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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 08, 2018, 07:45:50 pm »

So many cocktails...not thinking super clear. But it seems like Monday is not too close to deadline since DL is later Monday.

Sadz that weekends are LA for most.

No lynch sucks. Not gonna happen, amirite?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 08, 2018, 02:04:37 pm »
vote: westcoastdidds let people defend their own selves

Good point. I’m a team player and thinking town team comes easier to me, but the only way to know people is to hear them. Apologies.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 08, 2018, 12:58:02 pm »

In NM12, did he ever have votes in him? I don’t recall him being targeted at all so he never had to defend himself.

But not saying he’s not scum, just that this might be a new situation for him as opposed to last time.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 08, 2018, 11:14:43 am »
The thing I find a little unsettling about the Eddie wagon at the moment is that it mostly consists of the people I've been scumreading.
Chairs and hypercube, and then I've been on and off about Awaclus.

You know I can just imagine we have one coaching session going on where WestCoast and iguana are talking about cats... and another coaching session going on where hypercube and faust are talking about who to consider night-killing...

All this! This is my issue with the Eddie wagon as well. I didn’t find the doctor not a doctor particularly damning, although I can be convinced that he is scummy for other reasons in addition to that. But the Awa (who voted but didn’t say why) and Chairs votes, along with Hyper, are folks we haven’t heard much from. I’m also trusting LL when he says he has bad reads. A quick hammer would be super scummy, so I hope someone moves their vote for now.

Hyper’s experience with his coach matches mine. I’m voicing thoughts about my reads and iguana proves my thinking and process, and provides info about meta (is Awa always so cagey? Yes!) but isn’t telling me what he would do or what he thinks I should do, or how he reads the situation. Also, cats. And if Hyper hasn’t asked Faust about pets, he should. Awa’s tarantula preference is the most I’ve learned about him this game.

I’m interested to hear what Raptor and Chairs are thinking since they’ve been less engaged.

Also, I’m visiting friends in DC this weekend so I’ll be LA. Please don’t hammer until Monday!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 07, 2018, 10:44:19 pm »
Oh, counter-claim, right?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 07, 2018, 10:42:09 pm »

CC?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 07, 2018, 01:58:12 pm »

Regarding me buddying Thief, fair. I have a problem with that, I always need friends in these games, so I do that a lot as both town and scum. (More subjective facts, stop it, Eddie, surely you got something better...) Also ironic that I am concerned with WCD's friendship of me...


We all like Fang! He is chatty and funny. I’m friends with everyone, but buddies with no one. (Even the cat people.) I just didn’t find the Doctor doctor not a doctor exchange all that scummy. So,  no worries about me creeping on you.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 07, 2018, 12:52:48 pm »
So, that L-2.

I’m not reading Eddie as scummy.

But Hyper is making a different argument...that Eddie is a safer kill than other town folk.  Is that good enough? We still have lots of time.

I’m curious what others think...

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 07, 2018, 11:25:03 am »
I'll try to reread UncleEddie today.

I wonder if the people who have been scarce this week might be able to weigh in this weekend.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 07, 2018, 11:23:00 am »

Cats are fine, but I'm more of a tarantula person when it comes to pets and I'm not really even that much of a pet person in the first place (i.e. I don't have a tarantula).

Well, they are furry, I guess. So somewhat more snuggly than a fish.

LL,, you have an orange kitty, too!!  I love it!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 07, 2018, 08:59:19 am »
Awaclus, how do you feel about cats?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 07, 2018, 08:58:44 am »
Your cat work sounds cool too. Is it difficult to limit yourself to not having too many cats yourself?

I have an arrangement with my wife in which I will be allowed to take more cats if I buy a bigger house.

vote count please

That is an excellent arrangement. I figure if I ever lose my taste for cities and move to the country, I can get a barn and all the cats!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 07, 2018, 08:57:00 am »


Very unlikely that the scum is both me and chairs. The chances are 0%.

Why is that? Just because you are not scum?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 07, 2018, 07:51:23 am »
Iguanas are herbivorous, so I think it is unlikely that they like cats.

I don't think he eats them. But that is just a guess.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 07, 2018, 07:50:54 am »

Why did you change the stance on Hydrad? You called him helpful and townie as well for the doctors' plan

How is Eddie helpful?

I love cats too. I am working part time in cat caffee - the place where we take cats from shelters to get people to know them and then give them to people free of charge. I have 2 cats from it myself. So cat adorer detected!

A cat cafe! That is awesome! Those are just starting to be a thing here. One opened in Austin recently. My cats are orange boys...Scott and Brad. We are going out of town this weekend so they are currently pissed at us and sleeping just out of petting reach next to me on the couch.

I had forgotten that Hydrad had been helpful earlier. (It is still the wee hours of the morning here and the coffee is still brewing). I don't have a bad feeling about him, I just don't have much feeling about him at all.  Which means he hasn't been around much lately. So, I think my sense of helpfulness also includes engagement.

I keep waffling on Awaclus. He confuses me and seems so cagey. And I get that is how he plays, but I also am not sure how we are supposed to work together with that communication style.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 07, 2018, 07:42:13 am »
But while we're on the subject of animals...
DS can I sheep you please (not right now though)
sheep?

Follow like a sheep. This is helpful for the words http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=16266.0

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 07, 2018, 07:03:39 am »
what about if you were scum along with another newbie?

You caught a scumslip I was talking about!
I don't think there was a scumslip. Seemed like a very townie response to me.

Supertownie, that's me! So far my meta is that she is super townie.

