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Rules Questions / Re: Bureaucrat and Tunnel
« on: December 17, 2018, 09:09:29 am »
Putting a card on top of your deck is not the same as discarding it, so no, topdecking does not meet Tunnel's discarding requirement.
I managed to nab a copy on Saturday. My FLGS in the UK had only been given two copies byEsdeviumAsmodee UK despite requesting more; they'd already sold one and I took the second.
It sounds like supplies are very limited for some reason! /-8
If you play 2 capitals and a copper with 2 buys, then buy with $2 bonfire to trash them then buy a colony for the remaining Do you take the debt or not because you trashed it?
You could make a special rule for "This split pile is (3+X)/(3+X)" like with Curses or Victory cards, but man, we've already got enough rules like that, and the super-serious players only believe in X=2 games anyway...
In one topic you mention the 6 cards that would be replaced if Seaside got upgraded. Have you made lists like that for other expansions?No. Well, there's a post from a few years back where I go over things I'd change about expansions, but it didn't specifically consider the update pack scenario, and so was card changes that I can't actually make. When doing the new cards for the main set and Intrigue, it was a question, what about Seaside, and I thought a little about what I'd do. Prosperity could also improve, but Seaside needed it more and couldn't get it, so I didn't worry about Prosperity.
Alchemy just wouldn't be worth the effort; I could spend months getting a nice large set out of it - changing too much to have an update pack - that some people beg for but which many would automatically have no interest in. It is trivial to find a better project than this.
For Hinterlands the changes I want are trouble, they mostly involve making cards slightly worse, and I can't just make the simplified/weaker versions because the update pack that would have to exist would be a truly awful product. I don't want to replace the cards with new ones but that's the best I could do.
And then, Mixed Box and Dark Ages don't have so much to fix. Well overpay is too wordy of a mechanic but uh replacing it completely doesn't sound like a good project when whatever it was could go into a new expansion instead.
One thing I didn't consider at the time that might have been possible is a mixed update pack - seven new cards that were spread around between expansions. I haven't put in any work there either, I just see now that it might have been an option.
I have the 2nd edition of both the base game and Intrigue. I understand that each of these have about 6 cards that were not in the 1st editions. Is there anyway to purchase the original 6 cards in each set without having to purchase the entire 1st edition?I just bought a 1st edition of Base and Intrigue on ebay. They were around the cost of an expansion, and having the extra base cards nice.
Thanks
That being said, the removed cards kinda suck so no reason to get them outside of collectorism.
But that probably goes for a lot of people. Especially amongst us here.
I've got them in my pure Norwegian set, but probably just because 2nd edition isn't released in Norwegian.
I'm glad I have them, though, being a notorious completist...
Formula Dé HHHNNNNGGG
I've got most of the tracks there as well. Not those from the Ludodélire days, but everything from both the Descartes days (Formula Dé) and from the Asmodée days (Formula D). 35 tracks for Formula Dé and 14 for Formula D. 49 tracks… Anyone has the really old ones? I'd love to have them!
I have the 2nd edition of both the base game and Intrigue. I understand that each of these have about 6 cards that were not in the 1st editions. Is there anyway to purchase the original 6 cards in each set without having to purchase the entire 1st edition?I just bought a 1st edition of Base and Intrigue on ebay. They were around the cost of an expansion, and having the extra base cards nice.
Thanks
That being said, the removed cards kinda suck so no reason to get them outside of collectorism.
But that probably goes for a lot of people. Especially amongst us here.
I've got them in my pure Norwegian set, but probably just because 2nd edition isn't released in Norwegian.
I'm glad I have them, though, being a notorious completist...
Formula Dé HHHNNNNGGG
I have the 2nd edition of both the base game and Intrigue. I understand that each of these have about 6 cards that were not in the 1st editions. Is there anyway to purchase the original 6 cards in each set without having to purchase the entire 1st edition?I just bought a 1st edition of Base and Intrigue on ebay. They were around the cost of an expansion, and having the extra base cards nice.
Thanks
That being said, the removed cards kinda suck so no reason to get them outside of collectorism.
I'm not about to buy 4,000 sleeves and my group is making it work.I don't understand this part, I think it's vice versa. If you don't sleeve, lack of wear on the cards will mark the new cards anyway; the backs mark them, the lack of wear also marks them. If you sleeve, only the backs being different marks them. Well, if cards stay in sleeves long enough, lack of sleeve wear also marks cards; I see this with the prototype.
