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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 4)
« on: December 06, 2017, 12:29:59 am »
Wow Skumpy. Dramatic much? You're right though, my reads have been awful this game. Maybe we should lynch you after all!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 4)
« on: December 05, 2017, 11:45:21 pm »
I'll look at some games tomorrow. Gonna watch a movie right now.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 4)
« on: December 05, 2017, 11:32:14 pm »
Anybody have a IDPTG town game handy?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 4)
« on: December 05, 2017, 10:53:51 pm »
Sorry I've been absent. Here's how I used my shots

N1 - Skumpy, obviously it didn't go through.
N2 - xxraptor
N3 - Awaclus (I was going to shoot Space originally, shouldnt've second guessed myself)

So are we lynching Space today? You guys wanna go ahead and yolo it (sorry for saying "yolo")?

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General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff Part III
« on: December 05, 2017, 03:33:30 pm »
Doing some googling, it's definitely The World Is Not Enough, but it might only be that Bond threatens to throw him in the caviar and doesn't actually do it ? I couldn't find a clip. The villain in question was played by Robbie Coltrane, aka Hagrid, which, ok.

I'll check it out when I get home and I'll let you know.

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General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff Part III
« on: December 05, 2017, 12:57:33 pm »
Which one has the Russian villain who falls into a vat of caviar ? That happened right, I didn't imagine it ?

I can't remember that ever happening.

Though in Diamonds Are Forever Bond kills a Blofeld double by pouring face-altering-mud-stuff on top of him. And in the book version of Dr. No the main villain dies after Bond dumps a truckload of guano on top of him. Probably not what you're thinking of though.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 3)
« on: December 04, 2017, 06:07:01 pm »
Where is Space using AtE here?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 3)
« on: December 04, 2017, 04:41:53 pm »
Quote fail. This did not mean to be quoted:

The D2 final vote is interesting. The only not confirmed town on the Teproc lynch are DatSwan and Skumpy. I think one of them is likely to be scum and then that would leave Space or IDPTG. I think we should start with an off wagon lynch, so I want to reread IDPTG as well.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 3)
« on: December 04, 2017, 04:37:46 pm »
Final vote counts:

thread looooocked

D1 Final Vote count


AndrewisFTTW (5): SpaceAnemone, DatSwan, Awaclus, gkrieg13, Dylan32
Dylan32 (7): faust, LaLight, Galzria, AndrewisFTTW, 2.71828..., IDontPlayThisGame, Xxraptorslayer96

not voting (1): Skumpy

with 13 alive, it took 7 to lynch. day 1 ends wednesday, november 8th at 21:00 forum time, in like 0 seconds

mod notes
  • phone

Vote count 2.6

SpaceAnemone (1): IDontPlayThisGame
Teproc (6*): faust, gkrieg13, DatSwan, 2.71828..., Skumpy, AndrewisFTTW
AndrewisFTTW (1): Awaclus
2.71828... (2): Teproc, Xxraptorslayer96

not voting (1) : SpaceAnemone

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. day 2 ends sunday, november 19th at 00:00 forum time, in a few minutes

mod notes
  • andrew has the option to rescind the hammer vote since i did the vote count erroneously. if he doesn't within uh 5 minutes it'll just count.
  • note the first mod quote: please put votes where it's easy for me to find them!
mod quotes:
Schadd, DatSwan is on Teproc (I think)
noted. for the future: i missed datswan's vote because it was at the end of a line in the middle of a big post. to make it easier for me to find your votes, please put them ideally at the start of a line and at the start or end of a post.

