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Here's something I don't understand: If I was scum, why wouldn't I contribute? What's stopping me from slapping together some reads, voting a few times and calling it a day? There's no scum narrative for being 'blatantly unhelpful,' which is what you guys think I'm being.
There was no need. You made your AtE, people unvoted you, you thought "fine, I'll stay under the radar then".
Plus this is way different than how normal town RR plays and he has provided no reason as to why
This is way different than how scum!RR plays too, but it's refreshing to see you ignore that.

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This:

I like that TWM has become a RR expert in about 5 minutes. Sorry for 'being lying and manipulative,' that sounds exactly like something I'd do when trying to apologize.

Well I don't think you purposely lied and manipulated at the time of writing the post. But rather, as you went back and tried to contributed you realized it was harder to live up to that expectation and ended up lying and manipulating after the fact.
THat's true though! But as scum, it wouldn't be hard, because nothing would be genuine. I could make up whatever I wanted and as long as I stayed consitant I'd be good. There have been rereads/cases against most everyone in the game, as scum I could've just piggybacked on one of those. But as town, it's in your best interest to be honest and genuine. And this has made reads and such difficult for me, because I obviously don't want to lie about my reads.

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Um, let's not lynch Jake. That wagon is Scumminess Inc.
Scum wouldn't want to lynch Jake.
Why not? Please don't give me the "because he's scum" crap.
Scum wouldn't want to lynch Jake because he clutters the thread and can be pretty easily swayed by a case.

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Nah.

I like RR more still. There is a perfectly good narrative RR, we outlined it a few pages ago.

vote: RR
Alright, I'll look  for it

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Here's something I don't understand: If I was scum, why wouldn't I contribute? What's stopping me from slapping together some reads, voting a few times and calling it a day? There's no scum narrative for being 'blatantly unhelpful,' which is what you guys think I'm being.

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Jake, can you please be more specific as to why you're voting for me?
I guess not

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Jake, can you please be more specific as to why you're voting for me?

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General Discussion / Re: Dank Dominion Memes Bracket
« on: January 15, 2017, 10:14:15 pm »

What? Isotropic is going down?!
Is it Moat?
 "Maybe Adventures is coming to MF this century"
Scout Jokes
 Have you checked out the Forum Games?
Joke Explanations
Brackets
Mine/Mint (or is it Mint/Mine?)
Dominion: Gunpowder
 Awaclus

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4. RR why the vote?
I strongly suspect that with just a minute or two of thought, you'll be able to answer that yourself.

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Vote: Jake

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RR because in all the games iv'e played with him where he is town he never lurks and is alway much more helpful and if he is lurking he has a reason whereas here he doesn't
But check games where I was scum, I didn't play 'like this' either. Since it's new, it can't really be alignment indicative.

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Roadrunners recent posts have been very scummy. I definitely don't like the I don't know what to do post. He genuinely seems like he is invested but doesn't know what to do. Day one I think that points towny but this late in day two with this amount of cases made points toward scum. I know people keep acting like no one is posting but we actually just have a burst of posts then no posts for awhile. My case on Faust is detailed, efhw's on gkrieg is, fausts rereads on everyone have a lot of substance, jake and twm have commented on almost everything. There's tons here to go off of and rr's posts about not knowing what to do look to me like scum literally not knowing what people to side with.

This also makes me think our cases have found scum and rr doesn't want to join them but doesn't want to defend his partners and out them even more.
RR, whether he was town or scum, has never really been conflicted like this. I don't know what the problem is, if I knew it obviously wouldn't be a problem. I am invested in this game though. I just can't figure anything out.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM41: 1-shot Mafia (sign-ups are open!)
« on: January 15, 2017, 06:48:42 pm »
/tag

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M92: xkcd Mafia - Day 1
« on: January 15, 2017, 06:46:03 pm »
he's clearly paying attention
ha ha ha...what?

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I like that TWM has become a RR expert in about 5 minutes. Sorry for 'being lying and manipulative,' that sounds exactly like something I'd do when trying to apologize.

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Classifying RR as "lurker lynch" is extremely misleading.
I'll take a look at him. The rationale I'm hearing right now is we should lynch him because he is not contributing.  Isn't that a lurker lynch?  No other points are being made.

But Jake is more damaging to town than RR because he posts reads and votes with very little behind them, and unless you are scrupulous about noticing his posts, it's possible to be influenced by those posts inadvertently.
Well, he is currently lurking. He was already scummy before this started. Also he made a big post about how he will try to play better when he was under pressure and then didn't follow up. So it's pretty likely that that post was just AtE and manipulation. Town!RR would feel compelled to actually do something about this. So even his absence now, is not mere "lurking", but alignment-indicative.
Doing that would be on the same level of saying you're VLA when you're actually not. And I do feel compelled to do something about my bad play, but there's really not much I feel like I can do. I might make one of those big posts like I used to, but anything I think of doing just seems like it won't be very useful.

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Not that's even true. The case against RR is just a bit older.
Was it a case or a reread?

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So to me the options seem like faust, jake or gkrieg.
Just out of curiosity, why am I not in there?
Good question!

Vote: RR
I'd prefer if you listened to the IC

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M92: xkcd Mafia - Day 1
« on: January 15, 2017, 05:20:08 pm »
Whoever started arguing with Awaclus is scummy

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So to me the options seem like faust, jake or gkrieg.
Just out of curiosity, why am I not in there?

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would you vote Jake or gkrieg?
Who? Me or TWM?
you
I'd prefer not to vote for Jake but I guess I would because he's hard to read. I'd reread gkrieg before I'd vote for him, but right now I see no reason not to.

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would you vote Jake or gkrieg?
Who? Me or TWM?

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I'm around, I just really don't know what to say. I've been toying with the idea of making a case on faust, but I just don't know how much substance that would hold.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M92: xkcd Mafia - Day 1
« on: January 15, 2017, 01:21:29 pm »
Any reads, RR?
I think you're pretty towny. And I'd be willing to vote for Faust for pushing a strained 'case' against you.

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