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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 09, 2021, 11:52:13 am »
pubby has not targeted anyone last night.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 09, 2021, 11:48:46 am »
Lover Masons are kind of a yucky role. At that point, you might as well have a single player who is a doublevoter. That's my hot take.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 09, 2021, 11:46:16 am »
Eh. If Swowl is not scum then this game is over.
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General Discussion / Re: Maths thread.
« on: September 08, 2021, 06:57:37 am »Now I am left wondering for which primes p the equationI came up with a proof that 5 is a prime number.
5x5 = 25 = 4! +1, so 5 is not divisible by 2, 3, or 4.
Using the same type of process, I have proved that 3 is prime.
3x3 = 9 = 2^3 + 1, so 3 is not divisible by 2.
p^k = n x (p-1)! + 1
has an integer solution (k,n).
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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« on: September 08, 2021, 06:45:25 am »When-gain and when-buy both happen AFTER gaining/buying, respectively. And all official cards that trigger from something being played either say "when a card is played, first X" or "after a card is played, X," for clarity's sake.Ah, you are right of course, I had some sort of brainfart. Unfortunately it is too late to change now. I guess the submitted version would resolve after the attack. Which makes it slightly stronger (against discard attacks), but also more tricky to remember.
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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: September 08, 2021, 02:17:44 am »I follow ridiculously little German politics (or politics in general, nowadays), but my cautionary expression of our probable next leader is that he's kind of an idiot.But from this it is unclear whether you talk about a specific candidate, or all of them.
I do think that the current frontrunner (this seems to change frequently... I mean Scholz) is least worthy of the label "idiot". There are several other unflattering labels that I have in store for him though.
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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« on: September 07, 2021, 10:47:26 am »No? I figure when-X effects always happen before X. This is like a when-play effect. But I guess official cards tend to come with the "first" for clarification.QuoteStronghold - $3
Action/Duration
+2 Actions
The first time any player (including you) plays an Attack before the start of your next turn, +2 Cards.
Clarification: This stays in play until the next turn if you did not play an Attack after playing it, and otherwise is discarded on the same turn.
I don't think it's clear whether you get the +2 Cards before or after the Attack is resolved.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 07, 2021, 09:06:09 am »
If scum wins this because they redirected me to a Deathproof Survivor that then joins their side... I am going to be in equal parts impressed and offended.
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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #127: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words
« on: September 07, 2021, 06:11:44 am »
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Stronghold - $3
Action/Duration
+2 Actions
The first time any player (including you) plays an Attack before the start of your next turn, +2 Cards.
Clarification: This stays in play until the next turn if you did not play an Attack after playing it, and otherwise is discarded on the same turn.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 07, 2021, 01:37:22 am »
And by scum I mean mafia-scum.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 07, 2021, 01:36:55 am »
Well. I would have liked to see pubby's claim.
It is very likely that Swowl is just Deathproof scum. This is all theatrics.
It is very likely that Swowl is just Deathproof scum. This is all theatrics.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 06, 2021, 04:37:36 pm »I don't think there's any benefit to me claiming other than saying my character is obscure and hasn't been mentioned by joth.You seem very peroccupied with flavor for some reason, but we actually want to know your role.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 06, 2021, 04:14:40 pm »there are no weird novel gimmicks.I think mathdude is our next scum.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 06, 2021, 04:14:02 pm »What are the options?I'm the Mayor of Munchkinland and I get to throw a parade only on nights after we exile Bad Witches. I have obviously done nothing at nights.What does that mean? Do you have a proper role description?
My role description calls it a "unique" role. There are 3 potential parade options. On nights when I can throw a large, I choose 1 of them. It appears to be a reuse of the role pubby had in Dwarf Mafia, which I believe he never got to use.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 06, 2021, 03:53:10 pm »I'm the Mayor of Munchkinland and I get to throw a parade only on nights after we exile Bad Witches. I have obviously done nothing at nights.What does that mean? Do you have a proper role description?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 06, 2021, 03:41:09 pm »
I'm sure there is some scenario in which Swowl is telling the truth... but at worst he's a Survivor, so that's no real loss there.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 06, 2021, 01:17:21 pm »
Well well.
I am Scarecrow, and I am a Tracker.
N1 I targeted EFHW, she targeted iguana N1 (as claimed).
N2 I targeted Swowl. The result was that he targeted MiX.
Vote: Swowl
I am Scarecrow, and I am a Tracker.
N1 I targeted EFHW, she targeted iguana N1 (as claimed).
N2 I targeted Swowl. The result was that he targeted MiX.
Vote: Swowl
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 06, 2021, 04:41:36 am »
My concentration is fading. I have returned from my VLA sick, unfortunately. But as of right now I don't think Glooble/iguana should be treated as ICs.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 06, 2021, 04:29:13 am »
It's curious that pubby was pushing hard for his GID theory, but I don't think that means he couldn't be partnered with them. If scum!GI were already set up to claim Masons then that would work out fine.
