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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 27, 2020, 11:46:01 am »

Anyway, my non-dayvig power lets me pick someone, and if they learn a Yes/No result, I learn it instead. I picked faust N1 and got nothing, then picked scola N2 and got Yes/No. One of the two.

And it's really good at catching scum if they don't know the result of their actions! So I don't wanna say it until I'm positive exactly what action I stole.

OH, so here you are saying you only got 1 response, but aren't telling us if it is "yes" or "no". I thought you meant you got a "yes" and a "no".

Do you also find out who it applies to?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 27, 2020, 11:05:54 am »

Lightning rod wouldn't work because I would have gotten yes results.

But, this makes me think: MiX you say you receive the results "instead". What does that mean? If you do this to me, what results would I get instead?

I presumed you wouldn't get one of them. That's why I was asking for who was roleblocked.

What do you mean by "one of them"?

Can you check with mod? I ask because power specifically points out I'd get no result , but does not say the same thing for the yes/no part. Is it possible you replace by answers with no/no?

(that seems weird to me)

also, this seems to always roleblock then, because it always blocks AND it gives you info. Which is more powerful than faust's blocking.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 27, 2020, 10:57:04 am »

Lightning rod wouldn't work because I would have gotten yes results.

But, this makes me think: MiX you say you receive the results "instead". What does that mean? If you do this to me, what results would I get instead?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 26, 2020, 06:05:30 pm »

Once thing I've just realized, there's more details about MiX's role blocking he's not telling us - every other power is "modified" like my Watcher, Faust's roleblocker, so I'm sure there's something else there.

Care to share?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 26, 2020, 05:26:31 pm »

Not saying yet, I think you did, just pointing out that for sure you could have.

Also, I reread maintenance in the OP; it is a daytime ability.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 26, 2020, 05:22:15 pm »

You could have targeted him with the NK...

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 26, 2020, 01:12:02 pm »

OK, I'm ready for a more complete claim.

I am a modified Watcher. Each Night I can watch someone and get a count of how many people targeted them. Additionally I can try to identify up to 2 people and get a yes/no response if they were part of that count.

N1, I was blocked.
N2, faust was targeted by 4 people. One was me, so 3 others.

Which is why I'm been asking MiX about faust being doctored. Since a reasonable explanation for 2 of those others were NK and doctor.

Didds did not target faust. Neither did mail-mi.

Assuming my above hypothesis, mail-mi is either not scum, or at least not the only scum left.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 26, 2020, 01:07:33 pm »

I'm Teddy Flood.

My second power is called Massacre and it lets me, once per game, during the day but only early in the day, kill everyone who has already been killed. Now that I see how this game is going I see how this could be useful for town. It does not guarantee that they can't be rezzed again. Also, I assume if I used it now it would affect myself, which doesn't mean I won't do it but I have to be pretty darn sure it will win us the game.

That's a pretty cool power.

Did you tell us your first power? (probably) If so, can you remind me, so I don't have to go find it?

He knows that Didds picked him? Or something?

Ah, right, I remember that now. Vaguely.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 26, 2020, 11:29:18 am »

• MiX why did you think faust was doctored?

- It made sense when I thought Didds was town.

Would you please elaborate? I get the no NK could mean someone doctored, sure. But why faust specifically? Why not you or me or anyone else?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 26, 2020, 11:27:09 am »

I'm Teddy Flood.

My second power is called Massacre and it lets me, once per game, during the day but only early in the day, kill everyone who has already been killed. Now that I see how this game is going I see how this could be useful for town. It does not guarantee that they can't be rezzed again. Also, I assume if I used it now it would affect myself, which doesn't mean I won't do it but I have to be pretty darn sure it will win us the game.

That's a pretty cool power.

Did you tell us your first power? (probably) If so, can you remind me, so I don't have to go find it?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 26, 2020, 11:19:54 am »

Some things I'd like to know:

• more about mail-mi / didds - he conveniently posted a few things last night, yet ignored questions around this
• who was roleblocked last night - MiX claims to have role blocked me, but deflected by didds, so who was roleblocked instead?
• MiX why did you think faust was doctored?
• related, why was there no NK last night?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 25, 2020, 09:11:26 pm »

I think I see what's happening now...

Was anyone roleblocked last night?

Faust claims he roleblocked me, but I can neither confirm nor deny this as I did not use any abilities. If I had used my ability and gotten roleblocked, I would have known something unusual was up.

Why not use ability?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 25, 2020, 07:37:39 pm »

i still don't understand mail-mi/joth discrepancy

Right. Plus there's Didds saying that mail-mi can vouch for her. So I'd like to her more from him and what he communicated to Didds via mod.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 25, 2020, 06:43:59 pm »

I confirmed with mod that if Didds had redirected from faust to awaclus, I would have received a response on Didds. I did not, therefore, something is not right.

