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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 19, 2018, 10:44:42 pm »
Jimmmm is fine, Dylan is also fine.

We do NOT need DatSwan's partner to claim, IMO.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 19, 2018, 05:49:10 pm »
Okay, Vote: Jimmmm

Note to DatSwan: you should stop giving reads if you wish to preserve your partner's anonymity (unless you're doing a fake out).

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 19, 2018, 03:47:35 pm »
No lynching would be terrible.

If it were up to me, somebody would get DS to L-1 soon, so we can give him time to claim, and give ourselves an end of day option.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 19, 2018, 02:31:36 pm »
Your jokey "I don't like my own case" rings scummy to me, as it did to mcmc.

I already said that it wasn't a joke. I'm mildly annoyed that I have to say that again. Please don't repeat that it was jokey.

We are not saying itís literally a joke. We are saying tonaly it had a jokey undertone (whether you wanted it to come out that way or not) and the whole post had a vibe that rings scummy to both robz and I.

That wasn't really what either of you said, but I can accept that it's what you were trying to say. I appreciate you responding rather than ignoring it as Robz continues to do.

I am no longer ignoring, and yes, I meant what mcmc meant.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 19, 2018, 02:30:59 pm »
I think some of you haven't gotten the 'vote counts are automated' memo yet (assuming EFHW is using space's program). If your vote doesn't count, it's probably because of spelling. Space doesn't ignore casing, so if you say Datswan rather than DatSwan, it probably won't be counted.

Oh, really? Okay. Vote: DatSwan

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 19, 2018, 01:40:10 pm »
Well then, Vote: Datswan

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 19, 2018, 12:23:32 pm »
Vote: Jimmmm

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 19, 2018, 12:06:04 pm »
Okay, well, I very actively oppose it because I really do get some strong town vibes from mcmc, and my opinion on mcmc's towniness should count for something significant. Though I could be wrong and might change my mind later.

Galzria... I don't really think Galz has done anything to merit a town read, but I'm not reading him as scum either. Seems like a lot of work to lynch him, and there's not a huge reason to.

What is the vote count?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 19, 2018, 11:22:09 am »
If Silver isn't happening... Dylan, Jimmm, DatSwan, UoS are all fine by me. The only lynches I would quite actively oppose right now are Joth and mcmc, I guess.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 19, 2018, 11:20:47 am »
I have not changed what my argument is. You seem to think that because Robz had a thought that you had too he must be town. That seems odd. Scum has thoughts too, and the particular thought Robz was expressing may occur to scum just as well as to town. In fact scum is more likely to express it because expressing it served no discernible purpose for town.

Also somehow you're hung up on the fact that it's worded similarly to what you would have written. Well. I think the only thing that indicates is that you and Robz have a similar background in your lives. I have no clue why scum would use different wordings.

And no, it is not difficult to be contrarian and play to wind people up. But it is generally speaking not a winning strategy for scum. Scum wants to get on the good side of people so they listen to their manipulation and push back against players who try to lynch them.

PPE: 1

I think it's a bit scummy to try to talk people out of early town reads. Like, what's the point? It's day 1 and I'm looking for reasons to rule people out. Like, if two days from now, there's something really suspicious about mcmc, I'm not going to go, "Alas, my early day 1 read on mcmc tells me otherwise, I will not vote him!" I think scum tends to panic and think oh my god, this person is correctly town reading this other person, they will never vote for each other, I am about to be POE'd, the walls are closing in, I must fight this... At least, I know I have had those freakouts in the past, as scum.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 18, 2018, 04:27:33 pm »
I would like to point out the large shift in ssís posting language/format/content/attitude since the wagon in him grew to a size worth caring about. Indicative of self-preservation and possibly defensiveness.

Jimmmmmmís low activity is generally a town liability, as seen in some very far past games, but when he is town and plays the late game, heís a force.

The more Faust annoys you, the more likely he is to end up town. He knows this and Iím sure tries to play to it, but I donít know how well he does at it. I donít know why he keeps getting NKed early; at this point it seems like living on D3 is a strong enough case to mislynch.

Others are unremarkable, generally.

Faust doesnít generally annoy me; this statement may be true for other players. Town Faust and town galz seem to get under each otherís skins.

Speaking of Galz, Iím sure he will show up eventually, and heís not really a good Day 1 lynch, so I am inclined to just ignore his absence for now.

