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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 05:43:42 pm »
I think I remember Galzria being lurky as town but having some townish flavor when they did come around.  I kind of have a bad watched-pot-won't-boil-right-vibe about the punishment initiative, seems like the sort that will become sort of harder to sort if you get out of sorts

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 05:35:55 pm »
D1 is the best day for the totally opposite reasons you're spouting chairs, it has the most complex dayplay, it's analagous to a chess midgame

This is helpful. I suck at chess and D1.

Hmm.. I fail to see the link between this and chess. Unless you have a version of chess where paying attention to your opponent's shoelaces or the weather outside has as much bearing on the game state as the pieces on the board, and where nobody's going to tell you what extra details were in any way important until later.
If you're one of those "no one ever plays better than random at mafia" misanthropes I need to reload my day gun

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 04:22:23 pm »
shoot: MiX

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 04:17:09 pm »
Does that mean I'm town? Neat.
Shoot: MiX

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 04:16:08 pm »
My heart desires a lot of things... reading through a bunch of old games on my vacation day is not exactly one of them... ;)

I will say your posts do seem in character for you from other non mafia posts I've read, so there's that, which feels towny.

I am trying to hone in on some non RVS D1 vote, but while I have some ideas, it's still at my usual elusive D1 distance...
Could you explain why emulating my offtopic posting closely would make me town in your view?

Honestly, it's a small thing, but as I've never played with you, I'm trying to just find something to get any kind of bearing. Are you saying it's wrong?

I hear everyone on D1 - clearly it's something I need to get better at. Not sure it's going to happen this game, though.

I would be of the opinion it's wrong.  Playing mafia is different from using English to discuss stuff, but when you roll scum you win if you play as little mafia as possible, so the more someone feels like an out of game players the more likely they are to be scum.   I try to be pretty conversational as both alignments just because mafia is more fun that way (?) People win more if they're having fun rationalize (?) So anyway mostly I would place very small weight on it, but if I had to pick a direction, I would say seeming conversational is scum indicative.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 03:30:12 pm »
I can see that pops, but given half the games we play are RMMs, early exiles tend to be more important than they look at first.

In this game it shouldn't matter that much. This is a... 4 mislynch game? Which is I think 1 more than the usual.

I still really like D1 as it's the only day I can scumhunt without needing to care about PRs.
Yeah in a normal game a d1 exile doesn't affect nightplay much because it's usually a goon and roles like rolecop have less meaning that doctor or cop

In role madness exiling mafia d1 means you didn't exile and/or out cops and doctors do to the density so that's a big nightplay impact.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 03:12:28 pm »
My heart desires a lot of things... reading through a bunch of old games on my vacation day is not exactly one of them... ;)

I will say your posts do seem in character for you from other non mafia posts I've read, so there's that, which feels towny.

I am trying to hone in on some non RVS D1 vote, but while I have some ideas, it's still at my usual elusive D1 distance...
Could you explain why emulating my offtopic posting closely would make me town in your view?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 03:07:25 pm »
im drunk so im going to not play hearthstone so i don't buy the gold grubbers, but I am about play some m tg

Pops, where are you located? I am totally down for daytime drunk mafia because lockdown has erased all sense of time in our house.

I'm I remembering you use "she", but don't care much about pronouns?
Apparently drunkpops cares more than soberpops.

I'm on hiatus from employment due to relatively high infection rates in my area and am kind of leading a lifestyle that transcends timezones for the most part.


There is actually some clusters of data showing lots of town losses for day one scum exiles, but only in larger games.  I think it's correlation, not causation, though.  The alignment of the player everyone through their vote down on doesn't matter that much, what matters is the multitude of impressions about everyone in the whole playerlist.  In my philosophy.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 01:01:59 pm »
D1 is the best day for the totally opposite reasons you're spouting chairs, it has the most complex dayplay, it's analagous to a chess midgame

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 12:32:23 pm »
I can link as many towngames or scumgames of mine as your heart desires if your heart desires them

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 10:31:14 am »
pls feel scumread in a feminine way

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 10:30:28 am »
joth is town i dont remember you asking ur eyeball is a drunken mess

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 10:10:59 am »
im drunk so im going to not play hearthstone so i don't buy the gold grubbers, but I am about play some m tg

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 10:10:20 am »
I like this pops. Seems town, or wants to be town. That's a completely different pops from the one that dayvigs 2 IRL days in.

What do you think of joth? What do you think of people in general, you were talking a lot in general.

Vote: Space for being anti-funny

Meh, Vote: Galz for being anti-space... when am I ever successfully pro-funny? Ask Didds or LL whether they remember me being humorous in person...

You're funny sometimes. It might not be NAI to be unfunny, although I have no idea what Galzria meant by it, what post was he referencing?

Honestly I'd like a clarification from him.
How dare you Mix.  The zombie game didn't require that much effort, with the wincon being somewhat town adjacent and my play being somewhat obscure here.  But new game and you should not be townreading just because I don't have a dayvig, I doubt this setup even has dayvigs.  I have done like, nothing this game I couldn't emulate as scum.

Tell me exactly what you are (pretending to) townread.

Like

iZombie allowed me to openwolf for specific reasons but I woudln't do that in singleball

And this seems like willful ignorance.


