee a little more.

Can you explain this sentence more clearly:

N2 investigated Joth, found out he had the torso and know has the wings

I get the type is "now" instead of "know", but am still unclear. Are you saying you investigated joth N2 and were told he had told he had two pieces, the torso and the wings? I'm trying to understand why the "now" at all, were you told he had just acquired that piece, then? (i.e. he had torso N1, then acquired (presumable via stealing) the wings N2)?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 15, 2020, 10:36:42 pm »
OK, can someone unvote? We definitely need to hear from joth before lynching.

It doesn't work for him to have stolen the rope N1. Because on N2 de definitely gave the codebook to MiX on N2. He couldn't have also given the rope to a scum sailor.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 15, 2020, 08:16:50 pm »
Also, I'll want to reread, but let's say joth is theif, which seems possible). If he stole rope N1, how could he give both that to scum sailor and a 2nd item to mix? (do I remember correctly, that he gave mix one of the codebook / notebook - I'm pretty sure he did)

Oh wait, maybe we're saying joth stole owl piece, and other scum stole rope. (both were stolen N1? like I said I need to reread; am completely typing stream of conscious without verifying my fact)

OK, really going off to watch show now - just wanted this one more post as I realize some my assertions could be wrong and so you know that I haven't actually yet reread before typing any of this - apologies for the noise.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 15, 2020, 08:08:08 pm »
Someone can feel free to hammer if they want before I get to it, of course.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 15, 2020, 08:07:44 pm »
fyi, intent to hammer, after I reread, which will happen some time later tonight after finish watching Upload episode 2.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 15, 2020, 08:06:57 pm »
Also, I'll want to reread, but let's say joth is theif, which seems possible). If he stole rope N1, how could he give both that to scum sailor and a 2nd item to mix? (do I remember correctly, that he gave mix one of the codebook / notebook - I'm pretty sure he did)

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 15, 2020, 08:03:41 pm »
I'll likely vote joth, but want to reread first. If joth is scum, does that make faust suspicious too? joth gave him codebook and notebook (via Mix) and then faust says what joth says is true.

I'm thinking scum could be joth, faust, and skip.

I prefer skip to mail-mil because mail-mi claimed a sailor role with details first, then skip said "me too". If mail-mi were lying what are the chances he guessed exactly skip's role. Though I guess the role could be the same, just different factions.

OK, so I'll need to think which of those two.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 15, 2020, 02:48:08 pm »
Sorry, didn't know what else to do with it. No one else seemed to need to, and I currently town read you.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« on: May 15, 2020, 01:45:51 pm »
Okay so if you read the GT information, it has something weird. I'm the only person with that weird thing. Why.

This setup makes no sense.

You are a Generous Townie. You have no special powers. Your weapon is your vote. At night, if you have at least one item, you must give at least one item to another player (unless this is overwritten by the item description.)

I'm assuming MiX was talking about what I bolded in this quote.  He also said he had a lot of power.  Joseph, I'm assuming the item MiX needed had to do with the item he had, which had nothing to do with his role.  Does the item you had seem to be missing a part?

Yes, this is also what I assumed. It must be our third multi-parter object. The owl; codebook / notebook, and this.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 15, 2020, 01:33:35 pm »
From the setup:

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Passing items will occur second-to-last in the night action resolution order, before only nightkills.

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You also could simply have 0 cards in your deck/discard when you play Hunting Lodge instead of having the -1 card token. Of course this would mean that the "draw 5 cards" would end up doing nothing, but the same question still exists, do you follow the instruction of "draw 5 cards" if you play Hunting Lodge as the last card in your hand/deck?

Which brings me to a related question... if your deck+discard is empty, but has the -1 card token on it, do you get rid of the token if you get a +1 card? Does it count as "the next time you would draw a card" if your deck+discard is empty?


The wiki (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Adventures_tokens) does say:

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The –1 Card token is removed when you try to draw a card, even if your deck and discard pile are empty.

And it makes sense, since the would first take the token before shuffling your discard (in the case reshuffling zero cards).


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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: faust's setup rerun
« on: May 14, 2020, 01:37:43 pm »
Well, votes are
Faust 9++: 5
Blink: 1
No pref / undecided: 3


faust 9++ is for 12, so room for 3 more!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: faust's setup rerun
« on: May 14, 2020, 12:18:08 pm »
/in I'll review later, as well, so for now - no preference

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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« on: May 14, 2020, 01:58:21 am »
The buys would come from Squire before the Comptrollers (multiple Comptrollers just get the cost down of Expedition to $0).

1 Buy +2 Buys (from Squire) +2 (from the first Comptroller) = 5 buys

* obviously would have to first play a bunch of villages first, but with 15 card hands, probably not so hard, once you get this done the first time.

I do agree this would be an issue - when I designed a cost reducer for Events, it was a Project so that they could at most be $1 less.

[Edits: this is what I get for posting late at night - wrote Scout instead of Squire, and ignored the fact that the cost reduction happens when you call them, so you wouldn't necessarily need all the villages]

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Codenames IX
« on: May 13, 2020, 06:57:49 pm »
Rabbit is red.
Dog is red.

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Codenames IX
« on: May 13, 2020, 02:52:36 pm »
Animal: 3

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Codenames IX
« on: May 13, 2020, 02:50:03 pm »
Plot is neutral.

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Codenames IX
« on: May 13, 2020, 12:38:29 pm »
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