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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 6)
« on: September 26, 2015, 10:26:34 pm »
Now watcher dies... well, that's null.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 26, 2015, 10:25:55 pm »Time to take a risk, then.
vote: faust
THIS IS L-1
102 scum points
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 26, 2015, 10:24:59 pm »
So, scratch the 61 scum points to start with. This is more complicated.
which is now zero because faust was the vig
we know that QS was the watcher, because he flipped... so why does mafia not kill him? Watcher is really powerful. Let's go into the perspective of the last mafia player.
Pro killing watcher:
- Remove strongest town PR
- Doesn't reduce the lynch pool
Con killing watcher:
- ??
Does mime have a reason to protect the watcher? I don't think so. Watcher causes town to lynch mafia. This is inherently a bad thing for for mime's, because a) if town is lynching mafia, they aren't lynching mime, and b) if mafia is gone, town has more time to deal with mimes. I don't think it is likely for the last mafia to have thought this, either.
No, it does seem like it is a mistake. That's really bad for Ghacob... like, really bad. this is pretty solid evidence, and as such weights more heavily than anything before... 324 scum points. XP has a lot more mafia experience and is less likely to do this mistake.
Well, I believe that killing the Watcher is the single best strategy for scum here.
I guess there is a nonzero chance that the Mimes jailkept the mafia and the vig shot gkrieg?
which is now zero because faust was the vig
we know that QS was the watcher, because he flipped... so why does mafia not kill him? Watcher is really powerful. Let's go into the perspective of the last mafia player.
Pro killing watcher:
- Remove strongest town PR
- Doesn't reduce the lynch pool
Con killing watcher:
- ??
Does mime have a reason to protect the watcher? I don't think so. Watcher causes town to lynch mafia. This is inherently a bad thing for for mime's, because a) if town is lynching mafia, they aren't lynching mime, and b) if mafia is gone, town has more time to deal with mimes. I don't think it is likely for the last mafia to have thought this, either.
No, it does seem like it is a mistake. That's really bad for Ghacob... like, really bad. this is pretty solid evidence, and as such weights more heavily than anything before... 324 scum points. XP has a lot more mafia experience and is less likely to do this mistake.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 26, 2015, 10:11:56 pm »This pretty much proves to me that the single mafia player left didn't really think their decision through. Which narrows down the lynch pool significantly, I think.
ah, this is interesting. So this was the reason why Ghacob was in the lynchpool.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 26, 2015, 10:09:02 pm »I think I want to lynch among chairs/Ghacob/Xerxes.
oh, now Ghacob is on it too? 61 scum points
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 26, 2015, 10:07:15 pm »I see little reason not to trust you and go with XP, as you appear to be leading, right? Because even if you're a lying scum, XP's flip would confirm it, sealing the win, yeah?yes. mafia needs both townies mislynched to win; for any town player alive not getting mislynched is enough to win
..It actually makes sense as both town and mafia for you to fixate on one of us, as, as long as one of us get lynched, your winning odds go up from/to 50%..I think i mathed that rightLet's see, I'd need you both lynched in order to win, so I guess it'd make sense to lean scum on both? if I give one too much town cred, that could make it less likely for chairs to vig him over me.
but I'd probably just try to be genuine as scum and not worry about results
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 26, 2015, 10:00:09 pm »Started writing a post a few times, didn't get far any time, the big thing I wanted to say was that massclaiming is pro-scum, both mime and mafia
In a slightly different direction, silverspawn hasn't posted at all today; is this the master mimestrat?
Worth a vote:ss
mh. my gut wants to give town points for this, my brain scum points. going after lurkers is an easy thing for scum to do, but this feels genuine.
Alas, 2 scum points
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:55:43 pm »I am an idiot.
This whole time I've been working under the assumption that it was two consecutive nolynches, which told me the optimal strategy was to nolynch every other day or so, based on information.
71 town points.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:55:06 pm »Vote: sudgy
He's scum, lets lynch him.
nice catch.
Actually I am the watcher in this game and I watched Teproc. Sudgy visited Teproc last night and now he's dead. I'll likely die tonight but I did my job catching scum. The game is half over. I'm doing a sacrificial throw so that one of the scum die.
oh, it's because of this. that makes it less impressive.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:53:50 pm »(any alignment lynch is good for mimes)
Not sure if that's true, lynching mafia isn't so great for mime.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 6)
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:51:27 pm »
Like, he had all the mimes on his reads list. He has arguably the most reliable reads, too.
