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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 17, 2018, 09:53:28 am »weird, right
fwiw I am almost 100% sure chairs is scum
Agreed. And also agreed with Hydrad or Eddie as the other.
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Agreed. And also agreed with Hydrad or Eddie as the other.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« on: September 17, 2018, 09:48:06 am »
Okay, Iguana...I am not crazy! I am not the lowest contributing member. You are outpacing everyone, but I am not at the bottom and I have a reasonable number of longer posts. I also think the high number of one and two line posts in this game make it especially hard for someone without much sense of history to take a position or get a read.
This is mostly, correct, I think. Through #320, starting when D1 flavor began, not counting mod posts.
50 posts, Iguanaiguana, 7 longer than 3 lines
29 posts, Silverspawn, 2 longer than 3 lines
26 posts, EFHW, 1 longer than 3 lines
18 posts, 2.71828..., 2 longer than 3 lines
16 posts, gkrieg, none longer than 3 lines
16 posts, Datswan, 5 longer than 3 lines
16 posts, Mogrim, 6 longer than 3 lines
15 posts, WCD, 6 longer than 3 lines
15 posts, Ashersky, 7 longer than 3 lines
14 posts, Space, 5 longer than 3 lines
13 posts, Hydrad, 2 longer than 3 lines
10 posts, chairs, 1 longer than 3 lines
9 posts, Awaclus, none longer than 3 lines
8 posts, Galz, 1 longer than 3 lines
130 posts have been only one line or less
57 have been 2 lines
24 have been 3 lines
45 have been longer than three lines
This is mostly, correct, I think. Through #320, starting when D1 flavor began, not counting mod posts.
50 posts, Iguanaiguana, 7 longer than 3 lines
29 posts, Silverspawn, 2 longer than 3 lines
26 posts, EFHW, 1 longer than 3 lines
18 posts, 2.71828..., 2 longer than 3 lines
16 posts, gkrieg, none longer than 3 lines
16 posts, Datswan, 5 longer than 3 lines
16 posts, Mogrim, 6 longer than 3 lines
15 posts, WCD, 6 longer than 3 lines
15 posts, Ashersky, 7 longer than 3 lines
14 posts, Space, 5 longer than 3 lines
13 posts, Hydrad, 2 longer than 3 lines
10 posts, chairs, 1 longer than 3 lines
9 posts, Awaclus, none longer than 3 lines
8 posts, Galz, 1 longer than 3 lines
130 posts have been only one line or less
57 have been 2 lines
24 have been 3 lines
45 have been longer than three lines
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« on: September 17, 2018, 07:56:52 am »vote: chairs is reasonable
Agreed, vote: chairs
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 17, 2018, 07:55:07 am »
this is like ultrabuddying
Ha! The idea that it is possible to buddy Awa at all is funny to me. I have come to accept that Awaclus is not going to actually chat about what he is thinking, but he does respond to direct questions. So, that is what I am trying to do with him going forward.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 17, 2018, 07:49:24 am »I woke up with a super anti-Eddie feeling. It seems like he has spent the majority of the last few days trying to keep us spiraling under the guise of confusion. He defends Lalight, says Fangs lynch didn’t have a plan, etc but stops short of any real reads or forward momentum. I don’t see anything from what’s he’s said in the last few pages that is actually helpful.
Am I expecting too much? Or is that legit scum behavior?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 16, 2018, 09:11:16 pm »I agree that someone needs to die today, I’m even fine with us moving forward without grief. I just find it dangerous to manufacture a system with that much rigidity.
Regarding the looking at a vet strat, I am highly uncertain.
Thief’s death reads as “unplanned” to me. Because of how late in the voting process his wagon started, I would assume there was little forethought to him being a newbie, and thus kill worthy.
I think the only way the Scum could have planned his death were if they were in the last few votes, but two newbs were the last two IIRC. Actually I think 3/5 newbies were voting for Thief.
Not saying it isn’t two vets, by the way. I just don’t think the deaths factor as much into player experience.
ok so this could just be me.
But I feel like you think scum really plans who to kill for the lynch. For me personally when I'm scum I'm not thinking in the night of who i'm going to lynch the next day. Basically my goals are try to not lynch my team and as long as that happens I'm happy.
Then again maybe there are other players that really plan out who they are going to lynch the next day. I'm just not one of them.
