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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: June 17, 2023, 10:26:15 pm »

I tried for a few failed attempts to defeat a gleeok. Will try again soon, because I feel like I’m getting towards the upper end of how powerful I can get.

I also defeated the same Gloom hands / phantom Ganon to save the lost woods. Mostly I did so by using a freezing weapon that kept all the hands frozen while my party members did much of the damage necessary. I defeated a second one out in the world, which was easier without the confined space of the lost woods one. That one didn’t come with a phantom Ganon though. I wonder what makes him appear or not after the hands.

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: June 16, 2023, 12:57:42 am »

Yeah I had its existence spoiled for me also, but there were some details I didn't know about it that make it cooler than I knew. Also, once you know about the existence of that, this video is no longer a spoiler, and is the greatest thing imaginable:

https://www.reddit.com/r/tearsofthekingdom/comments/146vj3d/autobots_roll_out/.

Also, I don't think this is a spoiler, but apparently you can compose music with the right devices, and people have done some amazing stuff:
https://twitter.com/bran8bit/status/1667539615413334017
https://twitter.com/noteabletony/status/1668739561722200067

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: June 15, 2023, 03:27:49 pm »

Got the master sword! Don't consider that a spoiler, because you should have assumed you'd get it as some point in the game, even if you hadn't gotten to any of they story stuff telling you to get it.

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: June 11, 2023, 11:57:45 pm »

Well second (Zora) temple done, and man was I disappointed, compared to the Rito one. It felt extremely short and easy. Never had to stop and think about where to go next, or to figure out the layout of the rooms and whatnot. The boss was good, or at least ok.

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: June 11, 2023, 09:57:20 am »

What exactly in the game draws people to do the Wind Temple first? We did it first, and so has everyone I’ve talked to and multiple mentions of it online as being “first”. With the order being technically open to players’ whims, did I not notice something that drew me that direction before the others?

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: June 11, 2023, 12:15:18 am »

My playing of this game so far has been heavily influenced by my four-year-old, who gets to watch for 15 minutes before bed if she gets ready quickly enough. So I've done all of the towers and Dragon's tears since she loves those, but only the Wind Temple and not much of the Depths since it's too scary for her.

Funny, our 4-year-old watched his first bit of us playing this today. My wife had taken some damage and he kept saying "mommy you're missing 2 hearts; you need 2 more hearts".

Overall I think it's great and a lot of fun, but I don't think it's touching BotW in terms of sheer awe-factor. I'm sure there are some people out there who are playing TotK without having played BotW and it would be really interesting to know how differently the game plays for them. But like, for the most part, I've been here before. It's just about seeing what's different this time around, so I feel motivated to check out the places where I expect a lot of new stuff happening (towns, stables, the sky islands, the depths), but I'm not feeling a real drive to scour every corner of the map to see what's there any more. I think the criticisms from before release that the game was going to be nothing more than $70 DLC are unfair, since there really is a ton going on in terms of story, side quests, etc., but it feels maybe more like BotW 1.5.

Yeah, despite this game probably being technically better than BOTW in almost every way, you nailed it with the phrase "awe-factor". I had never experienced anything close to BOTW in terms of gameplay, and TOTK never really had a chance to top that. It's still enough that I don't think we're going to be sick of it any time soon, and we'll still end up doing the full 100% thing that we did for BOTW.

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: June 10, 2023, 03:32:32 am »

Well just ran into yet another frustration as a result of a poor game design... spent well over an hour doing a quest in the depths, only to eventually give up out of frustration and look it up. Turns out it's a place we just weren't supposed to be yet, and have to come back later after doing another side quest. Related to the "Mystery in the Depths" sidequest that you get after completing the first dungeon:

While exploring the depths, we randomly came across a statue of a woman, and noticed she was looking directly at another identical statue. We remembered Josha's sidequest which says that there are a series of statues, each looking at the next until the last one is looking at a special building/temple. So we followed from statue to statue, on and on. Found a couple lightroots along the way. Eventually got to a statue and could NOT find the statue it was looking at. Walked in a straight line to where it was looking a really long way. Went back to the statue a couple times to make sure we had the trajectory correct. Made sure the statue wasn't looking at any interesting building nearby... it was in a mine where there were some helpful constructs, but not looking at anything in particular. So it turns out that these statues are for another quest which is only unlocked after doing A Mystery in the Depths. The last statue we found really was the last one, and had we already unlocked this other sidequest, something interesting would have happened at the final location.

We did know (or at least my wife did), that these statues looked different than the ones in Josha's mural, and the one we had found originally as part of the getting the Camera quest. But still, they were a series of statues that clearly were supposed to be leading somewhere.

I don't know if it's the same one, but I found a series of statues that eventually lead to a dead end, with a yiga clan member saying that the statues usually lead to an abandoned mine, but this one seemed to be buried somehow (then attacking you, of course). Got there before unlocking the Mystery in the Depths sidequest, but after a quick look around, decided I was missing some sort of ability to proceed - the game had already suggested it could hold things back from you, based on the paraglider *not* being compulsory.

