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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 18, 2017, 08:42:39 pm »
I could do Teproc too just for the record.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 18, 2017, 07:59:21 pm »
Hey people, let's get a lynch going. I gotta leave the house soon and wont be back.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 18, 2017, 05:39:38 pm »
Mostly gut but I think Teproc is town. Other than that I'm not really that picky. e and Awaclus aren't doing anything towny, the last few things DatSwan have posted have seemed scummy to me, faust I'm wary about, raptor I'm slightly scumreading, Skumpy I think is town.
Vote: e
Vote: e
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 16, 2017, 05:05:43 pm »
How do you go from this:
To this:
?
#598: Space being super hedgy, which I think is scummy for them.
To this:
In other news, ANdrew, Skumpy and Space are town.
?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 16, 2017, 04:48:37 pm »But you don't have to participate, now everyone knows it's not you anyway...It's a weak Neigborizer, so if they target scum, they die.First choice: DatSwan
Second choice: gkrieg
What's the point of this again?
So that if the neighborizer dies, we know who they targeted.
And why is that important?
Ah.
Or maybe it is and I'm trying to throw everyone off my trail! #mafia #wifom #blessed
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 16, 2017, 03:23:10 pm »It's a weak Neigborizer, so if they target scum, they die.First choice: DatSwan
Second choice: gkrieg
What's the point of this again?
So that if the neighborizer dies, we know who they targeted.
And why is that important?
Ah.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 16, 2017, 03:07:36 pm »First choice: DatSwan
Second choice: gkrieg
What's the point of this again?
So that if the neighborizer dies, we know who they targeted.
And why is that important?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 16, 2017, 02:23:24 pm »
First choice: DatSwan
Second choice: gkrieg
What's the point of this again?
Second choice: gkrieg
What's the point of this again?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 15, 2017, 07:05:26 pm »e (46 posts): Lots of empty early stuff, but really active at the deadline. Wants to push IDPTG a lot. Joins the Dylan mislynch quite close to deadline when people are already starting not to be available for the night. Tentative townread. Though his most recent post says he thinks I'm probably town, so maybe I subconsciously got buddied, though it's not like I actually remembered that at the start of my re-read!
What about this gives you your townread on e?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 15, 2017, 06:30:37 pm »not feeling the space wagon
Sentences. Give us more sentences please. With good words in them.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 14, 2017, 03:14:41 am »Okay, but if it's not made up, then why is it scummy?I don't understand why scum!Space would make something like this up. I mean Skumpy gives an explanation, but I am really not buying that. I think Space as any alignment wouldn't come up with this if it wasn't at least close to the truth.Also, in my head I'm getting really quite mixed up between Skumpy and Raptor, and also Swan a bit, because they're all quite new to me, and also some of them have the Galz "twin claim" thing. I still haven't quite understood what a twin claim actually means.
I really don't believe this. There is nothing at all similar about us, and I would not be surprised to see a scum team of Space/{Raptor,DatSwan} (or both). RR made a similar slip in my first game (!) that helped tell me Swan was town after RR flipped - this I could easily see being a bluff. Not voting yet.
I agree with Skumpy on this, not buying it. This seems really off for Space.
Vote: Space
Not suggesting they made it up exactly, just that it's surprising to me that Space would get those three mixed up. I just expect Space to be a little more familiar and knowledgeable of all three players.
Because the town!Space I know is confident, posting a lot of content, seems to have solid reads. This is the opposite of that.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (now's the time, the time is now!)
« on: November 14, 2017, 03:08:14 am »Speak for yourself. I don't do RVS.Dylan32 (7): faust, LaLight, Galzria, AndrewisFTTW, 2.71828..., IDontPlayThisGame, Xxraptorslayer96
Note: Not including the first two votes (faust and me) as they were on Pg. 4 and were RVS.
Ok but you didn't give an explanation before voting so I just assumed it was RVS.
This was the last post from Dylan before you voted him (again this is pg. 4). Did it have something something to do with this post?
Roles/Modifiers I need to look up:
N2 weak neighborizer - 1
(N1 ascetic) 3-shot tracker - 1
vigilante - 2
odd night doctor, even night neapolitan - 2
jailkeeper + rolecop (same target) - 3
ascetic double motion detector - 3
Weak - does that fail on scum? Kill you if you target scum?
Ascetic - I have no idea in relation to a Mafia game.
Neapolitan - I have no idea in relation to a Mafia game.
role PMs are relevant!
Weak - Dies if target of your action is scum.
Ascetic - Immune to night actions other than night kills.
Neapolitan - A cop that returns vanilla if target is VT, not-vanilla otherwise.
All answers according to the normal version described on mafiascum.
PPE 1: of course he listed the pms...
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 14, 2017, 03:04:55 am »LL not moving his vote for pretty much the whole game is really strange to me but I'll have to go back and a do a reread on him.
