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Stronghold - $3
Action/Duration

+2 Actions
The first time any player (including you) plays an Attack before the start of your next turn, +2 Cards.

Clarification: This stays in play until the next turn if you did not play an Attack after playing it, and otherwise is discarded on the same turn.

I don't think it's clear whether you get the +2 Cards before or after the Attack is resolved.
No? I figure when-X effects always happen before X. This is like a when-play effect. But I guess official cards tend to come with the "first" for clarification.

When-gain and when-buy both happen AFTER gaining/buying, respectively. And all official cards that trigger from something being played either say "when a card is played, first X" or "after a card is played, X," for clarity's sake.

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Quote
Stronghold - $3
Action/Duration

+2 Actions
The first time any player (including you) plays an Attack before the start of your next turn, +2 Cards.

Clarification: This stays in play until the next turn if you did not play an Attack after playing it, and otherwise is discarded on the same turn.

I don't think it's clear whether you get the +2 Cards before or after the Attack is resolved.

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Fan Mechanics Week 19: Join the Queue
« on: September 06, 2021, 01:30:39 am »
My Submission:


Quote from: Into the Woods
INTO THE WOODS

[Card art shows a black and white drawing of a dark forest, with the outlines of trees covering most of the image and grass in the foreground; an eerie light glows from the center of the image]

Queue all of the Action and Night cards you would discard from play this turn.

During your Night phase, you may discard this from your Queue to play an Action card from your hand.

Cost: $3
NIGHT
                   

Is the fact that you can play Into the Woods and then immediately "call" it intentional?

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Quote
Embark
Event
You may set aside an Action card from your hand. At the start of your next turn, play it.

I might be missing something (and believe me, it's been happening a lot to me lately), but isn't this just Delay, except it now costs $3?

You aren't, it is exactly just Delay for instead of .

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Fan Mechanics Week 19: Join the Queue
« on: September 01, 2021, 01:04:18 am »
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Breadline - $4
Night
Queue a card from your hand or the top card of your deck.
You may Queue a Copper from play per $1 it costs.
----
Setup: Each player Queues 4 Copper from the supply.

A Monastery/Chapel variant that uses Queue to get rid of Coppers instead of trashing them. It alters the start of the game as you start with 4 Copper in Queue, so even if you do not Queue anything else, everyone will have a 6 card hand for the first 4 turns. Breadline lets you keep this perpetual extra card effect going and prevents you from being swamped with Copper later in the game. I priced it at $4 for this reason. I imagine games will accelerate quickly with the bonus buying power at the start. Feedback is appreciated.

The setup clause does shake up the opening quite a bit, since players start with a deck of 3 Coppers and 3 Estates.  The most amount of coins you can have (in the majority of kingdoms with Breadline) in Turn 1 will be $4.  You also have a fairly high probability of seeing your Turn 1 purchase on Turn 2, since you will need to shuffle after Turn 1.

My initial concern when I saw this was that this could lead to swingy openings.  Say, for example, Player 1 has $4 (starting hand of 3 Coppers, 2 Estates, and adds a Copper from the Queue) on Turn 1 and buys a Militia.  At Clean-up, Player 1 draws their remaining Estate, shuffles, and draws their Militia, 2 Coppers and an Estate.  Player 2 only has $3 on Turn 1 (starting hand of 2 Coppers, 3 Estates, and adds a Copper from the Queue) and buys a Silver.  At Clean-up, Player 2 draws their remaining Copper, shuffles their deck and unfortunately for them draws 3 Estates and a Copper.  On Turn 2, Player 1 adds a Copper from the Queue and plays Militia (Player 2 discards 2 Estates) and is able to buy a $5 cost card.  Player 2 adds a Copper from the Queue, but again only has $3 to spend.  You essentially end up with an "opening split" of $4/$5 for Player 1 and $3/$3 for Player 2.             

You're misunderstanding the setup clause. You Queue 4 Coppers from the Supply in addition to your starting Coppers, not from among them.

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A Village that Catacombs-ifies your next draw. Same name as emtzalex's entry, I know, but the prompt kinda limits the design space as far as names go.

Edit 1: Increased price to as suggested by people on Discord.

Edit 2: Reverted price back to .

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Fan Mechanics Week 19: Join the Queue
« on: August 31, 2021, 07:27:38 pm »


Limited to exactly 5 so that you can't continually force opponents to set aside the same Action turn after turn nor make opponents miss a turn by setting aside their whole hand.

why's this a duration?

