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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 17, 2021, 01:22:34 am »
I wanted to contrast this with a town game of Jimmmmm's, and in BM32, he was the D1 misexile, but  at no point did that pressure cause a flurry of activity like in the scum games I referenced.

BM32 is not an example of anything. It was a Bastard game in which I had what felt like a crippling post restriction and I was somewhat relieved when it was over for me.
You are free to offer up a better example.

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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #128: Look at the trash!
« on: September 16, 2021, 03:32:45 pm »
It's not just the first Estate that gets a Wish.  It's every Estate trashed with this until someone trashes something more expensive than $2.  Does that make it too powerful then?  It's not just a $6 gainer (particularly early game), it's a $6 gainer that gains a card which matches well with the first hand you draw it with.  Should it then cost $6 instead of $5?  At that point, it's almost useless for trashing Estates/Coppers, and the card is already significantly weakened later in the game.  I think I'm okay leaving it at $5.
Oh I misunderstood. Then it's definitely too strong. It effectively remodels Estates into $6 cards... Expand costs $7 and only goes up to $5 for Estates. And even if it doesn't work anymore you still get a Priest effect, which is a very solid $4.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 03:04:49 pm »
People seem to scumread Jimmmmm. This seems to be happening all the way from the start of the game. Unlike EFHW, people in this line of thinking don't seem to be thinking past it. So if this becomes a problem, we might as well exile Jimmmmm.
By "people", are you referring to anyone other than me?

joth as well, it seems like.
joth has definitely not been voting for (or, to my knowledge, scumreading) Jimmmmm since the start of the game. Indeed, he was part of the EFHW wagon before.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 03:02:46 pm »
People seem to scumread Jimmmmm. This seems to be happening all the way from the start of the game. Unlike EFHW, people in this line of thinking don't seem to be thinking past it. So if this becomes a problem, we might as well exile Jimmmmm.
By "people", are you referring to anyone other than me?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 02:57:39 pm »
Yes, I'm sure exiling a scum will do a lot for our ability to see who the remaining scum is.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 02:53:51 pm »
Honestly, if we want to exile someone for thread health, Jimmmmm's the way to go.
I had my disagreements with Jimmmmm, but this is uncalled for.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 02:49:32 pm »
Swowl is not here at all.
I thought if last game taught you anything, it would be to not give people who aren't around a free pass.

I guess that means he took my criticism to heart and decided he needs to do something to surprise me.

Were you actually surprised by this?
Why do you want to know?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 02:43:46 pm »
I guess that means he took my criticism to heart and decided he needs to do something to surprise me.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 02:42:00 pm »
MiX has decided he want to look at
LL/iguana/Swowl/gkrieg/e
because they weren't talked about much, then proceeded to vote for the most talked about within that group, and now is back to voting for the player who got the most votes this game and is not part of that group mentioned above - and that's after she did what he wanted and went from voting his supposed townread Jimmmmm to voting gkrieg.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 02:37:28 pm »
vote: mathdude

Are you trying to do a faust? I had to go back to page 4 (and I do 50 post pages) to find your last contributions, and math was not mentioned.

vote: gkrieg
Is this the time you choose to abandon the Jimmmmm wagon?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 02:32:06 pm »
Jimmmmm is a very easy D1 misexile. He can't solve then and so he doesn't have much else other than activity tells. It's also a voice worth shutting down for later in the game. This is similar to gkrieg, honestly.

Yes he can be scum here. But there's not much else saying he's scum other than that.

Faust is only reading half of my posts and that's super townie. I understand scumreading me for buddying him, but saying I've been overemphasizing being town!MiX just ignores everything I've done into "it's townie, therefore it's scummy".

Ok, so the scum team is MiX-Jimmmm and ... who else do we think?
Didds is the third, clearly.

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Weekly Design Contest / Re: Weekly Design Contest #128: Look at the trash!
« on: September 16, 2021, 12:05:41 pm »
I'm not sure if this has too much first-player advantage, or gives too much strength to a 5/2 opening.  But here's my submission anyway:



You can start by trashing a Copper to gain a Wish, but as soon as someone trashes an Estate, that is the benchmark (and a Copper usually gets you nothing unless Poor House is in the Kingdom).  But once someone self-trashes with this card, it becomes a much weaker card to everyone, since the benchmark is now trashing a minimum $5 card to get a Wish.  The consolation, $2 and trash to gain a card $1 more is fairly weak at $5 IMO, so you need to use it wisely.  And once someone trashes theirs, you will likely want to trash yours too.  But if someone trashes a $6 card with it first (usually would only happen with a $7 card in the Kingdom, like Bank, King's Court, etc), then even self-trashing the card is weakened.
Yeah I think this is too swingy by only giving the first Estate the Wish. If this used Exile instead, then everyone could get a Wish from their first Copper/Estate. But then this guarantees 2 Wishes, which might make it too powerful.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 11:58:28 am »
Regarding Jimmmmm's textwalls above (re-digging into faust, now also looking at detail into EFHW), can someone who knows his meta better help me interpret them?  I'm not sure what to make of this effort.

