And again my point in rebuttal to what you originally said is: if you intended from the start to eliminate omgus from your play why did you not tell everyone of this new found revelation at the start of the game? Why wait until you are called out in it to bring it up. Too convenient
But you know what is most frustrating? When you feel like you have a really good read on a player, let yourself get talked out of it by other players and then lose the game because, or partially because of it. That I am holding my ground had nothing to do with you personally, but from bitter experience of being right before and not standing my ground. I think I am onto something good here. You will disagree no matter what, that is a given. If something better comes up I'll consider that as well, but I am not going to change my read on you just because you say I should.This is something I completely expect scum!yuma to do because it fits with the narrative of a prior game. I would hope that town!yuma tries to live in the present a bit more.
I honestly don't see how you could think that RR acts the same as his old meta here.Switch Mafia-I was very defensive. Blitz Mafia-I was very defensive. I flipped town in both of those.We've been over this. I'm a very defensive player.So was/am I as scum. I'm sorry, it's just the thing I'm seeing more and more is that this defensiveness seems very like scum!me.
Except you weren't until I called you out. Since then you reverted to your old meta. Prior to that you were a different beast.
So your mind is set, RR can do nothing anymore to change it? That's anti-town play.no problem
I have more of an issue with the fact that you're probably scum
What would make you think that RR is town?
If he had acted like he typically acted when faced with persistent and aggressive pressure. But he didn't. Well at least not until I pointed out that he hadn't. That he is doing it now is too little too late.
Also RR has still failed to respond to the posts that he incorrectly stated I didn't respond to....
I would like you to find scum.
I would like you to find scum.
How does a Joseph strike your fancy?
Huh? It is linked to this game. The question is, at this point in the game, is there anything RR could do to make you think he is town?eh... I don't get it. I agree that it is a non-answer, but that was inherent to the question. How could you answer it meaningfully?
There are clear town traits that you can name. Some things make specific players more likely town. You can state what they are.
Isn't that just a theoretical question that is in no way linked to this game specifically?
I don't have a catalog of scum and town traits. I look at something and then apply reason and intuition. I tend not to give too much credit to arguments that don't take a player's personality into perspective.
I see. So, Faust, as an excellent Mafia player, what do you think the best argument for scum RR is? Is it the fact that I haven't OMGUSed? Is it the fact that I am not a robot and I don't do the exact same thing every time? Or is it something else?
To be clear I don't hold it against people for trying to convince me away from a case or read I have. That is their perogative as scum. It means they are playing well.
Yes... I didn't mean to say you did that. I meant that if you would do that, it would be scummy.I haven't wagon hopped, and that made people see me as scum. I don't know what hedging is? Is that not being sure between two things? I haven't done that. And with no job and little school, I would like to consider myself very active.What would make you think that RR is scum?
Well, the usual I suppose... convenient wagon-hopping, hedging, being less active than usual. Maybe if someone supported my view on the RR issue (because that might be a scum partner). Also my read may change depending on flips. Or claims.
I would like you to find scum.
Hydrad finally voted. Nothing he has said has been too towny though. Might be because catching up is hard. I'm keeping my vote there for now.
I could be swayed to vote for Haddock. I have a gut scum read on him. Coupled with what happened at the beginning of the day and his reaction to it.
PPE
eh... I don't get it. I agree that it is a non-answer, but that was inherent to the question. How could you answer it meaningfully?
What would make you think that RR is scum?
That's a non-answer, and I think it shows may be suffering from confirmation bias.no problem
I have more of an issue with the fact that you're probably scum
What would make you think that RR is town?
towny... things? things that I see him doing more as town than as scum?
It's a pretty general question. But I barely get town vibes from him this game, and he has done a bunch of scummy things instead.
no problem
I have more of an issue with the fact that you're probably scum
There is this thing called sarcasm. You should check it out some time.Even though this is defending me, I am next-to-positive he was talking about Hydrad.I don't like this lynch. Too easy, too convenient. Has the full markings of a mislynch.
Yeah, I agree... wait, we weren't talking about RR?
Jokes aside?
I don't like this lynch. Too easy, too convenient. Has the full markings of a mislynch.
I have a few questions for Yuma, I'd like Faust to answer them to (you obviously don't have to).
1. Who are you most frustrated with this game?
2. Who do you think will get lynched today?
3. What day do you think you'll die on?
4. Do you think anything personal is going on with anyone?
Thanks guys for a speedy response!
your age has no factor in this case. So don't use it as a defense.
This is a quote from yuma in the M70 spectator QT:QuoteAnd my read on RR was tempered by the fact that he is a 13 year old kid. Having played RL mafia with a 13 year old that was pretty much exactly what I expected regardless of alignment. That mitigated a lot of his scumminess.
What's your point?
your age has no factor in this case. So don't use it as a defense.
And my read on RR was tempered by the fact that he is a 13 year old kid. Having played RL mafia with a 13 year old that was pretty much exactly what I expected regardless of alignment. That mitigated a lot of his scumminess.
I would note, in SS's final quote from the RR Magnum Opus (RRMO from here on out), RR uses the "as scum I would do..." tactic.
That's a huge scumtell for newbies, in my experience/opinion.
I don't think he would be frustrated like this as scum.
You don't think he would make a long emotion-targetting post as !wagon!firstTime!Scum!RR? Or just no frustration?
