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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day3)
« on: November 13, 2015, 09:11:43 am »
I targetted PPS to create a Neighborhood.  It's a non-killing, targetting action.

A very good point.

Okay, this should be the nail in the coffin.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day3)
« on: November 13, 2015, 08:51:51 am »
Also there is no way of confirming the absorbing part prior to N4, right? Tonight you would be targetted, the following night you would be able to use the role.

Surviving until D5 is probably already pretty much a win for you at this point.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day3)
« on: November 13, 2015, 08:50:20 am »
At this point I could confirm my status by resetting a lynch on faust or someone can target me tonight and I can confirm what I absorbed last night. So, do you guys really think I would just fakeclaim all this confirmable stuff just live one more miserable day? Can we please lynch WW, now?

Yeah, cool, let's try to get the conf!town guy lynched!

Also confirming that you have absorbing powers does not confirm you are town.

Right, I agree, pushing you to a lynch right now is not a good plan, my point is it is actually confirmable.

Also, I concede your point that confirming my powers do not prove me town it just proves I am not lying which is the entire basis for thinking I may not be town. That I have put all of this out there is simply not what any scum player, even myself, would do.

You can have absorbing powers and the whole rest of your claim can still be a lie.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day3)
« on: November 13, 2015, 08:26:50 am »
At this point I could confirm my status by resetting a lynch on faust or someone can target me tonight and I can confirm what I absorbed last night. So, do you guys really think I would just fakeclaim all this confirmable stuff just live one more miserable day? Can we please lynch WW, now?

Yeah, cool, let's try to get the conf!town guy lynched!

Also confirming that you have absorbing powers does not confirm you are town.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day3)
« on: November 13, 2015, 08:25:46 am »
Yeah, uh... It's still not possible to target 2 different people with that role. And the role does in no way fit the "2 roles with 2 modifiers" thing. It's three roles if you want to express it like that at all.

Also, Governor is generally an anti-town power.

Whatever. Your whole argument just fell apart and you are grasping at straws now. I can cop and I can govern. Two separate targeting powers at night. Absorbing modifies both powers just as I asserted while trying to not make it too clear how I could be thwarted. I have 2 power roles and both are modified.

A town governor who has cop results is in no way an anti-town power.

I don't see how my argument fell apart at all...

You say you can cop and govern; why should we believe you? Xerxes stated clearly that he cannot use his role-modifier seperately, so you claiming you can is inconsistent with that. Absorbing arguably modifies the Governor since it resets the list, but really it does not modify "copping" in any way. Also, Absorber is a role unto itself and not a modifier.

You lied. You try to cover up now, and as expected you're doing a decent job, but this cannot undo that you A) claimed something earlier that you by now took back (i.e. that you have 2 roles with 2 modifiers) and B) that you claim your role works in a way that does not fit with the way someone else claims such a role would work.

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General Discussion / Re: Dr. Who
« on: November 13, 2015, 08:18:56 am »
So, Series 9.

Someone convince me that this series isn't the best of the modern Doctor Who.  Each of the last four episodes is as good as or better than Blink.

Did someone replace Steven Moffat with a Zygon?

I read some article with a lot of criticism of this series that was actually spot-on. Like, they spend way too much time on earth. Why don't we get to see other planets? Also, the plot usually falls apart upon closer inspection. They do a lot just for cool scenes (electric guitar on a tank?) that does not make much narrative sense. And so on.

But somehow all this doesn't make this series less enjoyable. I think a lot comes down to great acting (Capaldi is awesome, Coleman is awesome, Maisie Williams was great, that woman playing Missy...); also the two-parter format works out perfectly.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M69: GOP Mafia (Russian Agents win!)
« on: November 13, 2015, 08:11:53 am »
QTs:

Mafia
Old Speccy
New Speccy
Super exciting Neighborhood QT

No mod QT?

If you don't want to share it, that is fine, or if you just didn't have one that is fine too, but I do like to read from the mod's perspective...

There is a mod QT, but I didn't write a lot besides prewrites for flavor and such. Basically no game commentary.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day3)
« on: November 13, 2015, 07:25:35 am »
If anyone targetted PPS at some point, that would probably be a good thing to claim.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day3)
« on: November 13, 2015, 07:21:18 am »
Yeah, uh... It's still not possible to target 2 different people with that role. And the role does in no way fit the "2 roles with 2 modifiers" thing. It's three roles if you want to express it like that at all.

Also, Governor is generally an anti-town power.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M69: GOP Mafia (Russian Agents win!)
« on: November 13, 2015, 03:05:29 am »
4. what is the comment in /146 about "seeing if at least one mafia can read" about?

Well, after the no lynch, there was no need for you to kill, by the rules of the game town would have been forced to lynch first. Yet this was never considered.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day3)
« on: November 13, 2015, 03:01:55 am »
I also want to kill him because he is not helping the town, and PPS got a guilty result.

Actually its more likely that PPS is lying.
How is it more likely? Is there a statistic?