Does scum!Jimmmmm dig in and try to find another valid wagon when he comes under fire?  Is this town!Jimmmmm honestly trying to seek out the truth?  Or is this is standard defense/response for him when he's up against a wall, regardless of alignment, making it NAI?

Unvote for now.
I think the problem with answering this is that Jimmmmm has not been playing a lot recently, and when he did oftentimes he just ended up lurking and eventually getting exiled/replaced for that.

I looked at the last 2 of his scum games: RMM56 and RMM54. Jimmmm was Serial Killer in RMM56, so that's maybe not the best representation. In that game, there is definitely a flurry of activity from Jimmmmm after he gets his first wagon (read from here).

In RMM54, he similarly reacts with wallposting to pressure, see e.g. this post coming after a push, which is significantly longer than anything he posted before in that game. It's followed by more rereads.
I wanted to contrast this with a town game of Jimmmmm's, and in BM32, he was the D1 misexile, but  at no point did that pressure cause a flurry of activity like in the scum games I referenced.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 11:57:11 am »
You've convinced me. I've also convinced myself.

vote: Jimmmmm

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 11:49:27 am »
Why are we changing directions when we have two perfectly cromulent wagons right here?
At this point, it is a bit unclear which wagons you are referring to with this.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 11:48:20 am »
Vote: MiX

the time has come.

Should I even bother asking for reasons?
I don't know if you should. I definitely respond more positively to a third party asking for reasons for my vote than the person I'm voting for.

Everything MiX has done this game feels like he's performing town. The overinflated townread on me. The pivot toward "exile all lurkers" (without using that terminology). Nothing MiX has done this game is surprising because he's not actually concerned with finding scum.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 11:40:58 am »
Hey faust, why oh why are you scumreading me? I'm so invested in this question and believe you will provide a satisfactory answer!
It's because you are scum!



Was it everything that you hoped for?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 11:39:35 am »
Regarding Jimmmmm's textwalls above (re-digging into faust, now also looking at detail into EFHW), can someone who knows his meta better help me interpret them?  I'm not sure what to make of this effort.

Does scum!Jimmmmm dig in and try to find another valid wagon when he comes under fire?  Is this town!Jimmmmm honestly trying to seek out the truth?  Or is this is standard defense/response for him when he's up against a wall, regardless of alignment, making it NAI?

Unvote for now.
I think the problem with answering this is that Jimmmmm has not been playing a lot recently, and when he did oftentimes he just ended up lurking and eventually getting exiled/replaced for that.

I looked at the last 2 of his scum games: RMM56 and RMM54. Jimmmm was Serial Killer in RMM56, so that's maybe not the best representation. In that game, there is definitely a flurry of activity from Jimmmmm after he gets his first wagon (read from here).

In RMM54, he similarly reacts with wallposting to pressure, see e.g. this post coming after a push, which is significantly longer than anything he posted before in that game. It's followed by more rereads.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 10:42:56 am »
Vote: MiX

the time has come.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 01:59:25 am »
MiX is scum but it's not the exile we want right now.
[...]
Nothing here sheds any light to me on [...] faust's read on MiX.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 01:16:47 am »
I am not engaging with this further.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 01:05:13 am »
I did lean into the argument a bit
This to me really illustrates how disingenuous the post i quoted for my peak negative feelings really was.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 01:03:02 am »
If it was pro-Town then everyone should do it
This is a fallacy.

I think this kind of acti-lurking is significantly worse than lurking, and if we "exile all lurkers" as an attempt to disincentivise lurking, then we should do something similar for this.
Please explain how what I do is worse than lurking.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 16, 2021, 01:01:25 am »
If angry is too strong a word, then when did your negative feelings peak?
Peak negative feelings was definitely here:
What definitely does not serve town is debating which playstyles are and aren't helpful to town instead of scumhunting.

For sure. And look at the rabbit-hole you're leading us down.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Signups)
« on: September 15, 2021, 03:55:27 pm »
White paused for a moment to look out the window and noticed that somehow their course had drifted straight into an asteroid field! They jumped on the weapons and started blasting the asteroids out of the sky, while Cyan jumped in the pilot's seat and charted a new course. At the back of the ship, Lime Green wondered where everyone was, so they sat down and watched the security cameras for a bit.

Vote Count 1.3

iguanaiguana (1): 2.71828.....
EFHW (4): WestCoastDidds, iguanaiguana, jotheonah, Jimmmmm
Jimmmmm (3): faust, MiX, mathdude
faust (1): LaLight

Not Voting (3): Swowl, EFHW, gkrieg13

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to exile. Day 1 ends September 18, 2021, 03:00:00 pm

Third vote is scum

Vote: math

Conveniently ignores joth...
Are you saying this because joth is now also voting for Jimmmmm or because joth was the third vote on the EFHW wagon?

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