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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M93: Love Letter Mafia (Day 2)

« on: January 22, 2017, 04:33:28 pm »

What's the benefit of Dayvigging? If Town Dayvigs Town, there's a ~1/4 chance that we just straight up lose.

Elaborate? We could No Lynch and wouldn't have lost, as far as I can tell.

I mean, of course, we shouldn't do it if we think RR is town. I don't particularly have a strong opinion of RR either way, and the people voting for him haven't offered an explanation.

Why is scumhunting so hard this game?

If scum has a Baron. I know it's popular to ignore this possibility, but if a Town Guard dayvigs a Town Princess, then scum NKs Town, a scum Baron can kill the Town Guard for the win.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M93: Love Letter Mafia (Day 2)

« on: January 22, 2017, 04:07:07 pm »

What's the benefit of Dayvigging? If Town Dayvigs Town, there's a ~1/4 chance that we just straight up lose.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M93: Love Letter Mafia (Day 2)

« on: January 22, 2017, 01:58:17 pm »

Hey guys, real sorry about yesterday. Has been a pretty bonkers week in DC and New York, where I was. Melbourne.
Why the automatic votes for RR?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M93: Love Letter Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 17, 2017, 04:36:14 pm »

Unvote while catching up.

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Forum Games / Re: Vacation/Limited Access announcements

« on: January 17, 2017, 04:34:37 pm »

I currently have no power and therefore no internet at home. I'm hoping that'll be fixed today though.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M93: Love Letter Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 15, 2017, 05:22:33 am »

For the record, the (neutral) likelihood that scum are currently holding a Baron is ~24%.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M93: Love Letter Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 15, 2017, 05:13:28 am »

I mean, the cards ultimately add up to a potential extra night kill available to either side. Chances are the result is an extra Town death. The best way to play this game is to ignore the cards until there's such a time as they could actually be useful (say in lylo), and try to lynch scum.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M93: Love Letter Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 15, 2017, 05:10:11 am »

I've had the discussion. The best use of Prince is in the hands of scum, to either shoot for the Princess, PoE a Baron target or try to get a Baron in the hands of their partner. Town using it is a wash, potentially helps scum use Baron, and is just as likely to put a Baron in the hands of scum as remove it.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M93: Love Letter Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 15, 2017, 03:10:45 am »

I guess if a Prince was being used each night we could possibly hunt for the scummy Prince.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M93: Love Letter Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 15, 2017, 03:08:12 am »

Like, priests should investigate people at L-1.  Discuss?

Strong disagreement. Learning what card someone has provides nothing about their alignment.

So, according to this logic no one should really ever use cards ever.  Is that what you are proposing?

More or less. Maybe at lylo if they're helpful.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M93: Love Letter Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 14, 2017, 05:56:27 pm »

Like, priests should investigate people at L-1.  Discuss?

Strong disagreement. Learning what card someone has provides nothing about their alignment.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M93: Love Letter Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 13, 2017, 05:17:20 pm »

Put me in the "everyone stop freaking out about scum Barons, it's a very long shot" camp.

It's a fairly long shot. But it's by far the most impactful scenario with regards to the cards. If using them somehow helped Town in a significant way then this point would be valid, but little to no gain is not worth a low probability / high impact risk.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M93: Love Letter Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 13, 2017, 10:36:34 am »

With that in mind, Vote: Jimmmm. Long time no see!

OMGUS Vote: Eevee

Hi Eevee!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M93: Love Letter Mafia (PMs are out! N0)

« on: January 12, 2017, 05:46:54 pm »

I'll just wait for Calamitas to tell us what to do about the setup.

*Checks to see that Calamitas is not in this game.*

I'll just wait for Space to tell us what to do about the setup.

*Checks to see that Space is not in this game.*

Uh, okay, who's up then?

Me! And the answer is... NOTHING. Seriously.

The cards are centred around Barons, and specifically the possibility of a scum Baron getting an extra NK. So...

If you're the King, you should not use your ability or you reveal who the King is and help scum PoE. You're the King anyway, why would you want to change?
If you're a Prince, you should not use your ability or you will be considered to be scum trying to help set up a Baron kill or hunt down the Princess.
If you're a Baron... well duh. Don't kill yourself.
If you're a Guard or a Priest, your ability is nowhere near powerful enough to be worth giving yourself up as an extra NK.

So if you're Town, don't use your card at all, and no card claiming whatsoever. Save it for lylo.