Because it originally played at the start of your next turn and I forgot to drop the Duration type.

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Fan Mechanics Week 19: Join the Queue
« on: August 31, 2021, 07:08:50 pm »


Limited to exactly 5 so that you can't continually force opponents to set aside the same Action turn after turn nor make opponents miss a turn by setting aside their whole hand.

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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #126: Seeking an Heir
« on: August 30, 2021, 09:19:23 pm »
Results
I mocked up any cards that didn't already have mockups (and that I could find good art for). I made sure to use the exact same wording as the creators did.


Spectacle
Fireworks
--
X-tra
A Night version of a Worker's Village that returns to your Action phase. A very creative entry that looks like a lot of fun to play with. Great job on this one, X-tra.



Port Clerk
Quill
--
Xen3k
An Action card that gives + for each unique Treasure you play this turn (extra + for one-shots, since it only counts Treasures in play). I think it would seem pretty sad for if it didn't come with an Heirloom to boost both the unique Treasures in use and the unique Treasures you start with. However, the Heirloom that it comes with balances it beautifully.



Road
Shortcut
--
4est
I think this is far too weak. Even with Shortcut, you need to play a lot of them for them to be consistently worthwhile. Especially since there are only 10 Roads; by the time they're reasonably useful for more than just being plain cantrips, the pile's empty or nearly there. And in 3 and 4 player games, you're decently unlikely to even get enough Roads for them to be useful.



Bridgestone
Stone
--
majiponi
I don't really have much to say about this. A pure vanilla card isn't exactly exciting.



Night Drive
Carriage
--
faust
I think this will gain too many Horses too easily; in the Secret History for Menagerie, Donald said he tried a card that terminally gained 3 Horses, and just that was too many. Especially since this only trashes from play, so it'll mainly trash Coppers and cards that cost . Plus it can always just trash itself to non-terminally gain 5 Horses.



Royal Signet
Weighted Coin
--
lompeluiten
I don't really find this much more interesting than Throne Room. Granted, Throne Room is one of the most exciting base set cards in my opinion, so it's still decent. But it's also kind of a boring version of Counterfeit.



Lightning Rod
Lightning
--
mathdude
A very unique Reaction trigger with a very unique top. But, it's kinda sad that half the vanilla bonuses it can give (one of which it always gives) is useless when an opponent triggers it. It's not bad, but there were other submissions I thought looked more fun to use.



Labor Guild
Leverage
--
spineflu
Either Merchant Guild or Merchant Guild but with Villagers depending on whether the cost in of the bought card is even or odd. Even without the presence of Leverage to help make even-costs odd and vice-versa, I think this is too good compared to Merchant Guild to share the same cost.



Chop Shop
Burglary Tools
--
emtzalex
I agree with segura that this is way too good, for the same reasons. I also don't really see the reason for it being an Heirloom card (other than the obvious "that's the prompt"), since Burglary Tools either just decreases the cost of both the trashed card and the gained card (thus doing nothing for its Remodeling ability) or makes Chop Shop even more OP by allowing it to Expand your cards.



Jeweller
Emerald
--
AJL828
A very neat variable Cantrip gainer. Like Port Clerk, the Heirloom helps balance this card out wonderfully, but even more so. Another excellent submission.



Woodsman
Lumber
--
anordinaryman
As you pointed out, being a Reserve card amps up the strategic implications of this card dramatically. I love it.



Night Worker
Torch
--
NoMoreFun
A stronger combination of Armory and Ironworks. Not bad, but there were more interesting submissions.



Shipwright
Mooring
--
xyz123
Takes two Shipwrights to be able to Shipwright a , but one has to be played during the Night before you play a different one in a later turn (during which you call the Shipwright). Seems like a pretty huge pain for the effect you get, and the below-line ability is otherwise pretty niche imo since it doesn't give you any vanilla bonuses like Villa or Cavalry do. Plus I don't really like that you can return to your Action phase in the middle of resolving a Treasure card.



Brooch
Clasp
--
JW
A Treasure trasher that can only trash Estates if combined with Clasp. Feels kinda uninspired since Goat exists, especially since Goat is an Heirloom.



Souk
Lantern
--
Timinou
A very interesting non-terminal DtX that also allows gain-and-play shenanigans. I like it. My only worry is that it may be too strong in a big money strategy.



Record
Quill Pen
-
Aquila
A Scheme Event variant. I'm not sure it needs the cost restriction to be balanced; Scheme only needs to be bought once, and can potentially be played every turn.



