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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Familiar vs Witch?
« on: November 02, 2012, 09:13:31 pm »
OR? Why not both?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: ZM3 - Day 2 Underway - Spec QT Available
« on: November 02, 2012, 08:59:28 pm »
Vote: Jotheonah
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Bastard Mafia VI: Where the Roles are Made Up and the Votes Don't Matter
« on: November 02, 2012, 08:57:14 pm »Vote Count
ashersky(4): Voltgloss, Robz, Captain_Frisk, Cuzz [L-1]
Glooble(1): Eevee
Captain_Frisk(1): Glooble
Eevee(1): cayvie
Robz(1): ashersky
With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is Sunday night.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XI: Find Yourself in the Courtyard Masquerade -- DAY 4
« on: November 02, 2012, 04:57:42 pm »
exactly. That means keeping YN alive two more days even though tons of folks think he's scummy.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XIV: The Chicken Curse of the Sea Hags (Day 4)
« on: November 02, 2012, 04:49:02 pm »
Well, if we had to lynch a townie, thank god we lynched the curser! One less chicken running around.
Vote: Insomniac, scummiest of all scum or I'm a chicken's uncle.
Vote: Insomniac, scummiest of all scum or I'm a chicken's uncle.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XI: Find Yourself in the Courtyard Masquerade -- DAY 4
« on: November 02, 2012, 04:47:42 pm »
I think Axxle's wine plan is cute, but it would take too long to get into action.
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General Discussion / Re: Drinking
« on: November 02, 2012, 04:43:56 pm »
Turns out my new job is down with beer in the office on Friday afternoons. #hitthejackpot
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: ZM3 - Day 2 Underway - Spec QT Available
« on: November 02, 2012, 04:22:20 pm »
Quick answer to your question: I forgot about the plurality lynch rule. Once I realized no lynch wasn't a risk, there was no reason not to stick with my top scum read.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: ZM3 - Day 2 Underway - Spec QT Available
« on: November 02, 2012, 03:29:33 pm »
It doesn't seem like SFS has posted very much content.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: ZM3 - Day 2 Underway - Spec QT Available
« on: November 02, 2012, 03:17:06 pm »
Clearly this is the best way to catch scum. 
I have been participating a fair amount day 2!
I have been participating a fair amount day 2!
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XI: Find Yourself in the Courtyard Masquerade -- DAY 4
« on: November 02, 2012, 01:58:02 pm »
Are you sure that's your card and not O1's card?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: ZM3 - Day 2 Underway - Spec QT Available
« on: November 02, 2012, 12:43:20 pm »cool, while catching up I see Dsell's not coming off scummy for that post. Even town can be wrong,, that's somethign that f.DS seems to forget a lot.
technically only town can be wrong. mafia can only be deliberately misleading.
Delaying the night kill is stupid.
If we lynch scum today, and galz says he's going to target me. If no kill happens, then you guys will lynch me, see I'm town, and we're in the same situation as would have been if scum had just NK'd someone else. You're trading one scum directed kill for another.
It might be worth it for all the confusion it generates, even if it's mathematically the same.
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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Homage to the Best Card
« on: November 02, 2012, 12:35:08 pm »Nah, it's even better with Duchy, it just means the other player is also an insanity wolf.
There's no "Insanity Wolf vs Insanity Wolf" image...
Better: make the second Insanity Wolf a Good Guy Greg.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XI: Find Yourself in the Courtyard Masquerade -- DAY 4
« on: November 02, 2012, 12:31:41 pm »with a bit more consensus i'd be happy to.
CARD-CLAIM. How much more consensus do you need?
If we really think the best thing is for O to shoot tonight, then I think it might be time to make certain info public (to avoid a misfire). If the other people who have that info agree, please indicate that. If you disagree, don't respond to this comment at all.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XI: Find Yourself in the Courtyard Masquerade -- DAY 4
« on: November 02, 2012, 10:05:15 am »
Insom is a bad vig target. Try again.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: ZM3 - Day 2 Underway - Spec QT Available
« on: November 02, 2012, 09:14:27 am »So it makes sense for Galz to claim a target IF AND ONLY IF we lynch scum. If there's two scum out there, claiming a target just tells them which one of them should perform the kill/who they should avoid targeting (depending on if the announced target is scum or town).
Obviously we won't know if we lynch scum until the thread is locked - ergo he should not announce.
Or he should announce conditionally: "If X is flips scum, I will target Y. Otherwise, I will make no claims about my target."
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: ZM3 - Day 2 Underway - Spec QT Available
« on: November 02, 2012, 08:36:27 am »
So it makes sense for Galz to claim a target IF AND ONLY IF we lynch scum. If there's two scum out there, claiming a target just tells them which one of them should perform the kill/who they should avoid targeting (depending on if the announced target is scum or town).
