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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 2)
« on: April 27, 2017, 12:12:52 am »
Oh go away for a little bit.

You are obviously going to be able to win any argument that I put at you because you are better at twisting words and using select quotes and appealing to emotions in a way that people still like you at the end of it.

So I am not even going to try and get frustrated with you. I'll put up some stuff later today (today as in today in this game by the way, like Saturday or Sunday) as long as I don't get lynched.

Then you can just totally demolish it and get everyone to ignore it.

Uh I'm really surprised you are so touchy about this. Say why doing what you did D 1 is townie. Also I know kkrieg was online and could've voted mcmcsalot. vote: kkrieg
Yea I won't deny that. I could have switched my vote but I honestly thought Awaclus was scummier than mcmc.

I vote: no lynch and will be voting Spce tomorrow

I feel best about no lynching today and committing to lynching Space if I'm alive the next day. So if I don't die tonight, I'm voting Space tomorrow.
Well since you want to no lynch and SA doesn't want to vote for themselves, I think we have to no lynch.
Do you feel good about lynching today?

I feel best about no lynching today and committing to lynching Space if I'm alive the next day. So if I don't die tonight, I'm voting Space tomorrow.

Will I die if we no lynch?
I think it's you or me haha

Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« on: April 24, 2017, 01:20:16 am »
Only three more for the mcmcsalot wagon to go!  Any takers?  Kkrieg, why do you think Awaclus is a better lynch than mcmcsalot?
babe you know it's past my bedtime don't ask hard questions

he reacted pretty quickly to my initial kinda random vote at him
he hasn't been particularly helpful
he jumped on the mcmc train

honestly my reasons are weak but heyy it is day 1

Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« on: April 23, 2017, 11:23:30 pm »
hey gkrieg I know you're online what do you think about awaclus?

Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« on: April 23, 2017, 10:14:54 pm »
I mean if all we can do is lynch mcmc or no one, I will vote for mcmc befoere I go to sleep in about 2 hrs
I agree with this.

I'm fine no lynching and getting NK as long as you and awalcus plan to lynch Space the next day.

Isn't it silly to lynch today? Our chances of winning are much better if we no lynch.

Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« on: April 23, 2017, 04:56:11 pm »
I'd be ok with Awaclus or Andrew

Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« on: April 23, 2017, 03:58:42 pm »
I don't have any strong scum reads, but I don't think Robz is.

This is why I think Space is scum. I reread LaLight and I think what he says about her is really, really weird.
I pulled almost every quote from LaLight that has any mention of Space (may have missed one, but I don't think I did).
Everything LaLight says about Space is in her defense. I bolded those things for clarity.
Just me, or super scummy?

In other news, I like the stuff that's been going on.
1. I think LaLight's English is native speaker level, or at least that's the impression I get.
2. Space isn't impersonal when it comes to playing, but when it comes to reads...maybe?
3. I love the kkrieg vote. It's always harder to contribute as scum than as town, because all yoir reads have to be pretty much made up. That being said, I don't want to lynch a newbie D1 in a newbie game, especially when they're the newest newbie.

1) Oh, thanks a lot! The funniest thing is that my english improved massively after playing Forum Mafia endlessly :D
3) If they are scum, we should lynch them nevertheless. Because that's, um, the point of the game. I am not sure kkrieg is scum though.
Lalight skips over #2 (comment dealing with Space)

I have about 20% confidence in my reads at this point, but here they are:

RR is town - so too probably is Jake. Awaclus as well. They are all ones I want to find scummy, but am not for what that is worth.

schadd feels slightly scummy to me.

kkrieg seems to be doing fine. So null there, but that is to be expected.

IDPTG-I don't buy the schadd stuff there, probably hence why I find schadd scummy.

That leaves Lalight and Space and honestly, you two are kinda of combining together a bit. I feel like I remember more from LA and it was townie enough, so I guess that leaves Space as being somewhat more suspicious. But not enough to make me want to vote or anything like that. Just how I am remembering at this specific moment.

so, it's 80% that Jake/RR/Awa are scums, schadd is slightly townie, kkrieg is... erm... not null and you buy the schadd stuff on IDPTG?

On a serious note, me and Space are really good friends so we kinda combine together (if I understood correctly what you meant).
This is interesting. I know they are friends IRL but still. Why would that make them "kinda combine together?"

Just read Space. Hasn't had a single post {please correct me if I am wrong, it is a bit late and I am a bit dopey I will freely admit} that was scum hunting oriented. But still had a lot of posts that had a "I am helpful so don't suspect me" vibe.

I saw that you stated that you would get more into that aspect of the game on Sunday, which I get and respect that you have been busy. But on the flip side, I am seeing now that I am town, one of my roles {Awaclus would probably disagree, but they can have their own playstyle} is to give out reads and hunt so that others can more easily read me. And from what I have seen of you that is also a descriptor I would assign to you.

So. vote: Space

Actually, knowing Space, I can say that it's a huge probability that on D1 they are leaving a scumhunting to newbies helping them with some setup advices and if things go bad, Space will step up and say: "okay, guys, now my reads", and this will be correct.
Defending her play style and trying to get others to agree with her future reads

okay, reread everything twice and the more time goes the more I am scumreading TWM. At first he was pretty townie due to lack of effort that he puts a lot of when he's scum. But now it looks like that was intentional because now he slowly returns to his scum meta. I am calling TWM/schadd scumteam and remaining on schadd's wagon, who was scummy before and is scummy now.

The other person to think about is Awaclus. Maybe he's doing the same thing with scumreading me with 100% surety for metareasons (because previously he's been doing that as town so now he exprects us to read him as town again (which works as far as I can see)).