That’s my whole point, actually. WCD has been implying that because two newbies died the vets are to blame, I was saying that the likelihood of Thief’s death being planned is super low.
Well, at least one vet to blame (scum) because I’m not scum and you and I are the only newbs left. So, if it’s you, you have a vet partner. If it’s not you and not me, it’s two vets.
Also, my argument doesn’t hinge on Fangs lynch being planned. It could have just been fortuitous that a newb has a oroductive wagon. But I am certain that the vets have been more skillful at avoiding votes and likely encouraging fangs demise either by encouraging the wagon or not showing up to allow the vet lynch (Chairs) to happen.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 16, 2018, 09:07:53 pm »I agree that someone needs to die today, I’m even fine with us moving forward without grief. I just find it dangerous to manufacture a system with that much rigidity.
Regarding the looking at a vet strat, I am highly uncertain.
Thief’s death reads as “unplanned” to me. Because of how late in the voting process his wagon started, I would assume there was little forethought to him being a newbie, and thus kill worthy.
I think the only way the Scum could have planned his death were if they were in the last few votes, but two newbs were the last two IIRC. Actually I think 3/5 newbies were voting for Thief.
Not saying it isn’t two vets, by the way. I just don’t think the deaths factor as much into player experience.
ok so this could just be me.
But I feel like you think scum really plans who to kill for the lynch. For me personally when I'm scum I'm not thinking in the night of who i'm going to lynch the next day. Basically my goals are try to not lynch my team and as long as that happens I'm happy.
Then again maybe there are other players that really plan out who they are going to lynch the next day. I'm just not one of them.
That’s my whole point, actually. WCD has been implying that because two newbies died the vets are to blame, I was saying that the likelihood of Thief’s death being planned is super low.
Well, at least one vet to blame (scum) because I’m not scum and you and I are the only newbs left. So, if it’s you, you have a vet partner. If it’s not you and not me, it’s two vets.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 16, 2018, 07:34:20 pm »Vote: chairs
I’m just moving my vote off of Awaclus, but still reading and thinking, so I’m not sure it will stay here.
I’m not convinced Eddie isn’t scum, but I think it’s kind of awful for all the newbs to die first in a newb game.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 16, 2018, 03:10:00 pm »Gotta have confidence at this point about something. I still think we should be looking at a vet. I don’t think newbies could have engineered the double newb town deaths.
Eddie (by the way, your profile picture is EVERYTHING!) is not as interesting to me as Chairs or Hydrad, but the confusion and lack of position reads as shifty to me. It seems to me that you are trying to keep the game from moving forward and that is not town-friendly.
I’m also interested in gkrieg to finish his read.
But I think we have to start getting a productive wagon on scum. I’m not sure we have the luxury of too many more mislynches.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 16, 2018, 11:10:20 am »Awaclus, what’s your thinking on Eddie?
If you're not his scum partner, why are you that interested in my thinking on him?
I was hoping that you might share your thinking so that we can lynch scum this time. With only six town left, we need to all be on the same page, it seems.
I’m liking Eddie, Chairs and Hydrad for scum. So you, me, swan, LL, and gkrieg all need to coalesce, yes?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 15, 2018, 11:14:06 pm »Well, you could start by expressing why you think I am shifty.
Mostly all of the references to confusion.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« on: September 15, 2018, 11:08:53 pm »
Hhhmmm....re #139 long Igu post about me not posting much (phone quoting is hard)...
I’ll have to count when I’m on a computer but I’m reasonably sure I’m not the lowest level poster and my posts have been far longer than the one line gkrieg and silver posts.
Al of which is to say, I’m not doing nothing nor trying to be minimally engaged. And thanks for the hat tip. I’m trying not to take it personally and know you (likely) are justctrying to get me to contribute something of substance. (Again, trying. Y’all know there isn’t a users manual or instruction book, right?)
Currently, the votes on Galz and e seem to me to have the best reasoning. I can’t say that I have a real read on anyone so I’m looking at the logic others employ.
Vote: e
OK - So I am trying super hard to TR you here... but are you, in the same post, trying to defend your lack of content play and also saying you find the solo vote on Galz (which literally says, "because they are lurking")?
Please elaborate on why you think Galz is a good vote?
TR?
