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2015 / Re: Week 1 - Losers' Bracket Signup
« on: October 06, 2015, 02:11:57 pm »
So when does this start?
Based on yuma's writeup, we need the second mason to claim or we need to absolutely lynch gkrieg or faust today.
I'll be honest, I'm voting you for information.
I'm actually feeling mild town on Awaclus, because this feels more like town!Awaclus than scum!Awaclus.
So you think Ash would be the one to fakeclaim Masons, and he clearly was pushing gkrieg to claim on Day 1, but you don't think we gain anything by seeing a Mason get NKed?
You misunderstand his good point.
We no lynch with 1 scum left in 4 alive because scum kills off a potential mislynch and that helps remaining down by reducing the odds of a mislynch.
Here, chairs is saying we have a lynch pool of VTs today and a no lynch doesn't change that because all the VTs will survive the night. So the no lynch doesn't change anything.
I understand that logic, except chairs doesn't think all the VTs will survive the night, which makes it valuable. Unless he means TA will die, and again, that has value.
See, I actually think TA dying doesn't gain us any value. It still provides the possibility that the Masons are scum (again, no offence guys, but if anybody was gonna fakeclaim that it'd be you). It still leaves all the VTs open as possible third scum.Thanks Yuma. I didn't have time to do that, and it helps.
@Gkrieg: is that logic related to your preferences?
I'm going to try to look at me, TA, chairs, and Hydrad's reads later today. It could be that Hydrad's reads were better, so how they're different could matter. If someone gets to this before me, I will not be sad, but I'll get to it eventually.
I'm excited to see what you come up with here.
Masons do you have day chat?No
My reasons for disagreeing are pretty well laid out, I think I'm going in circles.
Why am I one of your top lynch choices, Gkrieg?
@Yuma, of course I'd go along with a lynch if no one wants to no-lynch. You're just all wrong again.
I never said I'm moving towards TA, I'm definitely not. If we lynch, we should lynch a VT and Awaclus is my preferred lynch. The Hydrad kill gives me pause though.
Chairs post in a moment, I'm neutral on him, but I'll look through his ISO and give it some more thought.
One thing I'm having trouble with is: why wouldn't scum!Yuma buddy me? I am sometimes over-susceptible to buddying (or I worry that I am anyway) and I've been someone agreeing with him a lot through the game. Why would scum!Yuma come out of the gate pushing for a lynch on me as an alternative to Awaclus. I like to think I'm fairly hard to lynch and I've been solidly in his camp, but he pushes me at the start of the day.
I can see that coming from town, but what's the scum motivation there? How does he know I won't OMGUS, at least subconsciously?
Okay, trying to work my way into this game.
Twistedarcher - Claimed Roleblocker. I'm not sure I believe him. Tentatively my top lynch priority.
Because of the claim, or because of other reasons?
Okay, trying to work my way into this game.
gkrieg13 - Claimed Mason. I see no reason to disbelieve him at this point - we'll catch him if he's lying.
ashersky - Apparently going to claim Mason? He was wrong to advocate lynching WW - it was a silly lynch. But of course, ash can be equally wrong as Town or scum. I hope he is the other Mason.
yuma - Frustrated Town or conniving scum. Very hard to say with yuma. I don't see a particular reason to believe he's scum, but I certainly wouldn't put it past him. Not looking at lynching him today.
Twistedarcher - Claimed Roleblocker. I'm not sure I believe him. Tentatively my top lynch priority.
Awaclus - I don't really understand the arguments against him, I'll have to look into him further. But at this stage I'm not super against lynching him.
chairs, UmbrageOfSnow - I don't have much to say about either of these at this stage, other than I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was scum here.
Speaking of RMM's, I've been trying to get the 'there is a universal currency, each player at any point has some amount of $ (which is unknown to him), each player can request (almost) any power, and if he has enough $, it happens, if not, nothing happens' idea to work by making a sheet of all powers, but it's impossible... there are so many, and some actions scale depending on whether or not not they're self-targeted, or depending on alignment or ingame day, and some don't, etc.
There is a way to make it work, which is by having me decide how much something costs upon submission, the question is just is that something players would want to play, as there is an element of mod capriciousness (I had to look that word up), which is generally considered bastard. I would try to keep it at a minimum, by a) setting some guidelines beforehand, b) writing down every action I price and comparing them, and c) hiding players currency from myself, so that I never know whether or not it's affordable -- but I can't eliminate it completely.
?Looks like I'm the leading wagon.Finally a good vote from you
Vote: Witherweaver
Are you saying you're scum?
Looks like I'm the leading wagon.Finally a good vote from you
Vote: Witherweaver