The early Dylan wagon on D2 is me, Glooble, Didds, igauna. This is again a point against the GID theory, like they would all three vote in concert like that.
Galzria has a lot of quite mysterious posts in early D2, like he has some sort of additional info, but I don't see where that would come from.
The early Dylan wagon on D2 is me, Glooble, Didds, igauna. This is again a point against the GID theory, like they would all three vote in concert like that.
Galzria has a lot of quite mysterious posts in early D2, like he has some sort of additional info, but I don't see where that would come from.
IF the team is GPD, I'm in trouble tonight. It would mean all my reads are correct, and everyone town reads me. That would make me a huge liability for the scum team. Also, IF the team is GPD, MiX's reads are kind of lousy this game. Just sayin'. Right now MiX is not exactly projecting belief in GPD. Those two things would put me at a real risk of dying tonight. THEREFORE, I need to share some things with y'all now on the chance that I won't be able to do it later because I'll be dead.This reasoning does not make sense from a Mason. If iguana is telling the truth then he could just share this with Glooble at night and he wouldn't need to worry about dying without being able to tell people about it.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 06, 2021, 03:51:24 am »
First thing of note:
Also there is the thing where Glooble votes pubby after pubby voting iguana. Which is... eh. Glooble indicated that it was role-related, and it does make a bit of sense with the Mason claim.
Oh on the other hand Glooble leaves that wagon immediately afterwards. I guess the evidence is not as strong as I'd hoped.
The whole Galz/e showdown at the end of D1 is unfortunately not very telling as it's tvt. It is notable that MiX/Galz try starting an alternate wagon on Didds and that goes nowhere. That makes Didds somewhat more scummy.
that is my D1 commentary.
Hypothetically, if we mass claim, then scum knows who is the doctor to roleblock and who is the tracker to shoot D1 and who is the vigilante to redirect onto the IC and we're screwed. We never get to catch scum out on their lying D1 claims because they know all of our powers and how to thwart them while we still know nothing real about them.It seems that Masons would disproportionately benefit from a massclaim, yet both iguana and Glooble are arguing against it.
Mass claim is bad.
This kind of fits with the Mason claim, but it's nothing solid.Hypothetically, if we mass claim, then scum knows who is the doctor to roleblock and who is the tracker to shoot D1 and who is the vigilante to redirect onto the IC and we're screwed. We never get to catch scum out on their lying D1 claims because they know all of our powers and how to thwart them while we still know nothing real about them.
Mass claim is bad.
A lot of assumptions (knowledge?) about what powers scum has here; probably means nothing, but I wanted to note it for later just in case. Besides that, I agree.
I think this post from Dylan is a little bit scummy. It seems disingenuous to me. Iguana is clearly using hypothetical examples to make a point, and implying that he's somehow letting his secret setup knowledge slip is... weird.
I'm never useful day 1. I usually can't develop scumreads this early.this is just scummy.
Also there is the thing where Glooble votes pubby after pubby voting iguana. Which is... eh. Glooble indicated that it was role-related, and it does make a bit of sense with the Mason claim.
Still mad about this. iguana never answered, and it's a mischaracterization of my posts.Faust has 9 posts on the topic, amounting to 326 words and 1870 characters.Can you tell me which posts these are supposed to be?
Vote Count 1.3.MiX.2This is interesting. If iguana/Glooble are scum then Didds likely is not. If Didds is town... well, scum can really be anywhere in that vote count, they have 2 town wagons and can relax.
WestCoastDidds (4): Galzria, iguanaiguana, Glooble, EFHW
2.71828.... (3): Swowl, Awaclus, MiX
Glooble (1): Dylan32
iguanaiguana (1): pubby
EFHW (1): 2.71828....
faust (1): mathdude
Galzria (1): faust
Not voting (1): WestCoastDidds
Oh on the other hand Glooble leaves that wagon immediately afterwards. I guess the evidence is not as strong as I'd hoped.
The whole Galz/e showdown at the end of D1 is unfortunately not very telling as it's tvt. It is notable that MiX/Galz try starting an alternate wagon on Didds and that goes nowhere. That makes Didds somewhat more scummy.
that is my D1 commentary.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 06, 2021, 03:36:53 am »
@iguana & Glooble: Do you have daychat?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 06, 2021, 03:36:34 am »I don't think it's best for me to claim just yet. I will do some rereading now, feel free to skip me in the order.EBWOP
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 06, 2021, 03:24:37 am »
I don't think it's best for me to claim just yet. I will do some rereading now, feel free to ski me in the order.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 05, 2021, 02:33:25 pm »
I'm here. But I still need to reread and figure out why MiX was so convinced by the Mason claim. Until such time I would rather not have any hasty decisions made. But on the other hand I also see a need to move the game forward. I hope to get the necessary reading done early tomorrow.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 02, 2021, 05:35:38 pm »Someone with more time and patience than me write a wall post about how faust and Didds are partnered. I don't think I can write one today.We're town partners, maybe.
I don't have a complete grasp on the current vote count, but I'm happy to leave my vote where it is. I won't return before the deadline.