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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 24, 2018, 12:15:01 am »
vote: IDPTG

Yeah, just realized that might happen.

I got hit by Robz's Vanilla shot N2

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 24, 2018, 12:12:09 am »
vote: Galzria

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 23, 2018, 11:16:21 pm »
I'm still at work for the next 45ish minutes. I'll read over this then.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 23, 2018, 10:46:56 pm »
I do find it likely that Jim would use his bulletproof N1 on Galzria. If he town read Galz, then Galz is an obvious choice as a popular night kill.

Oh wait, town!Galz couldn't have been NK'd by Eevee because he would have detected Eevee targeting him that night. So EFHW really really should be town.

Ascetic blocks Cops, does it not? I wouldn't be surprised if it also blocks Reflexive Cops (faust hasn't answered me).
I doubt it, but what if it did?

It means that Galz may have been the N2 NK target and still be telling the truth about his results.
Did you get an answer to this?

Faust said he won't answer.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 23, 2018, 02:40:37 pm »
Obviously I'd move to Galz to keep myself alive.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 23, 2018, 02:13:31 pm »
I believe that's L-2.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 23, 2018, 01:14:04 pm »
vote: DatSwan

Despite disagreeing with iguana's PoE, I do think there's a chance he's the scum in the Galz/Swan pairing and a scum!Vig is a little too dangerous here to risk. I also don't believe that Jim held his shot.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 23, 2018, 11:53:35 am »
I'm a bit behind, has IDP full claimed yet? He should do so.

Nope. Neither has Space or EFHW for that matter.

Iguana, do you still think there's at least one scum in Galz/DatSwan?

Definitely at least one.

What do you think of Galz's analysis of scum!DatSwan as a Vig?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 23, 2018, 11:24:17 am »
I'm a bit behind, has IDP full claimed yet? He should do so.

Nope. Neither has Space or EFHW for that matter.

Iguana, do you still think there's at least one scum in Galz/DatSwan?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 23, 2018, 10:39:09 am »
hi

Dude you are not even playing. At least vote or you should replace out.

Have you never played a game with Awaclus before?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 22, 2018, 10:43:56 pm »
I do find it likely that Jim would use his bulletproof N1 on Galzria. If he town read Galz, then Galz is an obvious choice as a popular night kill.

Oh wait, town!Galz couldn't have been NK'd by Eevee because he would have detected Eevee targeting him that night. So EFHW really really should be town.

Ascetic blocks Cops, does it not? I wouldn't be surprised if it also blocks Reflexive Cops (faust hasn't answered me).
I doubt it, but what if it did?

It means that Galz may have been the N2 NK target and still be telling the truth about his results.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 22, 2018, 09:53:01 pm »
I do find it likely that Jim would use his bulletproof N1 on Galzria. If he town read Galz, then Galz is an obvious choice as a popular night kill.

Oh wait, town!Galz couldn't have been NK'd by Eevee because he would have detected Eevee targeting him that night. So EFHW really really should be town.

Ascetic blocks Cops, does it not? I wouldn't be surprised if it also blocks Reflexive Cops (faust hasn't answered me).

Are you trying to build a case for me or EFHW being scum? What do you actually think? Who is your top scum read?

Neither at the moment. Guilty conscience much?

I'm still working that out.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 22, 2018, 08:57:19 pm »
I do find it likely that Jim would use his bulletproof N1 on Galzria. If he town read Galz, then Galz is an obvious choice as a popular night kill.

Oh wait, town!Galz couldn't have been NK'd by Eevee because he would have detected Eevee targeting him that night. So EFHW really really should be town.

Ascetic blocks Cops, does it not? I wouldn't be surprised if it also blocks Reflexive Cops (faust hasn't answered me).

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 22, 2018, 08:52:12 pm »
Quote
PPE: Iguana, what's your actual case on me?

Besides the amazing PoE like what is rarely seen in mafia?

You have a scummy, dodgy claim that gives you no accountability to show or prove anything that's happened this game.

You are frequently mislynched because you are misunderstood, but this game you've flown under the radar all game until now when I started tunneling you.

When you voted, you voted either for unpopular options that gained little traction and had no account, or you voted for mislynches. You helped push McMc over the line D2 right when I started to really push hard for Eevee to be lynched instead.