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Dominion Online at Shuffle iT / Re: "Features" threads

« on: January 11, 2017, 10:34:49 pm »

I'll put this here before I forget. After a game there should be an option to not play another game apart from Leave, so your opponent isn't sitting there waiting for a rematch while you're looking at the post-game screen with no intention to play again.

You still have access to the chat so you could just tell him/her you aren't going to play again but you are just looking at that screen so they can leave.  I don't see the need to have a special button to tell them that.

People just aren't going to do that if you haven't already been chatting. Maybe "Offer Rematch", forcing you to Accept or Decline would be better.

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Dominion Online at Shuffle iT / Re: "Features" threads

« on: January 11, 2017, 10:15:14 pm »

I'll put this here before I forget. After a game there should be an option to not play another game apart from Leave, so your opponent isn't sitting there waiting for a rematch while you're looking at the post-game screen with no intention to play again.

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Puzzles and Challenges / Re: Strictly better than....

« on: January 10, 2017, 03:31:49 pm »

I think (+1 buy is the only option that can never backfire, no matter how weird the edge case).

+1 VP?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M93: Love Letter Mafia (Open for sign-ups!)

« on: January 08, 2017, 08:51:35 pm »

/in

/in

Yaaaay!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M93: Love Letter Mafia (Open for sign-ups!)

« on: January 08, 2017, 05:12:49 pm »

A couple of comments on the setup.

Overall the Love Letter cards seem like a fun addition. One thing I find a tad disappointing this: In Love Letter you want to be the Princess or Countess because you could end up winning with them, you're just a bit vulnerable with them. In this however, you're still vulnerable but without any benefit. In fact, you generally want to be firstly a King or Prince, or otherwise a Handmaid or Baron. The Priests and Guards are generally too risky to use without a definite purpose to them.

So again I think the cards will be fun, particularly in the late game when you can POE, but it might be good to have some kind of reward for the Princess/Countess, as well as making it less risky for other characters to use their cards.

Having said that, you've obviously put more thought into it than I, and it will be interesting to see how it plays out as is.

Remember that Princess and Countess may be scum roles in this game. That should work out as it is, though I will consult with ash about one thing

Right. Whether Town or Mafia, you don't really want to be holding Princess or Countess. Obviously the mechanics of the game are more important than reflecting the theme, but the idea of the Princess being the most valuable is missing.

Also, I'm not suggesting you change it for this game; just discussing.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M93: Love Letter Mafia (Open for sign-ups!)

« on: January 08, 2017, 04:39:53 pm »

A couple of comments on the setup.

Overall the Love Letter cards seem like a fun addition. One thing I find a tad disappointing this: In Love Letter you want to be the Princess or Countess because you could end up winning with them, you're just a bit vulnerable with them. In this however, you're still vulnerable but without any benefit. In fact, you generally want to be firstly a King or Prince, or otherwise a Handmaid or Baron. The Priests and Guards are generally too risky to use without a definite purpose to them.

So again I think the cards will be fun, particularly in the late game when you can POE, but it might be good to have some kind of reward for the Princess/Countess, as well as making it less risky for other characters to use their cards.

Having said that, you've obviously put more thought into it than I, and it will be interesting to see how it plays out as is.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M93: Love Letter Mafia (Open for sign-ups!)

« on: January 08, 2017, 03:51:43 pm »

/in

Welcome back!

Thanks! I'm hoping I can handle a small game.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M93: Love Letter Mafia (Open for sign-ups!)

« on: January 08, 2017, 03:41:32 pm »

/in

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Other Games / Re: Luciferous' Temporum Client

« on: January 02, 2017, 04:47:10 pm »

Why is setting a password so difficult? I'm not going to provide credit card details or anything.

Passwords must have at least one non letter or digit character. Passwords must have at least one digit ('0'-'9'). Passwords must have at least one uppercase ('A'-'Z').

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Dominion Online at Shuffle iT / Re: The Dominion online 2017 thread

« on: January 02, 2017, 03:59:52 pm »

Also it's rude to do so for whatever reason without sending a chat message - at least a GG to indicate that you're  resigning because you see it as their victoty.

I disagree with this unless you've already been using chat.

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Dominion Online at Shuffle iT / Re: Subscription pricing & structure

« on: January 02, 2017, 03:40:56 pm »

Australians should be paying more to play Dominion!!!

Shh. We just want to be noticed.