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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)

« on: August 14, 2020, 11:28:00 am »

Game would NOT end just because all town hosts are dead, since they can be rezzed.

i.e. game state is 3 alive town humans. Game does not end, they rez a host, if town, game ends, town wins, if scu, game not over. (but humans don't know if they rezzed a scum host or if actually one of them is actually scum).

Either way, everyone has opined for me to reveal. I'm still not convinced that is is the best move, but I'm ok with trusting there's something I'm not realizing. Also I do see some merit.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)

« on: August 14, 2020, 10:53:22 am »

He has to be a host, none of his assumptions make sense otherwise.

I'll post the question to you too, why not?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)

« on: August 14, 2020, 10:52:58 am »

Scola, why do you think either Mix or I are scum?

I'm pretty sure I've answered. I'm going on the hypothesis that all scum are hosts. So a) there need to be some more and b) you both seem keenly interested in learning my "humanity".

You can only reasonably hold this belief if you are a host, so I guess this is a claim?

Why? It may not be both MiX and Didds - or maybe it's not ADK.

But why not 4 scum hosts?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)

« on: August 14, 2020, 10:52:09 am »

I'm also interested in your humanity by the way.

OK, let's hear from the other humans too.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)

« on: August 14, 2020, 10:46:10 am »

Scola, why do you think either Mix or I are scum?

I'm pretty sure I've answered. I'm going on the hypothesis that all scum are hosts. So a) there need to be some more and b) you both seem keenly interested in learning my "humanity".

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)

« on: August 14, 2020, 10:41:47 am »

At least 1 of MiX and Didds is scum. I think maybe both.

Do you think there is any dead scum besides joth?

ADK? I see it plausible that there could be 4 scum, especially since scum host seem unable to kill humans, so you'd have to buff them somehow.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)

« on: August 14, 2020, 10:33:03 am »

Scola, we’re still waiting for the “later”

Yeah, after posting my "spoiler" I realized that was the gist of what I wanted to say.

At least 1 of MiX and Didds is scum. I think maybe both.

I am not yet convinced there are scum humans. Though I still don't see how joth expects to get rezzed then. Maybe a host dying twice is some kind of trigger for something to happen? I don't know.

MiX seems to really want to know if I am human/host and is threatening to vig me if I don't reveal.  This seems very boldly scummy to me.

I honestly think it is better for town right now that I don't reveal. (except for MiX's threat, which actually increases my belief)

I want to hear from the three known humans if they think I should reveal. As there is at least 1 town in them (if not all 3), that will help me understand if other town think there's a reason for me to reveal.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M131: COVID-19 Mafia

« on: August 13, 2020, 02:10:43 pm »

/intern

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)

« on: August 13, 2020, 01:59:46 pm »

Spoiler: I'm not convinced it is the right town move to reveal my "humanity". Now if everyone thinks it is, then that would clearly have to include town people, I would reconsider.

But for now, it seems mostly MiX and Didds, and I feel there's scum in at least one of them.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)

« on: August 13, 2020, 01:58:31 pm »

Do you all (USA located, of course) not work??

My more later will come when I have time to think through my thoughts and type a longer post. While working (at least on days with many meetings), I only have time to read and type these short ones.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)

« on: August 13, 2020, 12:11:24 pm »

I'll post more later.

But last night: watched Didds thinking if she is town host, they would try to NK her. (specifically lalight and faust). Got blocked, which faust has confirmed.

Why would you block my watching???

Because you're scum. Who do you suggest I should have blocked instead?

I'm not. Other than PoE, which doesn't seem as useful this game, why do you think this.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)

« on: August 13, 2020, 11:38:18 am »

I'll post more later.

But last night: watched Didds thinking if she is town host, they would try to NK her. (specifically lalight and faust). Got blocked, which faust has confirmed.

Why would you block my watching???

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)

« on: August 13, 2020, 02:22:12 am »

OMG. THIS GAME.

I couldn't sleep, trying to understand how either Dylan or Swowl made such a monumental error in claim vs counterclaim - and then it hit me:

What if scum didn't use all their points???

I just checked the setup, and this is what it says:

"The Villians are told which hero roles are in the game and have 24 hours to pick their own powers from their pool (no duplicates allowed).

It never specifically says they have to use up all their points.

Mod, do the villains have to spend all their ascension points??

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)

« on: August 13, 2020, 12:35:46 am »

Maybe this way, if there was a mistake,  the game won't be forfeit.

What do you mean?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)

« on: August 13, 2020, 12:25:26 am »

Woah! I go away for a little to watch Colbert and all hell breaks lose.