Testing Room
Prototype
--
The Alchemist
Coincidentally very similar to Souk, which was posted shortly before it. I'm afraid Souk did this concept better imo.



Carnival
Beer
--
grep
I love the bottom part of Carnival. However, the top part isn't so exciting. Since it's the type of card you'd generally want to spam, I think it could just be a Market and play out very similarly if not largely the same.



Another batch of excellent submissions.

Honorable Mentions (Unordered): Port Clerk/Quill by Xen3k, Lightning Rod/Lightning by mathdude, Souk/Lantern by Timinou, and Carnival/Beer by grep

Runners-up:
3rd place: Jeweller/Emerald by AJL828
2nd place: Woodsman/Lumber by anordinaryman

Winner: Spectacle/Fireworks by X-tra

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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #126: Seeking an Heir
« on: August 30, 2021, 07:52:50 pm »
Submissions closed!

Results will be posted shortly.

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Just played a game in which Lord Rattington used Scrap on a Province. This can sometimes be a good strategic decision, but I don't think this case was one.

I Scrapped a Colony in order to end the game once. It was the right decision.

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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #126: Seeking an Heir
« on: August 26, 2021, 07:38:18 pm »
Differently named Treasures again, I see... I started at counting all Treasures but couldn't be sure of balance.



I thought an Event would be less shuffle dependent, and that Potion cost was about right balance wise (as well as an extra different Treasure)

No image is showing up for me.

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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #126: Seeking an Heir
« on: August 24, 2021, 07:06:06 pm »
Submission


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Woodsman | Action - Reserve | $4
+1 Buy
Put this on your Tavern mat.
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When you play a card, you may call this to choose +2 Cards; or gain a card that costs up to $4
Heirloom: Lumber

Lumber Jack can be called immediately after your next card for a more expensive workshop that gives +1 buy. Or you can treat it like a +2 cards +1 buy which would be weak silk Merchant. If only you could line this card up for when you need it, so you can gain $5s with it. Well, you can! The power is you can choose to delay calling the card. You can choose to keep it on the Tavern mat to save a later turn, like a coin of the realm for cards. Or, you can wait until you play a Lumber, and now you can gain a card costing up to $5.

This card can be called in your Action, Buy, or Night phases. And this card can be called when it's not your turn. Thanks to Menagerie, there's a ton of cards that can be played out of your turn, like Black Cat. Good thing that both the actions you can take when you call it are easily trackable even if it's not your turn.

The card has to cost at least $4 because it is almost strictly better than workshop (except for a turn where that is the last action card you have to play and you have no treasures).

As always, open to feedback.

Woodsman should either say "you may first call this..." or "whenafter you play a card..." to make it clearer whether it triggers before or after resolving the played card. The latter allows you to call it immediately, so if that isn't intended (I assume it's not based on your commentary), then you would also have to say "after you play a card other than this..." I assume it's intended to be before resolving, though.

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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #125: What's the Draw?
« on: August 24, 2021, 05:07:21 pm »
This was a tough one!  I'm posting the results now to minimize the delay in getting the next contest up, but I will post detailed feedback on the submissions later tonight.

Honorable Mentions:
Gardoomalion's Clock Tower
emtzalex's Rework
Xen3k's Flower Garden
DunnoItAll's Interest/Savings
stechafle's Spiral Staircase

Runners-up:
Aquila's Repository
X-tra's Commander

WINNER:
Gubump's Arcade

I don't know about everyone else, but I am still interested in seeing your comments on people's cards.

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: New mechanic: Modifiers
« on: August 24, 2021, 03:49:04 pm »
Ice Crown needs rewording; as it is currently, it ignores +Actions forever, which is obviously accidental. Here's my wording suggestion:
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+2 Actions
After you finish playing this card, ignore any further +Actions you get for the rest of this turn.

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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #126: Seeking an Heir
« on: August 24, 2021, 01:27:35 am »


Here's my entry for this week. Road is a cheap cantrip that along with your other Roads allows you to gain a single card per turn with a variable cost based on how many Roads you got into play that turn (I think the "Once per turn" language correctly achieves this effect, but let me know if it doesn't). With just one in play, you can usually only gain a Copper, but if you collide it with your Shortcut, you can gain another Road. Later, you can chain together more to gain an engine piece or even a Province if you have a long enough Road. The Shortcut essentially stands in as another Road, along with some of the usual cost reduction shenanigans.