Ashís point about Silver is solid.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 18, 2018, 04:21:54 pm »
I will admit I do not have a massive town read on faust, he seems to be asking even more questions than usual, and not in as obviously a beneficial way. It almost feels like he's trying to walk people into traps.

I feel the exact same way and would have worded my post about it extremely similar. Robz is town.

This could be buddying. Kind of weird thing to bring up since Robz's towniness isn't really under discussion RN.

Mcmc and I ICíd each other, basically, which is good.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 18, 2018, 01:29:47 pm »
I will admit I do not have a massive town read on faust, he seems to be asking even more questions than usual, and not in as obviously a beneficial way. It almost feels like he's trying to walk people into traps.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 18, 2018, 11:37:30 am »
Vote: SS

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 18, 2018, 11:27:49 am »
Iím caught up. I agree that datswans defensiveness has felt scummy. But Faustís post about scum wanting to not combat votes they receive is very true, it happens all the time. I donít like how quickly the Dylan wagon grew and for the reasons. It was almost a mix of scum reads and pressure votes to reveal his datswan scum tell.

I really want to vote lalight which means heís probably town.

Actually vote: silverspawn I donít like his Dylan vote and his jokey ďI donít like my own caseĒ comment is scummy.

I agree with all of this except the Dylan wagon, the Dylan wagon was fine.

If you agree with that, it implies that you have some kind of problem with the explanation I gave above, because as I see it, the thing on me is just a point of confusion. So what's wrong with my explanation?

Your jokey "I don't like my own case" rings scummy to me, as it did to mcmc.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 18, 2018, 09:19:40 am »
I think I'm still happy with my vote on Dylan. I am realizing Umbrage is quite an under scrutinized player today.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 17, 2018, 04:34:25 pm »
Iím caught up. I agree that datswans defensiveness has felt scummy. But Faustís post about scum wanting to not combat votes they receive is very true, it happens all the time. I donít like how quickly the Dylan wagon grew and for the reasons. It was almost a mix of scum reads and pressure votes to reveal his datswan scum tell.

I really want to vote lalight which means heís probably town.

Actually vote: silverspawn I donít like his Dylan vote and his jokey ďI donít like my own caseĒ comment is scummy.

I agree with all of this except the Dylan wagon, the Dylan wagon was fine.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 16, 2018, 05:17:53 pm »
As far as D1 cases go, not bad at all.

Dylan's case on Datswan, you mean?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 16, 2018, 11:37:44 am »
Ok, thatís L-2. Whatís our policy on claims?

Well, we should let Dylan claim if he gets to L-1. Hammering him without giving opportunity for this would be extremely scummy.

I am a fan of short Day 1s, though I am pretty much alone in this.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 16, 2018, 10:49:49 am »
I was coming here to vote for Dylan even before this recent activity. Vote: Dylan

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 15, 2018, 01:51:31 pm »
jeez. At some point you have to conclude the scum are doing it on purpose just for the memes.

It's often because he's legitimately good at being town!

On the other end of the spectrum, I'm never night killed, unless I'm a PR or something.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 15, 2018, 11:32:07 am »
We really have to give Faust a day 1 pass, at any rate. Letís not do scumís job for them. If heís alive tomorrowósomething that quite literally almost never happensóIíll reconsider.

This feels lining-up-future-mislynches scummy.

It isnít and it doesnít

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 15, 2018, 11:31:49 am »
Rereading now. Iím really happy to see that ďtwinclaimĒ is still in the vernacular. I was the original twinclaim that spawned the term (though I wasnít the one who coined it).

Anyway based on my reread Iím kind of OK with my current vote on Jimmm. Heís been just present enough to not get lurker suspicion but absent enough to not get much attention of any other kind. Heís been quick to vote and talk theory but hasnít really offered any reads or anything of substance.

On another note: Robz, why should Faust, or anyone, get a day 1 pass?

Well, Faust is arguably the strongest town player in our party, and scum kill him Night 1 in what seems like a majority of games. So he is sort of a special case.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« on: December 14, 2018, 08:15:01 pm »
We really have to give Faust a day 1 pass, at any rate. Letís not do scumís job for them. If heís alive tomorrowósomething that quite literally almost never happensóIíll reconsider.

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