Well, I pretty much thought for the whole D1 that Dylan was scum ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
See above.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 14, 2017, 03:04:39 am »I don't understand why scum!Space would make something like this up. I mean Skumpy gives an explanation, but I am really not buying that. I think Space as any alignment wouldn't come up with this if it wasn't at least close to the truth.Also, in my head I'm getting really quite mixed up between Skumpy and Raptor, and also Swan a bit, because they're all quite new to me, and also some of them have the Galz "twin claim" thing. I still haven't quite understood what a twin claim actually means.
I really don't believe this. There is nothing at all similar about us, and I would not be surprised to see a scum team of Space/{Raptor,DatSwan} (or both). RR made a similar slip in my first game (!) that helped tell me Swan was town after RR flipped - this I could easily see being a bluff. Not voting yet.
I agree with Skumpy on this, not buying it. This seems really off for Space.
Vote: Space
Not suggesting they made it up exactly, just that it's surprising to me that Space would get those three mixed up. I just expect Space to be a little more familiar and knowledgeable of all three players.
LL not moving his vote for pretty much the whole game is really strange to me but I'll have to go back and a do a reread on him.I mean, I did the same thing; why do you think it's strange for LaLight but not for me?
It's strange for you too I guess but I would think LL would do a little more poking and prodding, trying to use votes to guage reactions. But maybe I'm misremembering how LL plays.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 13, 2017, 10:54:41 pm »
This is kinda tough. e wanted an alternate wagon. I think if he was scum he would've just gone along with the Dylan lynch without much fuss. The whole "I think this'll be better" comment about from IDPTG seems like a hopeful town comment to me but I could be wrong. The raptor and LL votes are the scummiest to me. raptor not announcing intent to hammer isn't scummy to me, but just the nonchalant "Dylan just seemed more scummy" seems like he was thinking "I better post something to explain why I'm voting" instead of simply voting to get a lynch, which I think is a thought process more common for scum. LL not moving his vote for pretty much the whole game is really strange to me but I'll have to go back and a do a reread on him.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 13, 2017, 10:47:34 pm »
Alright, Dylan votes.
Note: Not including the first two votes (faust and me) as they were on Pg. 4 and were RVS.
LL votes saying he thinks Dylan is scum without really backing it up.
Datswan vote. No original opinion on the wagon and includes the caveat of "def could change on that".
Galz vote.
Me vote.
e vote.
IDPTG vote.
Raptor derp.
Dylan32 (7): faust, LaLight, Galzria, AndrewisFTTW, 2.71828..., IDontPlayThisGame, Xxraptorslayer96
Note: Not including the first two votes (faust and me) as they were on Pg. 4 and were RVS.
LL votes saying he thinks Dylan is scum without really backing it up.
well, I can see why people are voting for me, but what is really strange is that some of them stated scumread on another person and then voted for me, weird. I think Dylan is scum here and I want to vote: Dylan as I don't remember if I am still doing that. I would even say DatSwan is one of the partners.
Datswan vote. No original opinion on the wagon and includes the caveat of "def could change on that".
So, want to lynch Idplay? I mean this is stronger evidence on him than it is on Andrew.Can’t bwleive I’m saying it.... but I agree with Faust.Why?
This actually makes me like the Andrew wagon a lot more then i did before.
Makes me think it could be skum buddy protection lowering wagon count prior to the inevitable last minute piles that will soon ensue.
Fair enough. I could go for that but doubt we gain much support.
vote: dylan seems like a better plan for the time being. Def could change on that but for now seems like a fine choice.
Galz vote.
I am not the biggest fan of this lynch, but I'll vote: Dylan for now. We're creeping up on deadline and are massively spread out. My LL vote is useless right now, Raptor/Awaclus don't seem to be happening, and I don't like the Faust wagon.
For those on Andrew: Why should I vote there over Dylan?
Me vote.
Really? Nobody into a DatSwan lynch?
I'll be around for a few more hours but not for deadline.
Andrew, what do you think of a raptor lynch? Would you move to Dylan if needed? Why should I vote DatSwan?
Raptor I don't feel one way or another about. Yes I'll move to Dylan now that faust isn't coming back and nobody else seems into DatSwan.
Vote: Dylan
e vote.
I won't participate in a last minute change.
Ok, fine. Spoil the party.
Vote: Dylan
IDPTG vote.
Just got back and caught up. I'll be here until deadline.
You want to lynch yourself?
If it would stop a no-lynch, yes, but I don't think we're there.
vote: Dylan L-1
Last time I lynched Dylan over Andrew, it didn't go well. I think this'll be better.
PPE 3
Raptor derp.
vote: Dylan I’ll try to be around but I’m workinh now.
Dylan just seemed more scummy compared to Andrew.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 13, 2017, 10:20:52 pm »Also, in my head I'm getting really quite mixed up between Skumpy and Raptor, and also Swan a bit, because they're all quite new to me, and also some of them have the Galz "twin claim" thing. I still haven't quite understood what a twin claim actually means.
I really don't believe this. There is nothing at all similar about us, and I would not be surprised to see a scum team of Space/{Raptor,DatSwan} (or both). RR made a similar slip in my first game (!) that helped tell me Swan was town after RR flipped - this I could easily see being a bluff. Not voting yet.