D3 Final Vote Count

AndrewisFTTW (2): Awaclus, IDontPlayThisGame
2.71828... (5): DatSwan, AndrewisFTTW, SpaceAnemone, gkrieg13, Skumpy
Awaclus (1): 2.71828...

not voting (0) :

with 8 alive, it took 5 to lynch. lmao it said "day 2 ends..." the whole time

The D2 final vote is interesting. The only not confirmed town on the Teproc lynch are DatSwan and Skumpy. I think one of them is likely to be scum and then that would leave Space or IDPTG. I think we should start with an off wagon lynch, so I want to reread IDPTG as well.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 3)
« on: December 04, 2017, 04:25:54 pm »
LL starting the day (again) with a Space vote:

I like IDPTG’s amount of scumhunting and think it is sincere. I’d like to vote: Space for not posting anything of substance at all :P

Space reads:

I was going to try to do a targeted re-read of everyone tonight, but I'm only through the first four in the list so far, and I'm feeling too tired to focus on more already, so I'll put what I've got here. Of these four, Skumpy feels the most scummy, but I was going through in sign-up order, so I haven't reached Andrew yet, and I'm still feeling the wagon there from D1.

e (46 posts): Lots of empty early stuff, but really active at the deadline. Wants to push IDPTG a lot. Joins the Dylan mislynch quite close to deadline when people are already starting not to be available for the night. Tentative townread. Though his most recent post says he thinks I'm probably town, so maybe I subconsciously got buddied, though it's not like I actually remembered that at the start of my re-read!

Skumpy (44 posts): I still find the "If I were skum" mindset a bit worrying. Also, what's with all that "don't want to vote Swan for reasons I'm not talking about" stuff? Wow, he writes long posts.. I think I've mostly only skimmed things of his before. Very few townies in his reads post at #245, and he misses out IDP and me completely for some reason. Very big on over-explaining his votes: could be a scum thing or could just be a verbosity thing. Made a bit of a show of being willing to switch to Andrew at the end of D1, but actually voting and staying on Dylan. Why is his top scum read at #484 a secret? The unvote at #490 was extra-super-unhelpful because it took a potential vote out of the game at a time when I and probably others on my side of the Atlantic were struggling to be present and about to have to call it a night. Comes into D2 with fishy-looking distributions over the cost numbers for the combinations of possible town roles. Admist at #672 that he hasn't given a lot of towncred... could be something possible scum-buddies mentioned in the night, though.

LL/Teproc (44 posts): Hard to get a read on LL. He seems genuine enough, but equally I could convince myself there's a little hint of the LL I saw when he and I were scum together, so I'm not townreading him as hard as I feel like I otherwise could. Let's see what Teproc says.

DatSwan (63 posts): Lots of early setup speculation founded on something incorrect. Then a bunch of middle posts that seem focused on Faust and Raptor kind of oddly. He gets more helpful towards the deadline, with town-to-scum lists that don't miss people off, and do offer plenty at the town end of the spectrum. He has a confusing number of posts where he seems to be misquoting or something.

PPE 1: Cool, now both of e's two most recent posts support me :-)

^Hedgy on Teproc.

Teproc calling Space town:

Space (3): gkrieg, Swan, ANdrew
Andrew (3): IDPTG, Space, Skumpy
LL (2): Galz, Dylan
Dylan (2): faust, LL
faust (2): Raptor, Awaclus
IDPTG (1): e

Seems pretty safe to bet at least one scum has 2 votes on them.
Is there any reason for this assumption other than basic probability?

Most of it is the basic probability yes (though I have no idea what it actually is, if Space wants to have fun with that), but also what the game felt like rereading it. It fels like there was a certain tension: I think the game would have felt completely dead if all wagons were on town. Harder to tell rereading of course.

Re: e, I think I'm pretty good at reading e, and he usually gives me towntells, especially lately. You'll recall that I had a pretty strong town read on him all game in M108, and here he is giving me nothing. Even on day 2, he just basically feels like he's done nothing this game, and I think that's more of a scum!e trait. Town!e, even if he's not active, is impactful when he posts. He just hasn't been here.

That being said, I think the scummiest player around is Swan. He feels super similar to M108, especially on D2 with the big analysis posts that come to not much.

vote: Swan

In other news, ANdrew, Skumpy and Space are town. Raptor and Awaclus are complete cyphers, faust is somewhere between scummy and null, gkrieg is kinda townie.

