That’s ridiculous. I’m going to take this to pm so I don’t clog the thread or get uncivil, and I suggest anyone else who disagrees with this action do the same.
The whole forum have already had this argument I'm afraid. I was very much on your side, but the voices who cared the most were on the other side, so this is a fairly standard rule now.
Also that's not my alignment, my alignment is actually town. But this confirms that the cult is pro-town, so even if I was part of the cult, lynching me would be a dumb move.
It doesn't say pro-town. It just says not-explicitly antitown. "not considered an enemy of the radch" is not the same as "an ally of the radch".Hmm ok so hyper did essentially say that the cult was explicitly protown.
It annoys me that hyper never confirmed that her information was mod-confirmed. if you see what I mean. The information might have come in like a message from the cult or something, making it unreliable. I dunno. Probably not.
I can't believe this is what we're spending our beginning of the day talking about.
vote: Awaclus
We can do better.
Vote: WestCoastDidds
On wagon D1, off wagon D2
Hmm. Hard to argue with that. A bit obvious maybe? Then again WCD is new.
Also worth noting: Space was offwagon. Here is their post and (as far as I can see) only vote of the day:
Sure, mail-mi is a would-lynch. I wondered where most of the scrutiny on him from D1 went, though I was voting him for much of that time anyway.
Vote: mail-mi
My main would-lynch is still LL.
I wouldn't lynch Awaclus at this point without a scummy flip from LL of a type that indicates LL was on a team with other scums.
I really really don't like the above. At no point (again, that I can find) does Space vote for Lalight. And yet says that LL is their main lynch candidate,
while voting elsewhere. What's that about? In light of LL's flip I'd say that looks really scummy. It gives you something to point to later and say "no but look I wanted LL lynched too" without ever actually helping the lynch.
In general actually Space has made very very few votes. I can't remember if this is normal for them. If it's not normal for space I'd lean towards that lack of commitment to a vote as being scummy.
Space I'd like you to explain yourself a bit, I think. Just, like: why the above vote, why didn't you ever vote Lalight, why the lack of votes in general, etc.
However I will say: it's obvious that Glooble was talking purely about the flavour, noting that we are radch-aligned and town, but not the "good guys" in the sense of the books, ie. We are aligned against the protagonists of the books.
This is not difficult to understand. Anyone voting Glooble for that is scummy.
It is difficult to understand. I'm not familiar with the flavor at all, and this is my best effort at trying to figure out what's going on:
1) In the book, "Radch" aren't necessarily heroes or villains
2) Therefore, getting a character from the book who isn't necessarily a hero or a villain as "Radch-aligned" isn't surprising
3) If that's what happened to Glooble, it is not strange for Glooble to assume that "Radch-aligned" (i.e. town) are the heroes from the book
4) And then if that's what Glooble assumed, it goes against that assumption when a town player flips a villain flavor name and a scum player flips a hero flavor name and this is worth pointing out in the thread
5) For some reason, Glooble assumed that everyone else also assumed that "Radch-aligned" are the heroes from the book
Is this right?
Yes, but it's not nearly as convoluted as you make it sound.
As for 5), you sound incredulous, but yeah: in lots of mafia games, town are the protagonists of the book/flavour.
However I will say: it's obvious that Glooble was talking purely about the flavour, noting that we are radch-aligned and town, but not the "good guys" in the sense of the books, ie. We are aligned against the protagonists of the books.
This is not difficult to understand. Anyone voting Glooble for that is scummy.
This is actually the thing that stands out to me from that whole exchange.
Like it's so implausible to see where the idea that Glooble scumslipped comes from that it must be scummy? I get what Glooble was saying, now, in retrospect, but those votes that immediately follow make sense to me too.
Meh, not really. I just couldn't bring myself to see what Glooble said any other way. Maybe "the people who made that vote should feel bad" is a better way to say it. But I was posting quickly on my phone and didn't have time to un-exaggerate my response.
Ok, so. This is going to be a bit stream-of-consciousness so bear with me.
There's 10 of us left. SpaceAnemone, jotheonah, mail-mi, Awaclus, 2.71828....., WestCoastDidds, UmbrageOfSnow, ashersky, Haddock, Glooble
Of these, I am pretty much 100 percent convinced that joth, Glooble, e, and ashersky are town.
If I take seriously the suggestion that mail-mi and Awaclus, both of whom I'd very much like to lynch, are not scum because if they were they were too obvious about trying to save LaLight, then I'm looking at a pool of Space, WCD, Haddock, and Umbrage. The latter two are relatively recent replacements for lurkers so I don't have a strong read on either of them (ironically, they replaced the two players I probably have the strongest ability to read). Space and WCD, on the other hand, are both players I don't have too much trouble believing are scum, though I wouldn't say I have strong scumreads on either of them.
Hmmm. Looking at the LaLight wagon now:
Haddock, hypercube, jotheonah, Glooble, ashersky, 2.71828....., LaLight
There is only one person on that wagon who isn't either obvtown to me, confirmed town, or LaLight and that's Haddock. So if scum is doing the one-on one-off thing (which I think is a reasonable default assumption) that would bring me to suspect Haddock.
Or, of course, there is the possibility that e and ashersky are scum together and the cop claim was a gambit. We have to keep that in mind even though I think it quite unlikely for a number of reasons.
Huh. I mean. Wrong - I'm town. But that analysis is annoyingly easy to follow and makes sense.
The conclusion from my perspective, though, is that you (joth) are worth suspecting (you were already on my radar) or that you were right re mail-mi and/or Awaclus. Of those three I'm more inclined to vote for you or mail-mi (probably mail-mi over you by a little way).
Awaclus has been pretty Awaclus so far - and I am not really even excluding his egregious behaviour re the Lalight lynch. That play is still well within his nullzone.
I need to reread mail-mi. I hadn't been getting many scumvibes, but apparently I've missed stuff; someone mentioned a cop claim?
Hmm actually as i catch up more maybe I need to reread Glooble too. there are weird things there that I wasn't seeing before. (Not to mention Space having brought Glooble to my attention.)