Let's start with a quick

Unvote

well I mean just vote me or dylan though. town wins or game is washed. no reason to beat around.

I hear ya, but wtf?? I mean if I have to pick one? I guess
Vote: Dylan

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)

« on: August 13, 2020, 12:20:18 am »

Woah! I go away for a little to watch Colbert and all hell breaks lose.

Let's start with a quick

Unvote

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)

« on: August 12, 2020, 11:36:17 pm »

Here we are D3, and MiX is going to escape exile yet again*... Sigh. MiX, you better be town!

* I'm going to move away from MiX for now, but I'm willing to come back. scum!Mix CANNOT win this game!

I'm still not convinced on Dylan - while it's a good case, I really don't see scum!Dylan hammering Robz there. I mean, maybe? But it still feels like the fatal flaw to the case.

So I think if I'm going for someone on the Robz wagon, I prefer:

Vote: faust

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)

« on: August 12, 2020, 11:27:29 pm »

Vote: Dylan

If mix is scum he practically deserves to win for this Oscar nominee performance.

AAACK! This, this is what scares me... I mean the case he makes is interesting. It will at least make me reconsider Dylan significantly more than I was before...

BUT this is also perfect scum!mix play - it even feels like he's taunting us during it:

Reads. Not scumreads. Reads. Dylan wanted out of my wagon to push a misexile (if you think you can push me for a misexile, look at this game, lol, not even framer kills me), and quite literally anything worked. Or, you know, any wagon, which Robz conveniently starts for him.

Note, he seems to have written this *before* I wrote:

I know this is a bad reason but part of my desire to exile MiX is because if he *is* scum and wins, we'll never live it down! (We'll have had him at X-1 for 2 days (X-2 on days 2), a guilty result and still he beats us??)

But it still fits.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)

« on: August 12, 2020, 11:19:00 pm »

How useful is it worth to speculate joth's self hammer? There has to be a reason, of course.

I presume there's a scum human alive and no I have no idea.

But you don't think human scum can kill humans?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)

« on: August 12, 2020, 10:39:11 pm »

How useful is it worth to speculate joth's self hammer? There has to be a reason, of course.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)

« on: August 12, 2020, 10:38:01 pm »

Didds, can you remind me what you did N1 to joth (in that you targeted him?)

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)

« on: August 12, 2020, 10:36:44 pm »

I'm on vacation now, which is why I am posting more.

I had a question for you scola - why did your hammer come at the -7 sec mark and not sooner?

That feels like ages ago. I think it was a combination of reasons:
•  DL was early afternoon and I usually have meetings around then (11-12, at least), so I got here when I could and was trying to catch up on all the action
• of the 3 D1 wagons my order of preference was Mix > chairs > joth
• eventually, the wagons dissipated with a flurry of joth votes (reading back, at:  12:27:17 (space),  12:27:34  (space), 12:28:11 (chairs)). At that point, it was joth or no exile, so after minimal internal debate, I decided to hammer
• I tried to vote earlier, but kept getting PPE*

* actually had joth been scum, I was ready to wag a FoS at Didds and Swowl for all their posts in the last minute; it felt like maybe they were trying to get to no exile.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)

« on: August 12, 2020, 10:16:53 pm »

I know this is a bad reason but part of my desire to exile MiX is because if he *is* scum and wins, we'll never live it down! (We'll have had him at X-1 for 2 days (X-2 on days 2), a guilty result and still he beats us??)

Seriously, though, if I had a better vote I would be ok with switching. I'm willing to hear MiX's case on Dylan, but currently don't want to exile. Galz and swowl seem town. I need to read a little more on EFHW, because she was lurking a lot earlier, but she has been posting more recently.

I would consider faust too. He was on Robz early, so I could see him seeing this as a harmless vote before he went to bed, before the wagon on Robz really built up with Swowl and Galz votes.

Then again, I think I suspect Mix and faust *every* game; it's clearly something about there style of play, and so that makes me doubt those reads.

(this is why I said earlier I felt we were grasping at straws)

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)

« on: August 12, 2020, 06:50:06 pm »

I agree I think joth is scum, I just don't consider that as outed.

Once reason for scum to kill you as scum is you get your 1 shot powers back. Especially if scum or scum hosts can't kill humans.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)

« on: August 12, 2020, 06:34:07 pm »

as usual, I will be here after my guess. Also yeah, I revived MiX.

Why?

Why not? I've been the second scum NK, and the first was just outed as scum.

How was the first outed?

And who cares if you'd be 2nd? Plus when you were killed joth (I'm assuming that's the first) had been revived.

* Who