I'm ready to lynch Diedre.
I have to admit that that response did sound actually quite scummy.
Diedre, who are your top two scumreads?
Also the night kills have seemed like they are coming from newbies to me. I don't get why you kill silver last night. I was actually going to be ready to lynch him today, because I didn't really like his claim.
I think SA just has to be scum. They just seem so scummy.
I agree. Calamitas maaaaayy be scum, but he took no action last night, and his weird claim.
Diedre is another vt? He could be scum.
Of the vts, here's what I think:
SA
Diedre
RR
Urgh, it's really late and I still haven't solved anything.
I really do think that diedre looks scummy. As well as the absence, it's the sheer noobiness of it all. Especially since he said Haddock had told him stuff -- I've literally just been introduced to forum mafia by Haddock and shown the ropes, and he's way better that diedre would make out. I think it's got to be at least partially an act. There's other stuff, too, like "Good luck everybody" at the start, where I think most of us would wish "Good luck town".
Here are my likelihoods for each of the six possible pairwise interactions coming from within a scum team (note that this would hold even if we have a three-person team).
diedre-mail-mi -- Middling-high? Nothing ultra non-partnery, several things that could be explained by pre-planned conversation.
diedre-RR -- Low, #546 and #591 especially.
diedre-Calamitas -- 2 newbies; Low, pretty meh, but with a slight edge of antagonistic wrt the claims.
mail-mi-RR -- 0 newbies; Middling. Mail-mi responds less to RR than to Calamitas or Diedre. Oddly few interactions?
mail-mi-Calamitas -- Plausible? They actually seem to be on the same page in their interactions, not accusing each other directly. Hmm.
RR-Calamitas -- Low, really relaxed.
Diedre is still my preferred lynch. Mail-mi is second, but I think Calamitas overtakes RR on the marginal 4th place, because mail-mi-Calamitas feels like a surprisingly plausible pairing, based on their interactions.
I can post my text notes of every significant interaction, if anyone would find that useful, but it's more than 100 lines of plaintext, so I thought I'd better ask first :-)
PR = power role, VT = Vanilla Townie.I'll propose a claim order, then.
Diedre
Roadrunner
SpaceAnemone
Mail-mi
Calamitas
Gkrieg
Iguana
Must claim: PR or VT.
If PR, share what you think is best to share about your role. Probably, you should share any results that may make someone else more or less likely to be scum.
Don't share: Any info that will help scum kill us better, obviously.
We're not likely to get much from this, but we're not likely to lose much either.
I need to know what is PR and VT first before claiming, right?
You are supposed to claim whether you have a PR or not and share potentially helpful knowledge in the former case. If its pro-town to hide information you might have gathered by using your PR hide it, if it's helpful share it.
vote: diedre for delaying his claim. This is probably not as scummy as usual since it's only about softclaiming, but still...
Could you explain a noob what is IC?My lynchpool now is: Gkrieg, RR and Calamitas.Anyway, which posts changed your read on Mail-mi to make him town?
Could you explain your theory behind lynching gkrieg, please? Is there a genuine plausible role combination in which he's still likely to be evil? My suggestion of traitor vig (or some other kind of scum vig) didn't seem to gain any traction. He's the only person taking credit for the Seprix kill, and Seprix was scum...
I have no idea that Mail-mi is.
I was you doubt about Gkrieg... being too active. Now I am more inclined to say he is scum.
Who is giving gkrieg the credit for killing Seprix? My vote worth the same as him.
IC stands for Innocent Child. It's a role in forum mafia that basically lets someone prove they're definitely town. I haven't read any games where it's used to do that, but EFHW was one in this game till she was killed. More generally, people here just call someone IC when they're declared to be town beyond all reasonable doubt. Gkrieg is now in this position for this game.
The reason for his "IC" rating here is that he says he killed Seprix N1. Nobody on the town side believes that scum could make two night kills (NKs) in one night, so either that has to have come from a vigilante (which is usually a town role), or from a serial killer (SK, which is an independent non-town, non-mafia role). There is also an assumption that we couldn't possibly have scum plus traitor plus SK all at once because the game wouldn't be balanced. That may be something to re-visit given that Iguana has said he's got a really powerful town role, but even if that's the case, it doesn't make Gkrieg one of the mafia.
As for Mail-mi, if you're not sure about him, I think he belongs in your lynchpool at this stage, unless you have a good argument for not putting him there? Your readings on RR and Calamitas were really solidly town before, and yet they're now in your pool when Mail-mi isn't... I just find that quite hard to believe without some backing-up through posts and examples.
I'll propose a claim order, then.
Diedre
Roadrunner
SpaceAnemone
Mail-mi
Calamitas
Gkrieg
Iguana
Must claim: PR or VT.
If PR, share what you think is best to share about your role. Probably, you should share any results that may make someone else more or less likely to be scum.
Don't share: Any info that will help scum kill us better, obviously.
We're not likely to get much from this, but we're not likely to lose much either.
I am back! (after being prod and after forum downtime)Gkrieg is basically an IC.
How I am supposed to post if the forum does not stay on?
And people (me included) lynched a town again! We all suck!
With 7 players left and only one scum dead, I am hopeless.
My lynchpool now is: Gkrieg, RR and Calamitas.
What are your reasons for me and RR beeing on that list?
I am back! (after being prod and after forum downtime)
How I am supposed to post if the forum does not stay on?
And people (me included) lynched a town again! We all suck!
With 7 players left and only one scum dead, I am hopeless.
My lynchpool now is: Gkrieg, RR and Calamitas.
The forum's been flaky for all of us, hence my delayed post from last night. You just have to keep trying :-)
Anyway, which posts changed your read on Mail-mi to make him town?
Could you explain your theory behind lynching gkrieg, please? Is there a genuine plausible role combination in which he's still likely to be evil? My suggestion of traitor vig (or some other kind of scum vig) didn't seem to gain any traction. He's the only person taking credit for the Seprix kill, and Seprix was scum...
Diedre- He/she has to be town. Reluctant town? Maybe. But town.
Gkrieg- The evidence is for gkrieg being aligned with the town.
Silverspawn: See gkrieg
Roadrunner: Town
Iguanaiguana: Town
Calamitas- lynchpool
Mail-mi- lynchpool
Chairs- lynchpool
SA: lynchpool
Real life Mafia is actually so much worse than non-real life Mafia.
There's a game where the only setup is 1 Cop, 11 VTs and 2 Mafia Goons and it's considered balanced. So forum mafia is actually easier
Ppe 2
I just figured out... Mafia games are not for me. You are trying to fing clues that does not exist!!
These games were made to play IRL!
"If you do not post much, you are scum." Come on!
People are trying to lynch me for no reason at all! I do not have the entire day to read/writing posts!
How could I explain myself?! I already did, but people turned theirs votes on me.
I am sorry... Maybe I am just bored. I am like teamlyle now.It's fineI really don't care anymore
It's fine
hmm not really
diedre is copying his reads but he is pretty new. it could be legit.
SA is going in a pretty different direction. I think that's a non-partner tell.
for now I'd say we should lynch in {diedre, gkrieg}.
Gkrieg has been questioning everything this game. I don't recall him doing that normally
To compensate for the forum downtime, today's deadline will be extended by 24 hours.Todays deadline?
Anyway, the new deadline is 3rd of September, isn't it?
Since his role was colored red on the flip, he was mafia aligned."Ah well, never liked him anyway."[/i]
Nicely done, Haddock! I am loving your flavor texts!
Was Seprix a Mafia traitor or a Town traitor?
"Ah well, never liked him anyway."[/i]