Seems reasonable to think that she redirected MiX, since he claims to have roleblocked me, and clearly that did not happen.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 25, 2020, 06:01:27 pm »

OK, so here's my claim:

I watched faust last night; Didds did not target him.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 25, 2020, 05:26:25 pm »

It seems we have a caught scum. Even so, I think at this junction it is important that I claim.

I'm a modified Roleblocker. I can target a player and block all actions they take that target a subset of player that I name.

Night 1 I blocked scolapasta from targeting LaLight, MiX, WCD.
Night 2 I blocked Awaclus from targeting joth, LaLight, MiX, Swowl and me.

I have another ability that I did not use yet.

Ah, somehow I completely missed this post.

N1 checks out, I had targeted LL.

How many can you include in the subset?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 25, 2020, 04:07:55 pm »

Stop making me have to go back and hunt old discrepancies:

let me softclaim smth

I can see the name and the effect of the ability of a person. To find out what it is I choose a person and a night. If a person used this ability that night i get the result, basically "yes". than, during the day I can guess who the person is and if I guess right, I get to know the effect and the name of the ability.

So I got the result that joth didn't use the ability N1, but then I guessed joth and got it right. Does this make sense?

LL wouldn’t he have used it on N2 to find out what happened to him on N1?

He can't use it N2. He was dead.

LL could also tell us if our powers are on his list of the possible powers.

I presume he doesn't know the names...?

i don't

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 25, 2020, 03:54:27 pm »

So, I have this VERY complicated ability.

There are 7 powers in the game I am looking for. Every Day I can guess a person and if they have the power #1, it will be revealed to me. Then I'll be looking for power #2. I can only guess once, unless I save a host from lynching, then as long as they live I will have an additional guess. I also "saved" ADK, so if they come back, I'll have two guesses.

At night I can visit 2 people, name a night, and see if they targeted anyone with the power I seek. I get a "yes" or "no" for each one of my targets. And in the end of the night Arch tells me how many times I targeted a person with the power I am looking for.

This Night, I chose joth and ADK and got No both times and the info that I have targeted the person I need once. So at the start of the day I guessed joth and was right. He has a power that CAN tell him if he was targeted for a kill, but he didn't use it Night 1, that's what I have.

What does it mean that you saved ADK? When you first explained your power in #304, you said that the host you saved would stay alive and the person you chose would be exiled. But that is not what happened.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 25, 2020, 03:36:26 pm »

i.e. I want to believe you, but my results say otherwise.

I will claim something (but not all) in a few.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 25, 2020, 03:35:47 pm »

Well, then if you were redirected*, Didds is lying.

* so you roleblocked? Did you roleblock be two nights in a row?

My roleblock failed N1, if that's what you're asking.

PPE: Towny powers, for sure. Calling it "deflection" means you're definitley a redirector, at least.

"be" should have been "me". Since you are a roleblocker, and I got roleblocked N1, was wondering if it was you. Sounds like it wasn't meaning there's another roleblocker out there.

Didds, if you got roleblocked, would you know?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 25, 2020, 03:29:54 pm »

Well, then if you were redirected*, Didds is lying.

* so you roleblocked? Did you roleblock be two nights in a row?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 25, 2020, 03:26:46 pm »

Okay, I might've gotten redirected, so let's take it from the top.

Did every ability of yours work perfectly, from your point of view?

It's impossible to be certain, but from my point of view, I had no reason to doubt the results of my abilities, until you said that you did something to me. Hence why I was willing to come out so definitively against Didds' claim.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 25, 2020, 03:20:36 pm »

I asked for you to claim what you did way before! I'm not answering before you do.

Yeah, but you did something to me. I did not target you. I'd like to understand how what you did affected what I did before I claim more.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 25, 2020, 03:19:48 pm »

I’m 100% telling the truth.

I have nothing to backpedal from.

I’ma town host, though, so we can exile me without a real loss. Nothing in the way of information from my flip though.

Mail-mi has communicated with me about something through arch. He can likely vouch for my town/host-ness.

Vote: Scola

If what I did last night worked correctly, you cannot be telling the truth.

Now, of course, it sounds like MiX is claiming he did something to me that would make what I did not work correctly? Waiting to hear from him more. But if that is true, then there is an explanation for you telling the truth and why I thought you were not.

As a host, do you have maintenance then? (are we at the point where we should assume all host have maintenance?) What's your character name?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 3)

« on: July 25, 2020, 03:14:41 pm »

I'm all in on the "Didds is scum" wagon, but why is she caught?

I read scolapasta as saying he knows that she is lying.

But that's impossible, I specifically made it so that he can't know that...

What did you do to me?