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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Quadratic cards
« on: December 26, 2011, 12:00:18 pm »
This seems on-topic: how would you feel about the following setup?

Vineyard, Chapel, Cellar, Familiar, Silk Road, Gardens, Laboratory, Duke, Grand Market, Fairgrounds

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: stockpiling on trash for benefit cards
« on: December 26, 2011, 11:59:22 am »
I'm considering trimming your deck a benefit here.

That really removes all the distinguishing value from the phrase "trash for benefit".
What else could you do, trash to hurt yourself?

Yes!  Every time I buy a Grand Market, it gets Chapelled the next time it's in my hand.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Quadratic cards
« on: December 26, 2011, 11:50:24 am »
With Silk Road in play, your Victory point total would be s(s+v)/4 - ((s+v)mod4)/4 + V, where s is your number of silk roads, v is your number of other victory cards, and V is your victory point total otherwise.  Silk Road is linear - just multivariable.

...No, that formula is quadratic. It has an s2 term in it.

Stupid distribution.  The formula's right, anyway.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Province / Colony Games
« on: December 26, 2011, 11:20:24 am »
By the way, how did you ever find Dominion fun before Prosperity came out?

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Happy Christmas
« on: December 26, 2011, 11:16:21 am »
Yay! Got Hinterlands for Christmas!

Same!

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: stockpiling on trash for benefit cards
« on: December 26, 2011, 11:15:49 am »
This would work only for Remodel family (except Mine) or Salvager family, or Steward.  You only really want one Chapel (two at most) or one Moneylender.  I'm considering trimming your deck a benefit here.  It really depends on what the card does.  You really only want to spam cantrips, or drawing cards (where there are plenty of villages).  Too many of other stuff, and you may just end up with a hand full with Remodels.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Quadratic cards
« on: December 26, 2011, 11:09:01 am »
Your first Silk Road (assuming 3 starting Estates) is worth 2 VP. Your fifth Silk Road is worth 4 VP on its own and adds another 8 VP by increasing the value of the first four Silk Roads.

No it's not.  Your first Silk Road is worth 1 VP, yielding 4VP in total with your Estates. If you don't buy any other Victory cards, your fifth Silk Road is also worth 1 VP.  With Silk Road in play, your Victory point total would be s(s+v)/4 - ((s+v)mod4)/4 + V, where s is your number of silk roads, v is your number of other victory cards, and V is your victory point total otherwise.  Silk Road is linear - just multivariable.  If you had all the wacky victory cards in play (gardens, duke, vineyard, fairgrounds, silk road), the sum equation would be:

V = s(s+dk+vy+f+g+dch+v)/4-((s+dk+vy+f+g+v)mod4)/4+g(s+dk+vy+f+g+dch+v+a-av+o)/10-((s+dk+vy+f+g+dch+v+a-av+ o)mod10)/10+dk*dch+vy*a/3-((vy*a)mod3)/3+2f*N/5-((2f*N)mod5)/5+C

where V is your total VP, s = silk roads, dk = dukes, vy = vineyards, f = fairgrounds, g = gardens, dch = duchies, v = other VP cards, a = action cards, av = action-victory cards, o = other cards, N = number of different cards in deck, C = conventional victory points, through chips or non-counting VP cards.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Homage to the Best Card
« on: December 26, 2011, 02:03:05 am »
img-Hamlet
Whether 'tis Nobles in the Mine to suffer the Spies and Swindlers of outrageous Fortune Tellers, or to take up Moat against a Sea of Hags, and by Reacting end them?

To die, to sleep, perchance to dream... of what next spring's expansion will be.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: More Fun With (Un)popular Buys
« on: December 25, 2011, 07:09:06 pm »
This might be a stupid question, but where do you find your most/least bought cards on iso?

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Happy Christmas
« on: December 25, 2011, 10:58:22 am »
May you all find expansions under your tree.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Homage to the Best Card
« on: December 25, 2011, 10:56:18 am »
Please, Santa...


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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Happy Christmas
« on: December 24, 2011, 11:34:33 pm »
Happy Newtonmas!

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General Discussion / Re: Man, this forum is changing my speech patterns.
« on: December 24, 2011, 05:36:57 pm »
This is slightly off topic, but I find it odd how Donald X has less "respect" than theory on this forum...

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General Discussion / Re: Man, this forum is changing my speech patterns.
« on: December 24, 2011, 02:35:50 pm »
Being extremely interested in linguistics (I'm currently translating Dominion cards into my own made-up language <.<), I'm well aware that prescriptivism is silly.  However, it offends my sensibilities when people just don't know how to spell or use punctuation correctly, even if everyone else is doing it.  Part of me feels it should be a federal offense.  But that's just me.  And I didn't notice any particular speech patterns on this forum, but the internet has made me actually say "LOL" in my head (pronounced "lawl") whenever I find something amusing.

