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9676
Let's remember that once O had six votes, there was not that much incentive for his partner(s) not to hammer. O wasn't gonna live, and a bus would be very helpful to clearing them. I think that's a weak reason to suspect someone.

9677
Why would Grujah be the mafia target? I'm pretty sure mafia would have targeted SFS or Tables, two super confirmed town players, instead.  In light of that I'm pretty sure Galzria was the mafia kill.  The thread was dead without him much of the time and a quiet town is a benefit to the mafia team.

Regarding O's defense of Joth.  It does seem strange.  I could see one of two possibilities: 1) they're scumbuddies, 2) Joth is town and O wanted rep if we mislynched him, or a townie on his side (Joth) if we didn't.  I'm tending toward the latter.

PEdit: looks like some of this was already stated.

NO WAY the mafia targets Galzria with me having explicitly stated I was going after him today and Robz having strongly implied it. He was lynch target #1. Lots of chaos and noise, very good for the mafia. If Galz was the scum target, I'll eat my hat.

9678
O's constant defending of me served one purpose for him; it got me on his side. Even at the end, I held off hammering him. I was trying not to let his stalwartness as my ally sway me in evaluating him, but ... perhaps it did get to me on some level.

But I also think perhaps he was hoping I would get lynched and he could ride the good graces of my flip.

The other person who has behaved toward me very similarly to O is, of course, pops, but that isn't scummy per se. I wouldn't expect the scum team to embrace matching strategies on anything, necessarily (nor would I rule it out). I know, not helpful.

9679
And Grujah's too. There's plenty of info to analyze. (I will be all over it much later tonight. I have work and meetings and things like that).

9680
Agreed that Galz's being NK'd is somewhat of a blessing, since with you and I both going after him, today would likely have been a clusterf*** with him alive. 

Am I right that, given yesterday's events and tonight's flips, the FoS should land now on pops? (And also, alas, on me. I'm aware I don't look great right now.)

@Robz: Woodcutter = one-shot vigilante

9681
So I guess I convinced someone Galzria was mafia.  Which it turns out was wrong.

Do you guys think Grujah ever used his shot? We've had two kills both nights, which suggests either a second vig or an SK.  But if Grujah ever used his shot we'd have had 3 kills, unless we also had a successful Doc/JK.  I guess we shouldn't role fish.

If Grujah DID use his shot, it's very possible he used it on Galz. It's likely to me that either way Gruj was the mafia kill and Galz was the sk/vig kill.

But they BOTH had a lot of suspicion on them, neither of them makes much sense to me as a scum kill.

Also, good job on lynching O everybody.

9682
But we don't know who the dead targeted.

Well, Insomniac didn't have a power, correct? Or did he gain one after the lynch? And most likely TINAS targeted O or Frisk, depending on which list he decided to follow.

He gained ftl's power and had the option of using it N1. From now on I'm only answering questions bolded and directed at me.

9683
Clarification: if the weak doctor targets someone who is to be killed - does he prevent the kill?

Yes, that's what the weak doctor's power is.

The weak doctor dies if he targets mafia, that's all.

Right. And furthermore, he still protects that mafia that night.

9684
Donde esta Voltgloss? It's MIV wake up time!

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Ah jeez. Yeah, you're right. If you were Jailkept. Hm, it could be that either O or me is the Jailkeeper, anyway.

Or another alive player who hasn't claimed..

Or those two dead guys.. does anyone have a quote where action resolution order is explained?

Basically powers get resolved first, then deaths. So the dead did get to use their actions. It's my understanding that this is the usual way of doing things. Obviously Possession gets resolved before anything else.

Whoops, drop Insomniac of the above list. I was basing off the opening post which isn't updated to show his death yet.

My bad. Forum problems last night.

9686
If Galzria and Frisk both targeted TINAS, and he died, that means neither have a power that protects their target from dying if nightkilled. Meaning, neither can be the True Apothecary or Apprentice. If one of or both of them was, TINAS should have lived. Right?

IDK.

If Weak doctor targets scum, does doctor protection save them?

Yes.

9687
Double Bah!

9688
Oh yeah. With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

9689
I hope no one objects to an early Day 2 start? It occurred to me that since everyone has a night action there's no reason to wait the full 48 hours once everyone has submitted.  If there are no objections we'll continue to do the night phases in this manner.

Good morning. None of you slept last night. You got ready for bed, but you all felt a certain sense of forboding, like the Familiars wouldn't be content to just mess with your memories. So you all woke up and rushed to each others' aid, practicing your ministrations on the sick and the well alike. Then, your minds still foggy from the Potion, you went back to sleep. The fervored pace of last night's doctoring comes back to you in a haze, like a dream, as you step out of your Vineyard groves and survey your fellow anonymous apothecaries. But weren't there more people here yesterday?

You find the bodies of Thisisnotasmile and Insomniac cluttering the Vineyard floor.


Thisisnotasmile, Town Apothecary has been killed by black magic, medical malpractice, or a combination of the two.

Insomniac, Town Herbalist has been killed by black magic, medical malpractice, or a combination of the two.

Day 2 has begun.

9690
But he said something like "You got this one. gg." beforehand.  That's what was so weird.

9691
Feedback / Re: Private Message emails marked as spam
« on: June 26, 2012, 06:05:02 pm »
Also because they are forged to look like they are from a gmail account, when they aren't.

It would be nice if you could tell your mail server, "no, these smelly looking things, I actually like them".

It would also be nice if I just learned or cared enough about running a mail server so that I could set something up less janky.

But you know, maybe a solution is for you guys to just email each other directly?

like I said, a solution is not required.  I check the forum directly enough that I really don't need to be emailed to know I have a PM.

9692
http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120625-193630-8c712cac.html

I don't understand why this guy resigned.  I think maybe he thought early Province = lots of Provinces? But I was probably going to stall in a big way. Maybe he just thought a game against an opponent who only bought Fool's Gold would be too boring? I DON'T think I would have won this game.

9693
Feedback / Re: Private Message emails marked as spam
« on: June 26, 2012, 05:56:40 pm »
That makes sense, but I still don't understand why some do and some don't. They all come from the same place.

9694
Feedback / Private Message emails marked as spam
« on: June 26, 2012, 05:52:23 pm »
This is not a problem that requires a solution, but I was a little curious about it.

For some reason, of the emails I get alerting me to a new PM from this form, some but not all (maybe 2/3) get dumped in my gmail spam filter, but the others go to my inbox seemingly at random. Has anyone else had this experience?

9695
I keep telling myself "this is my last mafia game"

at least my iso level is creeping back up to pre-mafia level.

9696
If that one was me, you now have it!

You're not even playing in Mafia V...

9697
Unfortunately, still waiting on one. Plus some of the pertinent information only exists on my home computer and I'm at work.  But I may jump the gun and start the day this evening.

9698
Forum Games / Re: Any void left by Mafia I?
« on: June 26, 2012, 04:50:35 pm »
Two regular games and one Bastard game are clearly not enough if they can all be in Night Phase at the same time...

In my opinion anyway.

You'll get nothing and like it. (Night is <48 hours anyways).

It occurs to me that since everyone has a night action in M-V there's not much reason to wait the full 48 hours.  The usual reason is just because you can check who's been online and potentially figure out mafia, right?

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Other Games / Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« on: June 26, 2012, 11:49:25 am »
Would it be (A) cool or (B) kinda lame if Dark Ages had a Dragon card?

9700
Other Games / Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« on: June 26, 2012, 11:48:54 am »
How do people feel about Carcassone expansions? Do they significantly improve the game? Are some better than others? What about that one with the dragon? Dragons are cool.

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