Can't read RR and Jake at all. They are generally scummy and it's hard to judge. I won't be surprised if one or both are scum, but for now schadd is scummier than both combined.

I tend to townread SA a lot, and I am doing it now, but I keep in mind that they may as well be scum and nothing really would differ in that case. Don't want to lynch right now, but will watch closer after (if i will make it to D2 :) )

kkrieg is the nullest of all, i can easily see her being scum and being town. I wish there were more content because it's hard for me to read someone the first time.

e/IDPTG are on townie side, but I don't really support schadd's idea that that IDPTG leaving post was IC-level townie. But D1 pass from me.

1. kkrieg
Behaves as a newb!newb, can't tell if scum or not. May be both ways, I usually struggle to read people I haven't played with.
2. LaLight - IC, you know
3. Awaclus - either he is very townie or imitates his town play really well. Again, may be both ways, but I probably do not want to lynch him.
4. SpaceAnemone - massive town vibes. Yes, yes, may be imitated. I am sorry my reads are mostly crap. It's that stage of the game where everyone seems scummy to me unregarding anything.
5. The Wine Merchant
7. JaketheBaseballGod22 - here we come into much scummier field. Jake feels very careful with posting and now he starts to tunnel people who may or may not be his partners. But he's not the one I want to lynch today.
8. schadd - Here we go, Scummy McScum Scummelson. I look at schadd's post and activity level and it rings all the alarm bells I have. schadd loves being VT, he said in Mafia Hub it's his favorite role and his behaviour in this game does seem like he is trying as hard as he can to seem just a VT. But it's a good gisguised scum play as I see it and I can't get away from this feeling.
9. Roadrunner7671 - quite a good candidature for being schadd's partner. Reverse tunneling is a thing that really helps you get towncred. Given that we had wagons on TWM/Jake/2.7 in the EoD, given that RR supposedly knew they all may be were town, he could easily protect E, because anyway the town will be lynched. Now the town is lynched, RR has townpoints, voila. I don't believe the plan, I don't believe RR.
To me, this is the most interesting thing LaLight said about Space ESPECIALLY considering his last comment about her.

Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« on: April 22, 2017, 09:31:14 pm »
i always find people i haven't played with before hard to read, applies to kkrieg very much here. although i guess if they've talked about the game at all, she's had a pretty good mentor.

still, if the case is just not saying a lot of insightful stuff, that's hard enough day 1 when you know everyone and all the game mechanics, let alone for someone who is still learning the ropes. i'm willing to give some leeway (only extends for day 1!)
gkrieg and I have talked surprisingly little about mafia.

I'm fine with no leeway. If people really think I'm scum I have no problems being lynched (that sounds weird - to clarify, I do mind being lynched because I'm town, but do not expect less suspicion because I'm new)

What I'm thinking is it would be best to talk about who we will lynch tomorrow while all 4 of us are alive. Do a no lynch today and hopefully have a better idea of who scum is tomorrow.

I don't know - at this point is it helpful to point out why I specifically think Space is scum? If she isn't, then it gives scum more reasons to attack a  townie. Does that make sense?

I think I'm on board with a no lynch today.
But I did just finish rereading and the scummiest feels we're Space.

Is anyone else feeling the most scumminess from Space?

Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« on: April 22, 2017, 02:37:55 pm »
I think more people should be voting kkrieg.

Everyone seems to be playing into their meta pretty well. The only person who has done anything scummy is kkrieg, but that could also be just being new. I could possibly get behind a Robz lynch just because.

I think TWM is town, not so sure about everyone else

What scummy things has she done?
Ditto question ^^^^.

Shouldn't we no lynch here?

I actually don't like no lynch, because it probably just means I get NK'd and I don't think that helps you out very much.

Haha, seriously? I think all three of you have been moderately townie this game, but someone's got to be the scum. Whoever it is has played a solid game, because I'm really not convinced we know enough to lynch for certain here. A no-lynch costs us nothing, so why not go for it?

Haha, seriously. The only reason why I wouldn't get killed is if someone else has a strong scum read on the scum. We have to lynch sooner or later, and I'd rather get to influence the lynch than not.
I'm definitely for no lynching today. To make lynching worth it, all 3 town would have to agree on the one scum right? I don't see that happening. I don't have a solid read on the last scum.

Awaclus - who would you lynch?

Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« on: April 22, 2017, 12:46:24 am »
Like who/what?
You, Robz, mcmc. And that's just in the last 10 posts.

So what should I be looking for, to find scum, then? I'm not saying you're wrong, I've had good cause to ask myself this very question in recent games.
I feel like this is a great question.

Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« on: April 22, 2017, 12:45:05 am »
only one of them is scum though

I've been thinking about this more and if you pick any two people in this game, the chances that one of them is scum is pretty high.
Well I know I'm not scum so you must be? :)

Wow down to 4 people so quickly?

Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« on: April 21, 2017, 12:54:21 am »
I'm probably a lurker right now huh?
Faust seems fairly towny which makes me want to jump on the e train.

You mean the eevee train.

This post is really interesting by kkrieg. And I think scummy

Vote: kkrieg
Haha my reasoning for posting that was "I have no scum reads so I'll try to be helpful by showing I'm town by agreeing with someone else who seems towny."

Seems like that backfired.

Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« on: April 20, 2017, 10:57:02 pm »
I'm probably a lurker right now huh?
Faust seems fairly towny which makes me want to jump on the e train.

Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 1)
« on: April 20, 2017, 12:38:36 am »
gut feel vote: Awalcus

Oh just counted th votes and realized he's already been lynched oops.

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