I agree with Skumpy on this, not buying it. This seems really off for Space.
Vote: Space
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 13, 2017, 10:06:47 pm »3. Actually makes me think Andrew's scum.
What does exactly?
What doesn't?
TAGGING OUT. TAGGING OUT.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 13, 2017, 10:05:48 pm »3. Is Andrew town, and scum didn't care who got lynched? If so, why Dylan and not Andrew? - They thought they could make an Andrew case today
Yes!
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6. What do we make of faust accusing both Galzria and Dylan? - Nothing. He was wrong. Shit happens.
Yes!
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8. Did Raptor genuinely not realize he was hammering? - I don't think he tries to pull that off given his image at the time.
Yes!
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 13, 2017, 10:01:20 pm »Where can I see you genuinely scumhunt?Awaclus and datswan are scum
Vote: Awaclus
That's not true. I promoted pro-town play for the entire duration of the day, you can see me genuinely scumhunt and I was off wagon for the town lynch.I'd lynch faust or Galzria for the time being.
As a result, I eventually (correctly) identified Galzria as someone I didn't want to lynch.
I'm not sure that's exactly the kind of community-spirited scum-hunting that most people think of when describing particular behaviour as scum-hunting.
I kind of feel like you're being more of a parody of yourself here than you often are. But you're an easy-to-push mislynch target, too, so I won't jump on the wagon yet.
I don't think scum!Space talks to their scum!Awaclus partner in this way, just for future reference.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 13, 2017, 09:59:18 pm »3. Actually makes me think Andrew's scum.
What does exactly?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 13, 2017, 09:55:41 pm »So Faust, your top two scum reads are dead, but it seems to not have phased you at all and you say that Dylan’s reads don’t matter? If I were in your position, I would acknowledge that I have some things to reconsider, but it seems like you are just moving on.
I don't think this is really fair to faust. I wouldn't put much stock into Dylan's reads either and I don't think faust really needs to come out and apologize to everyone. All we can do is "move on".
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 13, 2017, 09:49:19 pm »Just because I think you're wrong doesn't mean I'm dismissing wagon analysis entirely.
In that case I would assume you agree that me being off wagon is a reason to think I'm town.
Alright I'm tagging out. Somebody else take over, I can't handle it anymore.
Well what do we learn from Galz being JK:
1) Who was Galz likely to target for starters? Because that person did not carry the kill (unless skum has RB and skum decided to RB and kill Galz, which I find unlikely).
- He was pushing LL hard so I wanna say its likely he went there. Doesn't absolve LL but def puts him in a more towny light than he was before. Also, he was pretty clear that he suspected XXR as his number 2 pick so probably drops him down the list a small amount.
2) JK/RC Role was worth 3 skum points. So among us we have the following options left:
4 - Skum has "nada" and Town has either Neighborizor or Tracker
5 - Skum has Role Cop and Town has either Vig or Doctor, or both Neighborizor and Tracker
6 - Skum has Role Blocker and Town has Motion Detector or a combo of Vig/Doc and Neighborizor/Tracker
7 - Skum has RC + RB and Town has Motion Detector and either Neighborizor or Tracker, or both Vig and Doc
8 - Skum has Everything and Town has Motion Detector plus either Vig or Doctor, or Motion Detector and both Neighborizor and Tracker
3)
I am trying to find a way to use this to our advantage and all I am coming back with is... this is a shitty situation.
The idea of mass claiming kind of sucks because with Galz flipping as a "3" it significantly increased the liklihood of Skum having Day Chat.
The idea of having one role claim sucks as well IMO. I don't think any remaining role's info would outweigh the outting of themselves.
I was trying to come up with a scenario in which we could claim "skum point value" in order to try to isolate was Skum PR's could be out there. However, everything I think of is too easily manipulated.
The "if I was the neighborizor I would target.." idea seems like it would be an OK gameplan. Would like it if anyone has a downside to it speak up please.
4) Pretty much what I was left with was a Galz re-read.... which was surprisingly un-eventful. More surprisingly, he had like the #3 in post content and it was still the case. He saw LL as skummy, he saw Faust as town, and he mentioned one time (#50) that he read Skumpy as town. Other than that he kind of stayed out of the way - which I suppose makes sense given the power he had.
5) This comes from inexperience - but like.. if there is a Vig they would not of shot N1 right? Especially at Galz? Not anything worth considering there.
Blah. Whatever. More tomorrow. Sleep now.
Alright. ^I think this guy is town.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 13, 2017, 09:41:58 pm »Nowhere have I ever come remotely close to even hinting at that.
You just did that in your previous post.You on the other hand concluded that because you were off of Dylan's wagon, are town. So case closed right? But not only that, that logic only applies to YOU. I just.... how... I... man this is exasperating.
And then you did it again.
Just because I think you're wrong doesn't mean I'm dismissing wagon analysis entirely.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 2 !)
« on: November 13, 2017, 09:21:38 pm »
Actual content coming soon, when I get home.