The arguments for many folks seem to be “this is different/same as usual” and the folks who said that about him and e, leaned on both low engagement and the nature of their content. I’m still unsure how much we Dan actually expect in the weekend, though, so I expect that we’ll hear more from townie kinds of folks, and perhaps less from scummy ones, on Monday.
I’ve been a bit adrift because other than the discussion of plans, there has been little else other than references to history. So it still RVS to me even though I know that time had passed.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 15, 2018, 10:17:56 pm »Vote: Eddie
Awaclus, what’s your thinking on Eddie?
The more I read him, the shifter I find him.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« on: September 15, 2018, 10:13:23 pm »
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Still kinda waiting on you to prove me wrong. Esp if I was wrong on # of days then you have time to do so
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I’ve got husband stuff going on today and tomorrow. I’m under the impression that others are away on weekends so that’s okay, yes? I just have my phone so trying to go back and read is hard.
This is my first RMM game. The other that I played was a newbie game and both silver and Faust were playing, and sharing lots of their thought process so it was MUCH easier for me to follow their lead and put stuff together to meaningfully contribute. That is not happening in this game and the roles are much more opaque. Many of folks reads are what they know of players previously and how they are acting now. Obviously I can’t do that.
Still kinda waiting on you to prove me wrong. Esp if I was wrong on # of days then you have time to do so
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I’ve got husband stuff going on today and tomorrow. I’m under the impression that others are away on weekends so that’s okay, yes? I just have my phone so trying to go back and read is hard.
This is my first RMM game. The other that I played was a newbie game and both silver and Faust were playing, and sharing lots of their thought process so it was MUCH easier for me to follow their lead and put stuff together to meaningfully contribute. That is not happening in this game and the roles are much more opaque. Many of folks reads are what they know of players previously and how they are acting now. Obviously I can’t do that.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« on: September 15, 2018, 09:54:19 pm »
I cannot find someone that I really like... mainly due to lack of participation by experienced players (which is weird bc no Robz).
This is what I was trying to say earlier. I’m not sure why I’m being held to a meaningful contribution standard when almost no else is.
I’m away for a wine tasting weekend today and tomorrow, so a real reread will have to wait.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« on: September 15, 2018, 07:24:39 pm »I mean, the point is that before I called her out, she had literally zero content in like 4-5 days. How is that not scummy?
Starting to feel crazy here. Everyone always discredits my cases and sometimes they really are bad but this one does not seem to be.
We started on 9/11. I got mod-slapped later that day. I was just got back from a conference and am busy elsewhere in the forum and my life, too. Today is 9/15. I have defending myself today since this morning so at most there is 3 days of little content beyond flavor. During those three days when you proposed a plan and then we waited for Ash, then he posted a plan a day later. No one was doing much during those three days. That seems a pretty specific standard that others aren’t being held to.
I get that I’m an easy target. Lynch me if you must, but I’m not scum, and I think anyone who looks closely is going to wonder why you expect me to come up with some great insight that no one else is coming up with nor expected to come up with.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« on: September 15, 2018, 10:40:46 am »Hhhmmm....re #139 long Igu post about me not posting much (phone quoting is hard)...
I’ll have to count when I’m on a computer but I’m reasonably sure I’m not the lowest level poster and my posts have been far longer than the one line gkrieg and silver posts.
Al of which is to say, I’m not doing nothing nor trying to be minimally engaged. And thanks for the hat tip. I’m trying not to take it personally and know you (likely) are justctrying to get me to contribute something of substance. (Again, trying. Y’all know there isn’t a users manual or instruction book, right?)
Currently, the votes on Galz and e seem to me to have the best reasoning. I can’t say that I have a real read on anyone so I’m looking at the logic others employ.
Vote: e
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« on: September 15, 2018, 08:28:12 am »
WCD has posted, like, nothing but clarifications on the flavor in this game. Reads like newbie!scum to me.
As to the content of my posts, fair point. I’m rather intimidated and trying to figure out how I can best engage. And don’t forget when I posted early on about my experience thus far I got mod-smacked for talking about other games. Chills the environment...
I also think that the stuff I’m talking about flavor-clarification wise is helpful. The characters and factions are really twisted and there were folks thinking Awaclus’ claim was three people, when it’s really just one guy. Zimmerman is a cop. That’s helpful, too.