Who am I missing ? Right, IDPTG. Townie, I think, but not overly so.

That's D2.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 3)
« on: December 04, 2017, 04:16:27 pm »
First post, vote for LL (Teproc):

Good morning all!

Vote: LL Great to be in a game with you again!

How's things? Feeling scummy this time round?

An early LL read:

LL is being quiet mostly. His talking at corss-purposes to Awaclus about the weak neighbourizer make me think they're not a scum team.

Some early LL "reads"

well, I can see why people are voting for me, but what is really strange is that some of them stated scumread on another person and then voted for me, weird. I think Dylan is scum here and I want to vote: Dylan as I don't remember if I am still doing that. I would even say DatSwan is one of the partners.

Skumpy is really giving me towny vibes as well as faust, though in the case of faust I will indeed think twice. Space is as always null on D1. I am sorry I was not very active, I struggle to do things D1, like, always.

Also I think that IDPTG have some bias thinking I am scum in every game :) by the way, I am really sorry about your lynch in Lost, I needed to survive but I still felt bad.

I prefer Dylan or DatSwan lynch here I think.

^This could point to DatSwan being town. He says Space is null.

More reads from Space:

In that case, who else is on your "not-definitely-town" list?

Everyone other than me. But at your end of it I guess Swanraptorpy and maybe e is creeping that way. Dylan, faust and Galz are in middle ground. IDP and LL are at the townier end of things. I can't do anything about reading Awaclus for now, and I want to see more from gkrieg before judging.

I think e is a problem for me because I'm beginning to feel he's maybe a bit scummy, but that usually happens if he's being a town with wildly different ideas than I have.

^IDP and LL are their towniest.

Sidenote:

OK so with the deadline move, if we play down to the wire I will be at work. I will still have limited access, but all the same here is this FWIW:

Towny:
XXR
Galz
Skumpy

Null/Towny:
Faust
GK

Null/Skummy:
Awaclus
Dylan
Space

Skummy:
Andrew
IDPTG
LL
E!


And, with those re considerations, plus I just don't see me coming off as skummy right now so I kind of don't get it - vote:Andrew
I don't want it to come off as OMGUS, even though I know it will. I just believe a Town!Andrew vote at this point on someone more likely to be lynched. Vote for me just feels off. I don't really like the Dylan lynch anymore either.

I think if we lynch Space and they're scum then DatSwan is cleared.

That's it for D1.

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General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff Part III
« on: December 03, 2017, 12:28:06 am »
Which James Bond film should my girlfriend and I watch tonight?

The world is not enough. That way you won't be missing anything if you spend the whole movie making out.

Die Another Day is worse I think.

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General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff Part III
« on: December 02, 2017, 11:12:31 pm »
Which James Bond film should my girlfriend and I watch tonight?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 3)
« on: December 02, 2017, 10:55:45 pm »
One benefit for me and the other townie of the Vig claiming: of the 3 people whose alignments are unknown, two are scum so any team of two is guaranteed to include scum. This assumes no counterclaim. So I really don't see any reason to delay this.

Not really because you're not an IC. So if/when the vig claims that still leaves a lynchpool of 4, barring a counterclaim of course.

Oh and I'm the vig by the way. Sorry for the sucking and all that.

Also, I can't read any of you guys whatsoever so that's cool. Right now I'd like to lynch Space but I still want to reread. No time this weekend though.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 3)
« on: December 01, 2017, 05:15:37 am »
I think Skumpy is scum.

Share with the class?

I was actually reading his opening to the day as rather towny-ish.

The whole joking around about him possibly being the vig (he's in a good mood it seems), him questioning why a vig claim is even important to seem pro-town (scum counterclaiming would be dumb and a vig claim doesn't really hurt scum much), and him not being nearly as self deprecating as I would expect. Even earlier in the game he wasn't acting how I expected him to, though I wrote it off as him being a little more experienced. In hindsight it seems like the times he was second guessing himself could've been just an act.