Yes. PPS is 100% lying, WW is not.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day3)
« on: November 13, 2015, 03:00:56 am »
I also want to kill him because he is not helping the town, and PPS got a guilty result.
Then vote him.
I will vote in the morning after there is more discussion. I try not to throw votes around, that's no fun for the mods.

As a mod, I disagree.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day3)
« on: November 12, 2015, 05:12:02 pm »
A thought I had earlier: to those who seem so certain that my dual result on Jimmmmm must be a tampered result... since you are so certain... what is the mechanism by which that occurred, specifically?

The mechanism of your brain telling you to spice up your fakeclaim.

So, you assert that the dual result was all part of a fake claim? To what end does that go?
The fact is I got a dual result which would be insanely asinine to claim otherwise. You say this part of a fakeclaim but can't explain the narrative by which that would make any sense.

WIFOM.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M69: GOP Mafia (Day 6)
« on: November 12, 2015, 05:10:21 pm »
This time, standing in front of the same massive door, Igor felt at ease. As he stepped into the room, Putin stood up from behind his desk and rushed to greet him.

"Igor - my friend! It is good to see you!" He hugged Igor. "You know, you had me worried quite a bit there."

Igor himself had been under intense stress this last couple of days. With only one of his agents in the field of the final three, things could have gone wrong any time, especially considering the extreme measures he had to take to push Donald Trump out of the race. But now it was done.

Putin laughed. "I thought our agent was done for when she bragged about knowing me personally in the one debate. But the Americans never had a clue, had they?"

"They are still entirely oblivious to our scheme", confirmed Igor.

"Good, good. Now let us see our presidential hopeful firsthand." He clicked on some device, and a familiar face appeared on one of the walls."

"Miss Fiorina", said Putin with a warm voice, "congratulations! It is good to see you again..."


Twistedarcher has been lynched! He was Mike Huckabee, the Vanilla Townie!

Joseph2302, who was Bobby Jindal, the Vanilla Townie, has been endgamed.

The scum team of yuma, Edmund and Hydrad wins!

yuma is MVP!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M69: GOP Mafia (Day 6)
« on: November 12, 2015, 04:58:44 pm »
Day 6 Final Vote Count

Twistedarcher (2): yuma, Joseph2302
yuma (1): Twistedarcher

Not Voting (0)

With 3 alive, it took 2 to lynch.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day3)
« on: November 12, 2015, 04:57:19 pm »
A thought I had earlier: to those who seem so certain that my dual result on Jimmmmm must be a tampered result... since you are so certain... what is the mechanism by which that occurred, specifically?

The mechanism of your brain telling you to spice up your fakeclaim.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day3)
« on: November 12, 2015, 04:55:11 pm »
-.-
This is my answer:
Then the result would be Guilty, because he's not town-aligned.

When this game is over and you see that I wasn't lying will it cause you to question your godlike knowledge of setups in the future or will you forever assume you just have it all sorted out just perfectly?

The latter.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day3)
« on: November 12, 2015, 03:17:22 pm »
-.-
This is my answer:
Then the result would be Guilty, because he's not town-aligned.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day3)
« on: November 12, 2015, 03:16:57 pm »
Actually, no I think I understand. Your role isn't actually a cop - it simply gives the result of whether a person's role is good for town or bad for town. But then why does your result on WW mean he's scum?

Guilty means this person's win condition is not in line with Town. Not Guilty means this person's win condition is inline with town.
Survivor looks like a role which has both attributes. Someone else suggested this possibility and it certainly made sense to me. If Jimmmmm is a survivor I can see why he would not want to claim it and also why there's no necessity to lynch him. It does however make him a decent lynch candidate. I say the result is informative while everyone else seems to dismiss it as obviously tampered.
It looks to me like there can be werewolves, cultists and serial killers in the game, so I think with some funky role combination getting dual results is well within reason.

If you Cop a Survivor you should certainly get a Guilty (i.e., not Town) result.

Then the result would be Guilty, because he's not town-aligned.
Okay, so what if he is a Seraph Knight Survivor?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day3)
« on: November 12, 2015, 02:00:54 pm »
Have you met PPS before?

I don't remember town!PPS fakeclaiming on purpose. Care to show me a game where he did that?

Well, I don't know about fake claiming, but certainly crazy claiming a la Dice Mafia.

So you have nothing to back up your read. Cool.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day3)
« on: November 12, 2015, 01:30:36 pm »
It would be very funny indeed if scum WW/PPS cooked this up to get WW lynched because that in some way benefits them, and now WW is desperately trying to get lynched over his scumpartner.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day3)
« on: November 12, 2015, 01:29:28 pm »
Have you met PPS before?

I don't remember town!PPS fakeclaiming on purpose. Care to show me a game where he did that?

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: F.DS Nomic 2 - Game Started, Jimmmmm's turn
« on: November 12, 2015, 01:28:32 pm »
I am good with this, but I don't think the second veto will see much use.

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: F.DS Nomic 2 - Game Started, Jimmmmm's turn
« on: November 12, 2015, 01:26:56 pm »
Clear enough. I'll be voting against, mind.

Why would you vote against it?

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