Although, maybe he did shoot. Axxle lost his BP at some point, after all.
He might have even shot Axxle twice, since there is also the JK thing.
Although, maybe he did shoot. Axxle lost his BP at some point, after all.
He might have even shot Axxle twice, since there is also the JK thing.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 6)
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:50:13 pm »
really confused as to why faust didn't shoot though... ?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:49:49 pm »Interesting that we had only one flip. That offers a couple possibilities.
Mimes don't kill.
so... I assume this is XP forgetting that town has a vigilante. This is possible for both mafia and town though.
Without being able to explain why, I feel like it is mildly more likely for mafia. 3 scum points.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:48:24 pm »Ghacob is my strongest town read now... also has the best wagon position.
I forgot that I said that
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 6)
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:48:00 pm »
Awaclus (7): Witherweaver, sudgy, Seprix, QuickSync, Axxle, gkrieg13, XerxesPraelor
Seprix (3): Teproc, chairs, faust
Axxle (2): silverspawn, Awaclus
Witherweaver (1): Ghacob
Being off wagon is good. 27 town points for Ghacob. I also like the isolated position on some random guy.
Seprix (3): Teproc, chairs, faust
Axxle (2): silverspawn, Awaclus
Witherweaver (1): Ghacob
Being off wagon is good. 27 town points for Ghacob. I also like the isolated position on some random guy.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:46:31 pm »vote: awaclus
If he's not mime as I thought, mafia is the next most likely option.
this is complicated... on the one hand, mafia has lots of reason to hammer town here. on the other hand, this is a totally legit reasoning, and the deadline was coming close.
still, 20 scum points
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:44:47 pm »no... not feeling Ghacob. Sorry.
yeah... still not really feeling him
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 6)
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:41:48 pm »
33 town points for Ghacob openly advocating a no-lynch
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:40:18 pm »QuickSync's behavior is making me really want to leave the wagon. Is there really enough time though?
I'm not trying to set up mislynches, but I think if Seprix flips town I'm going to be looking at QuickSync. Faust, wither weaver, awaclus, are all horrible lynches though.
You're like the definition of too scummy to be scum. Its why your such a strong town read for me.
strong town read? have another 9 town points.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:38:34 pm »There are 4 scum. What's bad about being willing to lynch lots of people? And it's not that many I think - Axxle, Xerxes, WW. These are my favorites.
wow, look at this. scum, ?, scum. Granted, the scum are mime's, but mime's are more likely to play scummy than town.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:37:11 pm »There enough time to start a new wagon. Look: Vote: Xerxes
oh, uh. 56 scum points.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:34:51 pm »Teproc/Faust/Chairs/gkrieg/ghacob are towny
ww/egorK are null
silverspawn/Quiksync/Seprix are scummy
Awaclus/sudgy are mimey
For now, this'll have to do.
Listing his partner... as a mime. Mh. I think scum might be too afraid to do this. 19 town points.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:29:11 pm »I do think we should be wary of lynching mimes even today. If we lynch one mime, I think it makes the odds of mimes winning go up by quite a bit. We shouldn't just not lynch anybody that's scummy, of course, but I don't think we should lynch someone like faust because he's so scummy he might be a mime. I will vote faust if that's the only lynch that would happen though.
isn't this the exact opposite of what sudgy said earlier? not really relevant for his partner, though.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:26:53 pm »So here are my thoughts on rereading the first 4 pages(50 per page) of the thread. XP comes off horribly scummy for his VT/not VT/whatever claim. He says that it is boring to not be scum/mime in this setup, regardless of the PR. I disagree with that, but whatever. In college mafia, he wasn't very scummy, because I think he paid more attention that game to his posting than he did here. This claim here is kinda similar to the claim he had on the first day of mist born mafia, for which he was lynched D1, because of claiming third party because he didn't read the win condition carefully. So it's hard for me to call on this one, because in the two games I've played, he got lynched when he was town because he acted scummy, or not lynched because he was scum and was paying more attention. I don't think anyone is scummy at all for being on his wagon.
these are weird conclusions. what he is saying there should make XP towny.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:24:40 pm »XP: Town/Null
same as before, so 1 town point because this reads list has slightly more credibility