Definitely not a scumslip. I hadn't thought much about if I had been scum and it had been with another newb that I might have still wanted a coach. That scenario (coach and partner) seems really complicated to me to manage (I am usually doing this on my phone so having many tabs open is hard). I have been a coach advocate since the idea was introduced. I was basing that desire off of the conversations the scum had in the previous game, which were really helpful for me to read in retrospect. As far as my coach, I like having a question-answerer and I am also liking getting to know someone in this community a little bit better without having to be suspicious of him. Iguanaiguana knows stuff, is awesome, and likes cats.

Awaclus....I can't say that I find him scummy one way or another, but I don't find him at all helpful. Which is not awesome. My vote is still on Chairs, based on his first post when he called us all scummy, which was sort of randomly assigned since it was really early on, but he has done nothing to cause me to move it. He is also not helpful. Not helpful is as close to scummy as it gets.

I find Swan helpful. LL somewhat helpful. Eddie and Fang helpful. That makes them townie for me.

Hyper, Raptor, and Hydrad....don't know.


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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 06, 2018, 05:08:50 pm »

And Chairs dropped in to say he mostly drops out...

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 06, 2018, 04:39:38 pm »

This post pings me as a potential scumslip... Can anyone see that?

Ah, I thought they had day chat. This is the level of my knowledge.... :/
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This is not really what I meant...
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Ah, sorry then. I don’t follow.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 06, 2018, 04:27:13 pm »
When I read the scum QT from my first game, Mcmc was doing lots of coaching kind of talk with  his scum partner. I thought that’s must have been helpful for the newb and kind of an advantage, so asked for a coach in this game.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 06, 2018, 04:22:40 pm »
Also, I wouldn’t need a coach at all if I was scum because I’d have a partner. In fact, that might be a reason to squint at the newbs who eschewed the opportunity.

WestCoast, are you saying that you would have chosen 'no coach' if you had been scum?

Correct. I don’t know what the point of a coach would be if I had a partner QT to ask questions or strategize. The whole point of me having a coach is not to big down the game with my questions that are basic for Mafia players.

This post pings me as a potential scumslip... Can anyone see that?

Ah, I thought they had day chat. This is the level of my knowledge.... :/


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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 06, 2018, 03:59:22 pm »
Also, I wouldn’t need a coach at all if I was scum because I’d have a partner. In fact, that might be a reason to squint at the newbs who eschewed the opportunity.

WestCoast, are you saying that you would have chosen 'no coach' if you had been scum?

Correct. I don’t know what the point of a coach would be if I had a partner QT to ask questions or strategize. The whole point of me having a coach is not to big down the game with my questions that are basic for Mafia players.

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/in

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 06, 2018, 09:31:44 am »
I can't say that I have much of a read on Awaclus at all. Mostly because of the non-response to L-1. It seems like some of the folks are relying on his playstyle, which he says is super laid back. So, it makes it even harder to get a read.

Thinking over plans and asking about them in a game with newcomers isn't scummy, its learning. When we played last, there was a lot more overt teaching from some of the vets. That is not happening here (which is fine) but our relative newness does mean that posts like Swan's and Hydrad's are super helpful for thinking about how a particular plan may actually play out. So I am reading all that as neutral.

My townie thoughts right now are Eddie, Fang, LL, and Hydrad.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 06, 2018, 09:25:14 am »
in case of Eddie it is a gut feel and not liking lying town in any way, WCD seems much more enthusiastical than I remember her to be and also she asked for a coach. Chairs is scummy for putting Awaclus on L-1 and disappearing. Also Raptor is lurking and this is his scum meta iirc

I am basically -always- going to disappear after I post, as my most-available times to post are right before bed and right before I leave for work. Case in point, I'm responding to what's happened while I was sleeping and will subsequently not be on for a big chunk of time. One of the reasons I play Mafia on f.ds is due to the longer cycles leading to my availability being less of an issue, and if you don't remember times when I've still been prodded / replaced for inactivity issues then we haven't played together enough.

I firmly believe putting Awaclus on L-1 was the right move and I suspect Awaclus would agree with me, actually - a big issue on D1 is generating meaningful interactions. We have 5 IRL days left of D1, and LOOK HOW MUCH CONTENT just got generated over that! We also didn't see a hammer, which if anybody other than you had posted before you did, would have made them feel Towny to me. The fact that you think putting someone at L-1 is scummy, however, makes me consider your response neutral (not scummy - I can see why you particularly, given your meta on this forum, would have felt like this was scummy, but you did just ruin a great opportunity for a newbie scum to stumble into an early hammer).

vote: uncleeurope for basically the same reason LaLight voted for him - not a fan of the not-Doctor claim, as much as I wouldn't be a fan of a Doctor claim here.

I am sincerely sorry, I know about your general availability. It is just putting people to L-1 is really dangerous. I don't know what good would derphammer of a newbie bring. I mean it worked in NM12, but it is not that guaranteed that both lynchee and hammerer are not town. I actually think we need to be more careful concerning this

WCD early hammered on D1 of NM12 and she was town. I know, this is a little different as practically everyone scumread Simon Jester back then, but still

That wasn't an early hammer really, it was < 8 hours before deadline iirc.

well, it was sudden

It was 5 hours before the deadline, and the deadline was going to be at 4 am Central Time, so I couldn't hang around.  In that moment, if I had voted for Phy, Simon (scum) would have hammered him.  Or I could hammer Simon. Or not vote, I guess....and hoped that the people on Phy (who had claimed a PR) would be awake to hammer Simon in the morning. It was way past my bedtime and I wanted to do right by the town. It didn't feel early to me!  But then again, it was my first game ever.

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