Based on the show, I think Bart has to be in the game and I’d guess that she is either not aligned and a serial killer or a town aligned killer (is that a vig?). On the show, she always kills the right person, and can’t be hurt. So maybe she is bulletproof. I’m not Bart, so I don’t know for sure. But that is what I’d guess. Not having a Bart would be a big hole in the flavor. But I also think there are probably LOTS of people with powers. To see connections, to draw energy, to switch bodies, to resurrect, to time travel. How do you do those in a forum...don’t know.
As for plans and what to do, we’ll, heck if I know. I’m trying to follow along but it’s like entering a conversation that’s been going on for days (years) before I got here. So I listen and follow along and try to make sense of it. I’m smart enough not to tell my role unless I think it helps someone else who needs that information. And I’m not sure I have enough game understanding to hypothesize.
But, dude, I’m trying. I’m posting and reading and showing up. I’m not sure I’d bother if I was scum. Better to just be off the radar, yes?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 14, 2018, 04:46:47 pm »
Just so you know, I think it is really good that you are nice! You should continue to do so even if I scumread you for it this game.
Aw, see....now I like you. And you can be the one that tells the tale in future games when I prove to be town. "Guys, not scum....just nice! She also tries to be funny, but you know....we all have challenges."
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« on: September 14, 2018, 03:46:23 pm »Alright. I'm going to have to watch this show, I think. Is it better than the commercials make it seem?Where would he get 3 safe names to claim? Do you think he used all his team's safeclaims?Awaclus is either town or a very bold scum for making a flavor claim in such a seemingly whimsical manner, which I think is unlikely. You're a good kid.
You, my friend, don't know Awaclus at all.
In the show, those are all the same person. So it could just be one person with several names instead of three people.
Its definitely that. One person who time travels and goes by a different alias in each time period he is in.
unvote
It’s very strange. I was confused for the first three episodes and found them really violent, but then it gets good. Season one is only 8 episodes, and Faust said that was all they used for the game.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 14, 2018, 03:36:53 pm »vote: chairs
Love you too LL smooches <3
What’s smooches?
Slang for kisses!!
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 14, 2018, 03:36:15 pm »
Everyone seems so nice....it’s hard to wrap my mind around the fact that two of you are plotting to kill us! Gads!
Scummy from WCD.
How’s that? It seems like the whole point of the game is to make friends and work together...but two of the new friends are out yo get us! Right? Still, I am admittedly more overtly friendly than average folks, at least based on what I’ve seen so far. Maybe it just hasn’t been ground out of me yet... If I stick around, friendly will definitely be part of my meta. I can be the LaLight of the West!
It may just be part of your meta, but it just reads as scummy to me based on the average meta. Eevee does the same thing in every game he plays.
Fair enough. I’d rather be friendly than not, so being misread for it may be frequent. In the previous game NM12, I think I was the same if you need reference and town, then, too.
This Eevee sounds like my kind of people! Like the anti-Awaclus?
I appreciate the work you’re putting in. It’s helping me learn more about where we go from here, because I feel pretty stuck.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 14, 2018, 02:15:51 pm »
Everyone seems so nice....it’s hard to wrap my mind around the fact that two of you are plotting to kill us! Gads!
Scummy from WCD.
How’s that? It seems like the whole point of the game is to make friends and work together...but two of the new friends are out yo get us! Right? Still, I am admittedly more overtly friendly than average folks, at least based on what I’ve seen so far. Maybe it just hasn’t been ground out of me yet... If I stick around, friendly will definitely be part of my meta. I can be the LaLight of the West!
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Newbie Mafia 13: Adventure Time Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 14, 2018, 01:43:27 pm »So, gkrieg, what is your sense of things? One of the arguments I've made is that we should be looking among the vets (Chairs, LL, Hydrad, DatSwan, Awaclus) since a vet likely engineered the demise of two of our fellow newbs.
I'm going wine tasting with the husband this weekend, so I'll be VLA until Sunday night, and if I am posting it will be from a wine-induced state and I am not sure it will be coherent. Such is the way of Texas wine, you see. It tastes really good if you have enough...
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« on: September 14, 2018, 11:12:07 am »I’m so confused right now. I’m going to endeavor to watch the flavor soon
The show is confusing, too, but you can sort of figure out who the good guys and bad guys are. Oh, and it’s on Hulu rather than Netflix in the US.