I guess Didds agrees with you
but like she always seems scummy
There were many zombie meeting sessions about how scummy Didds was but I think she flipped town that game.
otoh I think you're more authentic than this if you're town I feel paranoid you anticipated other positive reactions to my A-type mafia personality townplay and want to townread the thing you're gonna NK anyway, but I don't think I've done anything actually evidencing my alignment, only had healthful style

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 10:01:14 am »
Good morning!!

Swowl, the D1 recipe is everything. I ❤️ you.

MiX, I’m laughing at your pops dayvig reference. Definitely a different pops here. I dig it. What are you thinking about chairs? (Other than the obvious mutual admiration?)  What about Galz?

Hi Joth! You and I are good. Thanks for asking.

Space is for sure funny! It’s  a dry observational humor mixed with genuine charm.

Scola, friend, how are you? I’m not finding you scummy! That’s good news!!

Pops, hi! I don’t know what a goldgrubber is, but it reminds me of gradegrubbers which is what I call students looking for extra points for anything well after the time for earning points has passed. And gradegrubbing is indeed, a trap. The setup talk is hard for me to grok, plus I love the idea of boxing anyone, so I’m totally here for the new and improved Ctown D1 recipe.
Goldgrubber is the "major" you pick up long after the time has passed for you to have decided on a major

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 07:44:21 am »
oh wait I found them on third look

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 07:43:54 am »
Space what's your pronouns I don't remember

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 06:31:42 am »
Goldgrubber is always a trap children
*unless you're rafaam

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 12:58:40 am »
Vote:Robz88

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 12:54:34 am »
Goldgrubber is always a trap children

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 12:52:09 am »
And yeah I have a mostly dragons comp but i'm gonna try to squeeze a Goldgrubber in

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 12:50:00 am »
I'm gonna box that next person who talks about mechanics again, which could be anybody, because it's all any of you are doing.  It's a really good way to make an environment where scum can hide and town can't find anything.  Please stop

more than you are doing. just saying.

meh that comes off poorly. sorry. but if you don't like the topic being discussed you should invite another one, not just complain about what it is people are actually discussing.
I was intending to do that soonish.  I am playing battlegrounds while reading/rereading so it's very slow.  My last game on f.ds wasn't very active so I wasn't expecting drawing it out to make much difference

fds day 1s are, in a summary:
1 parts RVS
2 parts set up talk
a dash of bitters
900 dashes of MiX and faust leading random conversation
set oven to 450 and wait until 3 hours to DL and randomly lynch one of the wagons.


so if you got something to talk about. please, switch it up .
Oh I am becoming aware of how I have dramatically altered this formula in the past

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 12:49:19 am »
Agreed, Space!

Oh hi Space!

I almost had the same reaction, so you're town.

Heh.. I found it so ammusing I pointed it out to my French lockdown-lodger :-P Shame I haven't managed to get him back here to play any more Mafia.

I've been out of the loop for a couple of games. Anyone want to fill me in on anything relevant that's been happening, since I'm unlikely to have time to read it all?
This is scummy posting, not terribly so and for the more obvious reasons, that the proportional lack of interest in the game at hand isn't a great look.
Heyo.

We could reverse engineer what roles are likely in the game based on the choices that skum made for their powers?

Normally, that would be an insta pass I know... but since skum literally knew the roles in play prior to their selections... it is not really giving them any info they don't already have.

TBF I also do not know how helpful mapping it out would be for us... thoughts?

I like this approach - I mean even if not helpful, I don't see how it can hurt.
It will give them information about who doesn't have certain roles. Which seems to matter them, since they chose the rolecop.
This is probably a townslip on the other hand, assuming without deciding it's true, I think scum would be likely to think of or characterize their decision in this way/with this wording.  Rolecops typically return to kill their targets the following night because they found out their target was "anything but VT".

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 12:35:34 am »
I'm gonna box that next person who talks about mechanics again, which could be anybody, because it's all any of you are doing.  It's a really good way to make an environment where scum can hide and town can't find anything.  Please stop

more than you are doing. just saying.

meh that comes off poorly. sorry. but if you don't like the topic being discussed you should invite another one, not just complain about what it is people are actually discussing.
I was intending to do that soonish.  I am playing battlegrounds while reading/rereading so it's very slow.  My last game on f.ds wasn't very active so I wasn't expecting drawing it out to make much difference

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« on: July 23, 2020, 12:34:16 am »
Heyo.

We could reverse engineer what roles are likely in the game based on the choices that skum made for their powers?

Normally, that would be an insta pass I know... but since skum literally knew the roles in play prior to their selections... it is not really giving them any info they don't already have.

TBF I also do not know how helpful mapping it out would be for us... thoughts?
Best play is always to treat setups as vanilla except for factors you just can't ignore.

I mean if you were not a Vt in a game that has deductible logic in it and you are town you def shouldn't play it "from a vt pov" that is just wasted knowledge. But I think I get your point. and if I do, I at least moderately agree with it.
"Oh I rolled Doctor I should probably decide who the mafia want to kill tonight and message the mod their name or I'm throwing away lots of value" would be what I mean by "except for factors you can't ignore."  If you think a Doctor should participate in the dayplay in a fundamentally different way from a VT, like attempting to manipulate their chance of getting nightkilled or something, I fundamentally disagree as I think it's too hard to do; you'll play the daygame much worst or paradoxically spew your role to scum precisely because you set out to do something besides play all your games the same.

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