How would you even start solving it? I haven't graduated high school yet, but I know at least up through Calc II, so I figurde I would be qualified to post in this thread.
But still, I have no idea how to even start.
You probably have no chance (I certainly didn't).
https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-find-the-positive-integer-solutions-to-frac-x-y+z-+-frac-y-z+x-+-frac-z-x+y-4QuoteYou may have seen such meme images before. They are always pure click-bait garbage: “95% of MIT graduates couldn’t solve this!”, where “this” is some inane, or ill-defined, or trivial brain teaser.
This one is not. The meme is a clever, or wicked, joke. Roughly 99.999995% of the people don’t stand a chance at solving it, and that includes a good number of mathematicians at leading universities who just don’t happen to be number theorists. It is solvable, yes, but it's really, genuinely hard.
Oh man. That was actually a brilliant explanation. I now know more about elliptic curves than I ever had before.
I tried getting rid of the denominators and gave up after seeing the resulting mess.
I didn't ask you to scream at anyone or contemplate anything. Those are your words and your definition of being pissed about something, not mine.You said I should be pissed, meaning I hadn't adequately demonstrated pissed-ness to you, meaning you wanted my post to contain words of pissed-ness. Which would then be directed at entities I was pissed at, who happen to be entities I work for/with.
But hey, I misunderstood/mischaracterized something you said and now you've done the same to me. Call it even?
No, that is not what I meant. As I've explained, all I wanted in asking you to be pissed was to not make light of the issue, which is what it seemed to me that you were doing. No ranting, to angry words, no public castigation of anyone necessary. You said you weren't making light of it. I said I believe you and I'm asking you to believe my explanation in return. Either way though, thanks for the amazing game and farewell.
Peasant stands out as one of the cards that favour the better player the most in my sample of logs.
If you usually beat your opponent in 60% of the games, you'll win 63.5% of the Peasant boards.
(Page also favours the better player but not as much, Chapel on the other hand makes the weaker player win more than expected.)
What a bummer... I live in Norway, and even though the product description says that it ships to Norway, it changes at check-out. Now it says that it doesn’t.There is a source of English copies in Europe. I don't know where it is but I would check around.
But being «Lost in the Woods» isn’t an artifact. It’s a state that Fool finds himself in. Technically, it works like an Artifact in the game, but doesn’t it have to be an object to be called an Artifact?
It needs to have the Artifact type to be called Artifact.
Indeed. Lost in the Woods could be an artifact if Donald had wanted; though it's safe to say that at that point it would have likely been given a different name. The point is that there's no functional or rules difference between Lost in the Woods and Key. And having Lost in the Woods be an artifact, rather than a state; would have helped clarify that it works differently than the other states; in that there's only 1 copy which can be taken from other players.
But being «Lost in the Woods» isn’t an artifact. It’s a state that Fool finds himself in. Technically, it works like an Artifact in the game, but doesn’t it have to be an object to be called an Artifact?
It needs to have the Artifact type to be called Artifact.
Am I the only person worried that jokes about "getting the Horn" will grow old quite quickly while playing Renaissance?
This is not a phrase I'm familiar with, but I'm too scared to Google it.
For what it's worth, I'm personally very glad that Renaissance has Artifacts. They might be my favorite mechanic in the set; a cool new type of player interaction.
They really aren't new though, are they? Nocturne had States; and Lost in the Woods especially is just an artifact by a different name.
Interesting!
I'd substitute a related alternative question: how come Fortress isn't a Reaction when Tunnel is? (-8
Tunnel has the argument that it is revealed from a hidden place (it could be buried in the discard pile). But yeah, we really don't have a consistent definition of "Reaction"; there are no rules attached to it. Donald has said that the reason for the type is the color, and the reason for the color is to make it stand out in your hand.
1) The rulebook says:QuoteA token [on the Coffers side of your mat] can be removed in your Buy phase, before buying anything, for +$.
Does that have the same "any time" implication that Villagers have? Like, if I play a Capitalist Vassal during the Buy phase and he turns over a Storyteller, can I spend Coffers at that moment in order to get Storyteller to draw more cards?
2) The rulebooks say that after you "buy something," you can no longer play treasures or spend Coffers. Now that you can play Black Market in various ways during the buy phase, you can technically buy something at a time that would normally be "in the middle of" playing treasures. Does buying something from the Black Market this way serve to prevent you from playing any more treasures? Or is it only "normal" buys that do that?