Gotta reread and check votes and such tomorrow.

PPE:

I think Skumpy is scum.

Lylo!
The vig!
More PRs?
Vote histories!
Theories on the D3 lynch!
Theories on the N4 kills!

So much to talk about it, and that's your first post? If you're going to incorrectly accuse me, at least give reasons so I can defend myself. I'm trying to start a conversation and all I get is "um, nope. Skum!!!!" It's frustrating. You of all people should know this and know better than to throw out instant accusations based on nothingness, which gives me pause to consider...

I think Skumpy is scum.

Share with the class?

I was actually reading his opening to the day as rather towny-ish.

...and yet it's the people who townread me who worry me more, which is weird because basically every single dead town person townread me.

It's too early to read. Even if you think I'm town, I'm delighted and flattered, but still, take your damn time! I'm going back to null on everybody now, not going to cast any judgments until I've looked through 3 days worth of voting evidence. Preferably after any and all vig's claim so I don't have to do it twice.

^And this is so not normal town!Skumpy.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 3)
« on: December 01, 2017, 04:45:19 am »
I think Skumpy is scum.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee
« on: November 30, 2017, 03:04:55 pm »
his what!!?

The Oxford Dictionary has this to say about "Book":
Noun
"A written or printed work consisting of pages glued or sewn together along one side and bound in covers."

Yeah, I'm writing a book, got a publisher and everything! Political nonfiction. I suspect many people on these forums will disagree with parts of it, but hopefully everyone can learn something about how others think.

Hey arch, put me down for a tentative /in, but please check with me before the game actually starts!
Personally I was hoping for a novel. Oh well.

That comes next, hopefully.

It could probably be treated as a novel depending on your political leanings.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M111: Super Smash Bros Melee
« on: November 29, 2017, 04:12:05 pm »
/in

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 3)
« on: November 28, 2017, 03:59:14 pm »
If think we learn quite a lot from lynching awaclus

Yeah, we learn that you have spent the whole game pushing a town lynch.

He emerges!

And you have too, for whatever that's worth.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 3)
« on: November 28, 2017, 03:10:17 pm »
If think we learn quite a lot from lynching awaclus

Yeah, we learn that you have spent the whole game pushing a town lynch.

He emerges!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 3)
« on: November 27, 2017, 03:14:44 pm »
Does anyone want to even comment on what I am saying about talking about specific pairings???

I kind of did.. I said that I think marginalizing over all possible pairs containing a player is actually what would be good. Your example about disregarding a scum pair based on the identity of the third person kind of missed the point, because you were worrying about thinkinking player A might not be scum just because pair A-B wasn't good, but really we'd have to consider A likely to be scum in A-B, A-C, A-D etc too in order for A to be a good lynch. Enumerating the rest of those pairings is exactly what Skumpy and DatSwan were doing particularly badly, so I agree with you in that limited respect, but I don't agree that it's a bad approach in general.

What I am saying is that gives scum a lot of information over who will be lynched if someone flips scum, and it is wayyyy too early to be talking about entire scumteams at this point.  It also gives scum an opportunity to pair people together to try to line up bad lynches.  I think you want to save your time and just do targeted rereads and look at interactions, instead of trying to exhaustively look at every single pair of scumteams, which tells scum who they should kill.

I agree with this, it's not worth it right now. Besides, we have (had?) a great lynch candidate today! e!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 3)
« on: November 26, 2017, 11:43:43 pm »
Sorry, busy weekend. I'll get back into this tomorrow.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 3)
« on: November 25, 2017, 02:21:44 pm »
Desperate scum!e role fishing. "I'm going to get lynched anyway, I might as well try to find out who the vig is." At least that's what it looks like.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M110: led zeppelin mafia (day 3)
« on: November 24, 2017, 10:07:43 pm »
Role fishing is not cool.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: NM11: anagrams (signups) (gun piss)
« on: November 24, 2017, 08:23:46 pm »
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