You have a suspiciously low level of interaction with the other suspect players in the game... namely DatSwan, Galzria, and Space. Two of those three are likely your partners and there's nothing to indicate that any of them are unlikely partners with you.

When I started pushing your case, several people who are likely to be scum started agitating and coming up with conspiracy theories about an EFHW/Iguana scum team in order to discredit me and therefore defend you, but without ever saying anything about you directly.

ALL OF THAT IS SCUMMY

It's not that great.

If you knew what it was, you'd understand why I'm hedging.

That's false. I'm almost never mislynched. Misunderstood, maybe, but lynched because of it? Never. Unless someone can prove me wrong, I've been lynched four times (if I weren't on my phone, I'd pull the game numbers): D1 in LOST Mafia (mislynch, wasn't very active), D1 in whichever one you modded (mislynch, again, wasn't very active), D1 some time in July 2017 (correct lynch, I had a terrible post that sealed my fate and town jumped on it), and D3 in the game where Robz found 2 scum with 2 Cop shots (correct lynch, replaced into a Cop with a guilty result on me).

We've established I'm not very good at this game. I had the lowest winrate on f.ds for a time and I still probably do (barring players with <3 games). My only victories have come after my mislynch. Arguably my very presence is anti-town.

If they were my partners, why would I have avoided talking to them especially when I've been making an effort to talk more?

They probably didn't say anything about me because they're not defending me...

Also, I don't think we've played enough together where you weren't scum to say you misread me "often".

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 22, 2018, 08:29:10 pm »
Well, Galz and DS COULD both be scum, and hydrad and Space COULD both be scum, but yeah it's not super likely.

Why is EFHW town again? I believe you, I just don't remember.

EFHW and I should both be LIKELY town because we both protected each other on N2 when Eevee likely tried to shoot someone and failed. If DatSwan is scum and Galzria is town, then Galzria is likely bulletproof (because he probably detected Jim targeting him N1) and Eevee could have then shot Galzria and then in that case EFHW & Iguana wouldn't be cleared. In that case, we still should be considered town just because we have both been very towny. If DatSwan is town, then his result that Jim didn't bulletproof anyone N1 is likely correct and we should be both towny and cleared by results.

This is ridiculous. You're claiming that I'm scum by PoE but you're town because you and EFHW claim to have protected each other? If I accept that you two targeted each other, where's the proof that they were both protective roles?

We blocked a kill. Also see my response to Space above.

You claim to have targeted two different people, so only one of you did any real blocking assuming that's the reason the N2 kill didn't go through. I never said you're both scum, just that claiming you're both town because a kill was blocked is absurd. You never addressed the possibility of only one of you being scum, just either both of you as town or both as scum.

Why are you so convinced EFHW is town?

Because either they shot her and I blocked it or they shot me and she blocked it. It takes two people to block a kill.

I disagree that it takes two people to block a kill, but I acknowledge I hadn't completely thought through the one scum/one town scenario for the two of you. A blocked kill suggests both town, but only if that really is why there was no kill. There are scenarios where the kill went elsewhere and was still blocked because, as I implied earlier, scum is probably lying.

PPE: Iguana, what's your actual case on me?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 22, 2018, 08:22:25 pm »
Your PoE case seems to revolve around everyone telling the truth....which definitely didn't happen.
You'll need to refute his answer to Space to be taken seriously. This has been the topic of pages of discussion already.

vote: IDPTG

His answer to Space has nothing to do with what I said there.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 22, 2018, 12:57:31 pm »
Your PoE case seems to revolve around everyone telling the truth....which definitely didn't happen.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 22, 2018, 12:55:43 pm »
Well, Galz and DS COULD both be scum, and hydrad and Space COULD both be scum, but yeah it's not super likely.

Why is EFHW town again? I believe you, I just don't remember.

EFHW and I should both be LIKELY town because we both protected each other on N2 when Eevee likely tried to shoot someone and failed. If DatSwan is scum and Galzria is town, then Galzria is likely bulletproof (because he probably detected Jim targeting him N1) and Eevee could have then shot Galzria and then in that case EFHW & Iguana wouldn't be cleared. In that case, we still should be considered town just because we have both been very towny. If DatSwan is town, then his result that Jim didn't bulletproof anyone N1 is likely correct and we should be both towny and cleared by results.