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: ZM3 - Day 2 Underway - Spec QT Available
« on: November 02, 2012, 07:30:09 am »
I will be V/LA until about 5, doing the work thing. Weekend should be good for me for posting.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: ZM3 - Day 2 Underway - Spec QT Available
« on: November 02, 2012, 07:07:52 am »Here's a topic to discuss.
There's no doctor, so the mafia's gonna shoot Galzria or the person he confirms as town (assuming Galz didn't cop scum) tonight. Obviously Galz is gonna jailkeep someone since he probably won't get another use of his power.
Should he announce who he plans to jailkeep before the day is over? If he does, and there is a NK, then we have no info on the jailed person's alignment (unless we lynch mafia today, and then that person would be confirmed town). However, if there is no kill, that suggests that the person Galzria jailed is the mafia killer, and that person should be the next lynch.
However, this gives mafia the chance to WIFOM the town by not killing anyone (and thus attempting to frame whoever Galz jailed). This is very risky for mafia for two reasons: 1. There will still be two confirmed townies running around (again, assuming Galz found a townie last night) on day 3, and 2. Galzria has a 50% chance of blocking mafia anyway if we lynch town and a 25% chance of blocking mafia if we lynch mafia, so deciding not to perform a kill could implicate them anyway.
I think that, in light of this, it seems too risky for the mafia not to kill. Therefore, I think the best plan is for Galz to announce who he's going to jail before the day is over. Even if we lynch town, he should have at least a 25% chance of blocking the mafia kill (6 players at end of day, 1 confirmed townie + himself = 4 targets for jailkeeping), and better if his reads are good.
Discuss.
You should also tell us your reads, considering they'll be coming from a confirmed Townie.
Food for thought: Did Robz really need to protect Galz? If he said he would, but then didnt, and targeted someone else, would Scum take the risk of targeting Galz? I think no.
Of course, Robz did die. So matter who he would of chosen, it wouldnt have prevented his death.
I do wonder if he did target Galz, or just blufffed he would and target someone else. Gotta ask him post-game if that ever crossed his mind.
In his shoes, I would've protected me about 10% of the time, and just planned on taking the raging I would receive if I got it wrong.
Even if Galzria claims a target, who's going to believe him after that statement. I don't really see the value in this - there are too many things that can go wrong. Also, Dsell could be mafia trying to get hints about who not to target tomorrow night. I got a slight scum read from that post.
Still think shraeye is scummy, though admittedly I'm not awesome at reading him. It's very possible that his opposition to Robz's follow the cop idea was just prudence/contrarianism. But I can't ignore that he DID try to stop it, and that his reasons for opposing it didn't seem compelling to me at the time. Would scum risk that? It depends on how screwed they felt they would be by the plan, I guess.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XI: Find Yourself in the Courtyard Masquerade -- DAY 4
« on: November 02, 2012, 12:22:46 am »
FWIW, I buy O's claim for some stupid reason.
But I really don't want to say "Hey guy who roleblocked a cop last night, just use your vig on whomever you find scummy." I don't want O vigging an obvtown because he didn't read the thread.
But I really don't want to say "Hey guy who roleblocked a cop last night, just use your vig on whomever you find scummy." I don't want O vigging an obvtown because he didn't read the thread.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: ZM3 - Day 2 Underway - Spec QT Available
« on: November 02, 2012, 12:11:07 am »
Well at least there's a silver lining - we won't have to deal with any fake PR claims if we run scum up to L1.
Galz, I'm not really sure what's to gain by keeping mum. If you found scum, just out 'em and we'll all sheep you. If you didn't, give us our IC so we can analyze their reads and behavior from day one.
Galz, I'm not really sure what's to gain by keeping mum. If you found scum, just out 'em and we'll all sheep you. If you didn't, give us our IC so we can analyze their reads and behavior from day one.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XIV: The Chicken Curse of the Sea Hags (Day 3)
« on: November 01, 2012, 06:12:43 pm »
oh dammit. Vote: Archetype
but I still think Insom is scum.
but I still think Insom is scum.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XIV: The Chicken Curse of the Sea Hags (Day 3)
« on: November 01, 2012, 06:05:05 pm »
WOrks for me. Declaring intent to hammer. Anyone want to offer a rousing defense?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XIV: The Chicken Curse of the Sea Hags (Day 3)
« on: November 01, 2012, 06:00:50 pm »
I have no read on Archetype right now. What's the case there?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XIV: The Chicken Curse of the Sea Hags (Day 3)
« on: November 01, 2012, 05:53:42 pm »Also I dont think Jorbles is making Archetype vote for himself over a quoting fail
But that would be hilarious.