There seem to be a handful of such trails, and I am currently doing them in the suggested order by Josha. Good to know you *have* to. It's funny because I started the Mystery in the Depths quest because Robbie implies he will give you the sensor "ability" afterwards, but turns out you unlock something arguably much more important first.

We just came across that exact spot randomly tonight. Not through following statues, but by finding the second-to-last and last statue in that line directly. We knew from that last info we'd gotten related to the other quest that it wasn't the statues we were looking for (yet). On a related note, I do really love the interactions with the Yiga Clan in this game. Much more interesting than how they were in BOTW; to the point where some of them will actually give you helpful information that would normally come from other random friendly characters, before turning on you and fighting.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Question Re: Highwayman and COTR

« on: June 08, 2023, 01:52:14 am »

"Playing a card" has a specifically defined meaning in Dominion, and it's not defined as "any act that causes a card to be put into the in-play area". It's kind of like discarding in that way. Not everything that causes a card to go into the discard pile is "discarding" that card (see Messenger, and how it doesn't trigger Tunnel).

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: June 07, 2023, 12:04:43 am »

Well just ran into yet another frustration as a result of a poor game design... spent well over an hour doing a quest in the depths, only to eventually give up out of frustration and look it up. Turns out it's a place we just weren't supposed to be yet, and have to come back later after doing another side quest. Related to the "Mystery in the Depths" sidequest that you get after completing the first dungeon:

While exploring the depths, we randomly came across a statue of a woman, and noticed she was looking directly at another identical statue. We remembered Josha's sidequest which says that there are a series of statues, each looking at the next until the last one is looking at a special building/temple. So we followed from statue to statue, on and on. Found a couple lightroots along the way. Eventually got to a statue and could NOT find the statue it was looking at. Walked in a straight line to where it was looking a really long way. Went back to the statue a couple times to make sure we had the trajectory correct. Made sure the statue wasn't looking at any interesting building nearby... it was in a mine where there were some helpful constructs, but not looking at anything in particular. So it turns out that these statues are for another quest which is only unlocked after doing A Mystery in the Depths. The last statue we found really was the last one, and had we already unlocked this other sidequest, something interesting would have happened at the final location.

We did know (or at least my wife did), that these statues looked different than the ones in Josha's mural, and the one we had found originally as part of the getting the Camera quest. But still, they were a series of statues that clearly were supposed to be leading somewhere.

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: June 05, 2023, 02:33:41 pm »

Can someone help me understand something about the story without spoilers? I have found all dragon tears, so I have basically the first 14 or so videos filled out (except I think for 1 that's missing between tear 8 and tear 9 or something). Spoilers for any story/videos that you get from that:

Ok in "A Show of Fealty", Ganondorf visits the Zonai throne room (peacefully) and talks to Rauru. After he leaves, Zelda says she doesn't trust him, and Rauru says he knows he has bad intentions, but wants to keep him close. I'm very confused by this for 2 reasons:

1) This is after "The Gerudo Assault", in which Ganondorf attempts to conquer Hyrule using Molduga. Did they not know that he was behind that attack? Although Rauru and Zelda suspect he has evil intentions, they aren't treating him or talking about him like someone who literally just attacked their kingdom.

2) Doesn't Zelda know exactly who Ganondorf is, having come from the future? Isn't this (for Zelda) shortly after after she spent 100 years fighting Ganon and holding him at bay? I've been assuming that Calamity Ganon from BOTW was Ganondorf; is that not accurate? Zelda sure isn't acting like the evil she just spent 100 years fighting against walked into the room. Even aside from her encounter with Calamity Ganon, she met Ganondorf / The Demon King under Hyrule before she time-traveled; and she confirms in another video shortly after that she knows the evil being under Hyrule was Ganondorf.


I was just really confused by that video.

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: June 01, 2023, 02:02:02 pm »

Related to the complaint multiple of us have had with how they didn't make it obvious when something needed more progression before being possible... a friend of mine just told me that last night he got to the Wind Temple, but hadn't yet talked to Tulin at all. Spend literally hours trying to complete it before finally giving up and looking up a guide, only to find out that it wasn't at all possible. Now has to spend a long time doing the very long path to get back there after finding Tulin.

I am assuming the teleport spot doesnt activate if you get there without Tulin, but even then, there is a shrine most of the way up there. Shouldn't be too bad.

But yes, it's part of the reason I am focusing on the main quest a lot.

You can activate the teleport spot, but it doesn't help because Tulin won't follow you when you teleport. Same is probably true for teleporting to the shrine.

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: June 01, 2023, 12:44:46 pm »

Related to the complaint multiple of us have had with how they didn't make it obvious when something needed more progression before being possible... a friend of mine just told me that last night he got to the Wind Temple, but hadn't yet talked to Tulin at all. Spend literally hours trying to complete it before finally giving up and looking up a guide, only to find out that it wasn't at all possible. Now has to spend a long time doing the very long path to get back there after finding Tulin.

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: May 31, 2023, 01:39:23 am »

Finished the main Rito questline, got back to Lookout Landing. There's what seems like a short quest there that will draw you into a definitely-not-short bit of exploring. Don't be like me and try to finish it just before going to bed.