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Dominion FAQ / Re: Dominion Lingo Dictionary
« on: December 24, 2011, 11:55:46 am »
Can we try to come up with a uniform definition for the term combo? I have noticed this getting debated off-handedly in a number of threads recently.
I would propose the following three definitions:

Combo: Two or more cards that work together in such a way that the sum of the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

Complete Combo: A combo (see above) that by itself is an entire strategy, such that buying just the combo cards and money can be enough to win a game (village/torturer, village/wharf, etc.)

Incomplete Combo: A combo (see above) that needs other cards to be effective. Usually this will be an accelrator or bonus component for another engine. (hamlet/menagerie, salvager/spice merchant)

I think it is useful to distinguish between these three concepts, although the names could maybe use some work.

But, and this is the problem I have with much of what gets posted in this thread, people don't actually use those terms. I don't think things should be here saying 'people should use this phrase' because it almost never catches on. If it HAS caught on, then post it. (I'm obviously excepting combo here, though that's not super well-defined and agreed upon)

See also:  cantrip

I actually use the word "cantrip" quite a lot...

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Province / Colony Games
« on: December 24, 2011, 02:40:09 am »
As an observation, from IRL (which I play more often), Colony games tend to take longer, but they add a certain spice.  It's very satisfying to play Platinums, and usually very satisfying to play the expensive cards that merit Colony games, like King's Court and Bank.  But it's definitely not something I'd want all the time.  I really dislike playing the same setup multiple times (though I've kind of hardened myself to the First Game setup since I end up introducing a lot of people to the game, though there is still a lot of variety and strategy to explore in that set), or even playing with the same card multiple times.  As much as I like Grand Market, I would get irritated if it was in my setup for more than a couple games in a row.  And Colonies and Platinums are really an addition - they're quite fun when played in moderation, but are nonetheless superfluous.  They're really an extra two Kingdom cards you can add to any setup of 10.  So I dunno.  I'm probably just rambling at this point.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Province / Colony Games
« on: December 23, 2011, 04:08:37 pm »
Yeah, you can still require cards or require that they not be there.  It may not count to your ranking, but you can certainly do it.  Just put "colony" in the required bar, and it'll put Colonies and Platinums in.  I mean personally, I tend to play more IRL since I tend to get my ass handed to me on iso, but if you really love Colonies that much, you can always buy the Propserity set and kidnap some friends.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Homage to the Best Card
« on: December 23, 2011, 11:09:58 am »
Scumbag swindler


(edit: switched to memegenerator.net)

I like the stack of scummy hats.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Homage to the Best Card
« on: December 22, 2011, 10:03:03 pm »
Lookout Troll?

I'm not sure why you're grinning about this.  I would expect this to be more of a rage thing.
You need to spend more time in the interwebs my friend. The face is a popular "troll" face. Basically, your enemy grinning at your dismay.

I'm well aware of what trollface is.  I just thought this was the wrong context for it, and that rageface was better suited.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Homage to the Best Card
« on: December 22, 2011, 06:47:12 pm »
Lookout Troll?

I'm not sure why you're grinning about this.  I would expect this to be more of a rage thing.

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Dominion: Barracks - Three fan cards
« on: December 22, 2011, 06:43:22 pm »
What if Ballista trashed a card?  That could represent the ammunition used to fire it and would provide an additional marginal benefit on par with a terminal silver or +2 cards.  If that's too powerful, you could limit the type of card being trashed (trashing a Treasure would let you get rid of coppers; trashing an Estate would be an interesting way of fueling it, but would limit the opportunities to use the card pretty dramatically).

Edit:  I see that you proposed a similar idea.  Great minds think alike!

How about trash a Treasure or Curse card?

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Homage to the Best Card
« on: December 22, 2011, 12:43:41 pm »
scumbag admin

able to edit out annoying quoted images

needs a meme to jolt him into action


Adventurer is not a meme.

But Adventurer is not a meme could be a meme...

I think you miss the point that the Adventurer is theory's (our administrator) avatar.  And YES I'M QUOTING THE IMAGE.  MWAHAHA.

No, I know that.

Ah, I get it now.  And I didn't quote the image this time.  :P

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Dominion: Barracks - Three fan cards
« on: December 22, 2011, 12:42:25 pm »
Ok - for Ballista - we can add a terminal Silver, or have it be "each player (including yourself)," making it a really dickish terminal Spy, or... what if you had to trash a card from your hand first?  Or would that just be silly?  And for playtesting, is there a way to do it online, or am I forced to use my blank cards and coerce my friends to use it in person?

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Dominion: Barracks - Three fan cards
« on: December 22, 2011, 10:52:11 am »
Archery Range: I think I'll make the discard mandatory and leave it at that.

Cadet: Top-decking sounds good.

Ballista: I don't really want to make it a terminal silver because EVERYTHING'S a terminal silver.  I don't want to make it only two cards, because that kinda undermines the whole purpose.  I'm thinking either +1 Action, so it can chain itself (would cantrip status be too good?), or turn it into an unfriendly Lookout - each other player reveals three, trashes one you choose, discards one you choose, puts back the other - would this last require an up in cost?

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