This is ridiculous. You're claiming that I'm scum by PoE but you're town because you and EFHW claim to have protected each other? If I accept that you two targeted each other, where's the proof that they were both protective roles?

We blocked a kill. Also see my response to Space above.

You claim to have targeted two different people, so only one of you did any real blocking assuming that's the reason the N2 kill didn't go through. I never said you're both scum, just that claiming you're both town because a kill was blocked is absurd. You never addressed the possibility of only one of you being scum, just either both of you as town or both as scum.

Why are you so convinced EFHW is town?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 22, 2018, 12:30:56 pm »
I'm ok with an IDP lynch. He is very different this game. He said he's some kind of enabler. It would be good to hear more about that.
Still hoping for an answer to this.

Not happening yet. I had my reasons for keeping it quiet and they're still valid.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 22, 2018, 12:26:25 pm »
I can confirm that I have received the benefit  iguana describes. I am the Liver. I also have a protective type role, and have been protecting iguana.

This is even more vague than my claim and I really don't see how it would verify EFHW as town. Any scum role that targets a person can look like protection as long as scum never NKs the person they're targeting. Iguana, what's your reason to think that EFHW is basically conf!town because of this?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 22, 2018, 12:23:22 pm »
I do find it likely that Jim would use his bulletproof N1 on Galzria. If he town read Galz, then Galz is an obvious choice as a popular night kill.

Oh wait, town!Galz couldn't have been NK'd by Eevee because he would have detected Eevee targeting him that night. So EFHW really really should be town.

Scum!Robz wouldn't have vanillaized scum's choice for who to lynch D2 (and McMc was clearly their top lynch choice, considering how much he was pushed. I should probably go get evidence for that assertion......) So Robz really should be town.

Awaclus got copped, so he really should be town.....

SO

We have Galz/DatSwan = probably one scum
Hydrad / Space = probably one scum by default because we are out of spots for both to be town and it's very unlikely that they both planned to claim neighbors and both are scum.
IDP = scum, because he's the only spot left to put scum somewhere.

This is the best bit. You've got two "probably" statements and one is even followed by more hypothetical analysis but you end up with a concrete conclusion. If any one of your earlier assumptions is is wrong, your "case" on me falls apart since it's built on nothing more than PoE.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 22, 2018, 12:19:23 pm »
Well, Galz and DS COULD both be scum, and hydrad and Space COULD both be scum, but yeah it's not super likely.

Why is EFHW town again? I believe you, I just don't remember.

EFHW and I should both be LIKELY town because we both protected each other on N2 when Eevee likely tried to shoot someone and failed. If DatSwan is scum and Galzria is town, then Galzria is likely bulletproof (because he probably detected Jim targeting him N1) and Eevee could have then shot Galzria and then in that case EFHW & Iguana wouldn't be cleared. In that case, we still should be considered town just because we have both been very towny. If DatSwan is town, then his result that Jim didn't bulletproof anyone N1 is likely correct and we should be both towny and cleared by results.

This is ridiculous. You're claiming that I'm scum by PoE but you're town because you and EFHW claim to have protected each other? If I accept that you two targeted each other, where's the proof that they were both protective roles?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« on: June 22, 2018, 12:17:09 pm »
I'd like to hear IDPTG's insight about Awaclus.

I missed something. With so little information in the set-up post, I haven't reread it as much as I normally do so I don't remember it as well. unvote

Idea went poof?

Yeah. Slips aren't slips when they're in the set-up post. I said I had a (1) reason.

What was this about exactly?

I thought there was a scumslip. Upon rereading, it wasn't.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 22, 2018, 12:26:53 am »
I'm ok with an IDP lynch. He is very different this game. He said he's some kind of enabler. It would be good to hear more about that.
Still hoping for an answer to this.

A little drunk atm. I'll decide if I want to answer when I'm sober.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 21, 2018, 03:03:34 pm »
My hesitation with Galz's claim is that I do think scum!Galz would be so bold as to create a claim that he knows town can't verify and attempt to talk his way out of it.

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