Was it the Royal Secret Passage? If so, then we were indeed like you and now it's past 1:30 am and I have work in the morning. Like really, how long could a cave possibly take to explore?

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: May 30, 2023, 08:20:54 pm »

Looking forward to completing the main story and reading that spoiler! Though at the rate we're going, that could be a long time from now.

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: May 30, 2023, 02:43:27 pm »

Finished the main Rito questline, got back to Lookout Landing. There's what seems like a short quest there that will draw you into a definitely-not-short bit of exploring. Don't be like me and try to finish it just before going to bed.

In other news, I systematically forget about ascend being a thing.

Just got to the start of the wind temple for the Rito questline; the first one we've gotten to. Should finish it tongiht.

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: May 28, 2023, 09:46:52 am »

Didn't uncover spoilers past the first one for that post because I still haven't done a single dungeon/temple. We did go to the giant storm area in the sky and are now in the middle of the thing that you do there.

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Rules Questions / Re: Are Dominion cards vegan?

« on: May 26, 2023, 10:14:26 am »

I thought my response was just a clever pun, and hope it didn't come across as ridicule.

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Rules Questions / Re: Are Dominion cards vegan?

« on: May 25, 2023, 12:05:52 pm »

Depends on the kingdom*.


*taxonomic kingdom

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: May 24, 2023, 12:24:35 am »

One minor complaint... I really miss how BOTW had a very distinct color of light for undiscovered shrines. Now instead the top part of the light goes away when you discover/complete a shrine, but the door is still the same color. A few different times I thought I'd spotted a new shrine in the distance only to look closer and discover it was one I already had done. In BOTW, there was a great feeling of excitement whenever you'd catch a glimpse of that red glow for a new shrine.

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: May 23, 2023, 04:24:24 pm »

11 days in, and we've almost played every day.  I think 10 out of the 11 days. That's with a full-time job and a kid to take care of after work, so only playing starting 8:00 each night. Taking turns with my wife, playing together, as we do all such games.

Still barely scratched the surface of what we'll eventually do. 1 extra stamina wheel and 6 total hearts. Haven't been to the depths in the past several days, even. I was very excited about finding treasure maps, reminding me of the great times with Windwaker.

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: May 16, 2023, 12:23:23 am »

Oh man I just discovered The Depths. So yeah, insane. Mind boggling that that much map space / content can exist. I'm completely intimidated by the amount of time this is going to take.

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: May 15, 2023, 10:03:08 am »

My initial biggest complaint is something that I think doesn't bother me as much now that I've gotten used to the idea. Very earliest game spoilers only:

When I found out that Shrines and Koroks existed still, in the same form, I was annoyed. I knew that assets and physics would be re-used from BOTW, but I had hoped the main structure of the game would differ more. I had fun hunting down all the koroks in BOTW, but that doesn't mean I want to go do that same thing again. It would have been easy to replace it with a different sort of collectable, which had different ways of obtaining them. And with Shrines, I thought there would be an entirely new way of doing those sorts of things. A different way of obtaining more hearts and stamina. Like I said it doesn't bug me as much now that I've had a couple days of playing with that knowledge, but it's still not quite what I was hoping for.

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: May 14, 2023, 05:33:26 pm »

Basically, the game doesn’t always make it clear if something is possible or not. You can waste a lot of time trying to do something that’s actually impossible (or impossible until later), but you get so close to succeeding that it seems like you could do it if you just do better.

Yeah, I think this is really the main problem I'm having. I just spent half an hour trying to find a clever way to avoid dying from fall damage in a particular shrine, only to give up and eventually discover that if I had continued the main plot, I would eventually get the paraglider making the problem trivially solvable. I doubt it's possible within reason to do the shrine I was trying to do without the paraglider, but it's not obvious that it's not possible, and it wasn't obvious to me that the paraglider would even be in the game at all, and the game had turned me loose so I thought it was time to go exploring.

That's the specific thing I was talking about! Another friend of mine also spent a while trying to get through it before giving up. While I haven't gotten far enough to get the paraglider, it was already spoiled for me this morning that it existed in the game. It's an odd change from BOTW where you had everything you'd ever need (other than just getting stronger versions of the same stuff) when you finished the tutorial. I actually like that there's apparently more progression than in BOTW, but it should have made it very clear that you weren't yet equipped for that place.

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Other Games / Re: Tears of the Kingdom

« on: May 14, 2023, 02:51:53 pm »

I had a somewhat similar frustration to your #3. Basically, the game doesn’t always make it clear if something is possible or not. You can waste a lot of time trying to do something that’s actually impossible (or impossible until later), but you get so close to succeeding that it seems like you could do it if you just do better.

With the ice wall, I saw someone else struggle with the same thing. Not sure if it’s the same place or not, but when I got to an ice wall near one of the intro shrines, I found a small non-ice path between ice on the wall which I could climb.

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Other Games / Tears of the Kingdom

« on: May 12, 2023, 01:03:15 pm »

So who's started it? I took the morning off work so my wife and I could play while our son was at school. But now have to wait until tonight for more.