You only discard "this" once per turn anyway, so I don't think this wording quite works. I'd suggest this wording:
Quote
+1 Card
+1 Action

Once per turn, when you discard a Road from play...

Also, important question: Is it intentional that playing 3 roads gains you a (because it triggers after the discard)?

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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #126: Seeking an Heir
« on: August 23, 2021, 09:11:29 pm »


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Port Clerk - $5
Action
+1 Buy
When you play a Treasure card this turn that you don't have a copy of in play, +$1.

Quote
Quill - $3
Treasure - Heirloom
Cards cost $1 less this turn.

Port Clerk is a terminal super Merchant. The money from a Port Clerk can scale pretty quickly with additional Treasures in the Kingdom and with things like Counterfeit, so I think the $5 cost is warranted. Not sure if the sentence structure for Port Clerk is correct. Feedback is appreciated.

I think it would read more cleanly if "this turn" came first, like so:
Quote
This turn, when you play a Treasure you didn't have a copy of in play, +.

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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #126: Seeking an Heir
« on: August 23, 2021, 03:17:16 pm »
Yeah, the big is mostly a lil' thing I like to do. I know non- yielding Treasures don't need it, but idk. I enjoy seeing that big fat on Treasure cards. A quick reminder that you're not getting straight from it. It's mostly a personal thing, I'll admit.

Fair enough; it matters a lot less for this Treasure since it isn't a wall of text like HoP is.

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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #126: Seeking an Heir
« on: August 23, 2021, 01:05:57 pm »
Pretty quick entry this time, but I am feeling inspired, soooo... here we go!

     

Spectacle, played after Fireworks, allows you to pull some neat tricks. For instance... Workshopping more Spectacles! Or if you've drawn deck, then you can "gain and play" the card(s) you bought this turn.

Spectacle might be too strong, idk. I briefly considered giving it a cost. Anyway, lemme know if it's too powerful or something.

Fireworks doesn't need the big . See current HoP:

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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #125: What's the Draw?
« on: August 23, 2021, 11:03:48 am »
This was a tough one!  I'm posting the results now to minimize the delay in getting the next contest up, but I will post detailed feedback on the submissions later tonight.

Honorable Mentions:
Gardoomalion's Clock Tower
emtzalex's Rework
Xen3k's Flower Garden
DunnoItAll's Interest/Savings
stechafle's Spiral Staircase

Runners-up:
Aquila's Repository
X-tra's Commander

WINNER:
Gubump's Arcade

Thanks! The next contest has been posted.

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Weekly Design Contest / Weekly Design Contest #126: Seeking an Heir
« on: August 23, 2021, 11:02:33 am »
Contest #126: Seeking an Heir

Design a card that uses the following Heirloom:



As in the last contest I hosted, please do not submit any cards you've previously posted on the forums. Also as before, my judging criteria will focus on balance, playability, fun, and creativity.

A couple of important notes: You'll notice that the Heirloom does not have a name; this is to avoid narrowing the namespace for submissions. Please give the Heirloom a name along with your submission. Lastly, feel free to give the Heirloom a different cost than the cost I chose; it's probably not super important for balance (depending on your submission, of course), but I'll assume it costs for all entries unless otherwise specified.

Without any further ado, good luck and have fun designing!

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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #125: What's the Draw?
« on: August 13, 2021, 06:43:54 pm »


Farm Cellar
Action - $5
+1 Action
Reveal cards from your deck until you reveal an Action or Treasure.
Put all the revealed cards into your hand.
Discard any number of cards from your hand to draw that many.

So basically it's the draw of Farming Village, but you keep all the cards instead of discarding the ones you weren't looking for, and then a Cellar. The more Curses and Victory cards you have, the more it draws, though you're still more likely to end up with a bad card after the Cellaring in decks like that.

This is too strong. Cantrip Cellar is already a really strong or possibly even a decent ; Hunting Lodge is all or nothing and gets worse with a large handsize. Cantrip Cellar lets you pick and choose which cards you discard and gets stronger with a larger handsize. That makes up for being a Cantrip instead of a Village if you ask me. And this is significantly better than Cantrip Cellar.

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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #125: What's the Draw?
« on: August 13, 2021, 01:53:48 pm »
v0.2: Dropped price to as suggested on Discord.

Gubump, the card image has a cost of $3 so I'm not sure where the typo is.

Thanks, the image is correct. The typo's been fixed.

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