I also find it weird that two players--one of whom had previously suspected him--declared that they would not vote for him.
Ashersky and Jimmm - You two both voted Eevee earlier. There's now a wagon on him without your votes. How do you feel regarding Eevee now? More scummy? Less? If each of you accepts yourself to be town, then who out of the 5 other people to have voted Eevee - or Eevee himself - do you think is most likely scum?
Fwiw, especially mid part of the day this far, I think I've played MUCH like my town self. Like, having a bunch of town reads and no real scum reads and being suspected a lot certainly rings a bell.
jimmm leading the town with most posts.. the new guy has become a veteran!
To contribute a list, which would be helpful from everyone:
Would not lynch today: ashersky, Robz, liopoil, Yuma, munch, Galzria
Would lynch: raerae, mom salon, jimmmmm, Eevee
Fence: Cuzz, Dsell, sparky, theo, Glooble
Would and wouldn't are in order.
Time for a POST COUNT. Here is everyone, in order of total posts.
1/2. Jimmmmm 53
1/2. Robz 53
3. Eevee 44
4. ashersky 41
5. Raerae 34
6. Galzria 32
7. Cuzz 30
8. yuma 22
9. Shraeye 21
10. mcmcsalot 20
11/12. Dsell 13
11/12. Glooble 13
13. sparky/themunch 12
14/15. liopoil 9
14/15. theorel 9
The average number of posts per player is 27.
Okay, I've had a weird feeling from mcmc all game, but haven't really been able to place it. I had a bit of a read of his only other game I and I think I know what it is now. Consider this post:I can clarify my defensiveness right now. I'm 19 and playing a game with my brothers friends, something I have always wanted to do, I like my brother and his friends quite a bit. So if I think your misconstruing defensiveness as nervousness because i'm just that, nervous about being liked and accepted by all of you.
Even though he was scum in that game, I think this was pretty genuine.
Now bear in mind that if mcmc is Town this game, it is his first game as Town, in fact his first game for which he doesn't know the entire setup. I remember my first few games I was Town and got pretty overwhelmed because I just wanted to be right with my votes and lynches and anyone could be scum, anyone could be Town, who could I trust or listen to or who was trying to trick me? I'm just not seeing this with mcmc, and I would expect it even more from someone who has played before as scum, and who is putting pressure on himself to be liked. But he seems to be "reading" and suspecting and voting just as much as when he was scum.
So now that I've heard from him and we're voting more, I will Vote: mcmcsalot.
Jim I'm surprised to hear this from you, especiallynow that I've answered. To be clear, my vote for ashersky is the only vote I have made, I was very hesitant to vote as I expressed early on but I came to the understanding voting in normal mafia games was a backing up of your read. Also, my suspicion from you stems from the fact that I put a lot of faith in supporting your reads(interesting you use the words"who could trick me as I was yelled at by yuma I believe for saying you tried to trick me), after your case on eevee was blown up, I realized I cannot trust other peoples reads as much as I thought. Since then I have been posting all of my thoughts on players in complete and concise posts. I felt this was the best way to benefit town because more veteran players than me could use my thoughts to help find scum.
I can clarify my defensiveness right now. I'm 19 and playing a game with my brothers friends, something I have always wanted to do, I like my brother and his friends quite a bit. So if I think your misconstruing defensiveness as nervousness because i'm just that, nervous about being liked and accepted by all of you.
There are three people whose lynches I will almost definitely not be supporting today: Galz, Dsell and Eevee. Galz because he's Galz and he's busy. Dsell because he's probably Town and we need more evidence on him than we can probably get today. Eevee's probably from more of an emotional standpoint. I had this big case on him, and it kind of died, and I kind of just want to move on.
I'm in your corner with Eevee. Not voting for him unless he does something awful.
I don't care for this absolving Eevee of all suspicion thing. Disagreeing with the earlier cases on him is one thing, but I really can't see how that translates into making him lynchproof D1. (I realize I'm exaggerating your positions a bit but hopefully people get my point)Oh I'm sick of talking about Eevee. But I will gladly listen to any compelling case you have on him.
Be my guest.
I don't have a compelling case. But your complete 180 on Eevee is weird. You went from having a case against him, to saying "maybe this case is not so good," to suddenly saying you will almost definitely not support his lynch today. To me that kind of attitude should be reserved for someone you have a strong townread on, and I'm not sure where that comes from.
Eevee is a nullread for me now. I thought I had a really strong case on him, I just didn't see a world where Town Eevee would say both of those things. But then I realised I hadn't fully understood where he was coming from with one of them, but didn't think that totally destroyed my case. Then I thought about it more and a Town Eevee started making a lot more sense to me. Maybe I shouldn't go with what I feel like doing, but I just don't want to focus on Eevee any more today.
Let's say we forget about the whole situation with your earlier case on Eevee and throw it all away. You're still saying that you refuse to consider voting for someone today whom you do not have a townread on, and that's an anti-town attitude.
Vote: Mom Salon for beating me in blitz.
There are three people whose lynches I will almost definitely not be supporting today: Galz, Dsell and Eevee. Galz because he's Galz and he's busy. Dsell because he's probably Town and we need more evidence on him than we can probably get today. Eevee's probably from more of an emotional standpoint. I had this big case on him, and it kind of died, and I kind of just want to move on.
I'm in your corner with Eevee. Not voting for him unless he does something awful.
I don't care for this absolving Eevee of all suspicion thing. Disagreeing with the earlier cases on him is one thing, but I really can't see how that translates into making him lynchproof D1. (I realize I'm exaggerating your positions a bit but hopefully people get my point)Oh I'm sick of talking about Eevee. But I will gladly listen to any compelling case you have on him.
Be my guest.
I don't have a compelling case. But your complete 180 on Eevee is weird. You went from having a case against him, to saying "maybe this case is not so good," to suddenly saying you will almost definitely not support his lynch today. To me that kind of attitude should be reserved for someone you have a strong townread on, and I'm not sure where that comes from.
There are three people whose lynches I will almost definitely not be supporting today: Galz, Dsell and Eevee. Galz because he's Galz and he's busy. Dsell because he's probably Town and we need more evidence on him than we can probably get today. Eevee's probably from more of an emotional standpoint. I had this big case on him, and it kind of died, and I kind of just want to move on.
I'm in your corner with Eevee. Not voting for him unless he does something awful.
I don't care for this absolving Eevee of all suspicion thing. Disagreeing with the earlier cases on him is one thing, but I really can't see how that translates into making him lynchproof D1. (I realize I'm exaggerating your positions a bit but hopefully people get my point)
Oh I'm sick of talking about Eevee. But I will gladly listen to any compelling case you have on him.
