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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« on: March 26, 2019, 04:16:12 pm »
I'm not really asking you a question on that at this point (and the final thing you responded to in that big post was directed at Ash, despite having your name in it.)

My point is that you're repeating thoughts other people have. Earlier you outright said that you thought scum must be protecting you and you should look for that. That doesn't really sound like the tune you're singing now (and I agree that it doesn't make much sense) and I think that is worthy of comment.

And probably a vote, but I'm not sure what the current VC is and I want to try to write up some thoughts on Ash later and see how people respond to those.

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Why were you townreading e on D1?

I metaread him and he felt like he was doing normal town!e things. Minor, but...better than what I had on others for townieness.

So how come when you reread people's reasons for voting Robz on D1, you didn't ever look at the leadup to my sheeping e if this was some big townread of yours? You didn't really note that I must have developed a townread on e in there, I was curious about this back on D2 and it's pretty clear you didn't consider it. Especially as I thought there was a good reason to townread e based on his reactions to his wagon and the Robz and LL wagons. And then even after we talked about it, I seem to recall you leaving that out and making a big deal of me not explaining myself. Surely if you were also townreading e you'd have considered sheeping him too and incorporated that into consideration of why I voted back then.

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Because we weren't close to their scumteam? The wagons D3 sorta exemplify that, 3 townies that we were sure were scum. Pretty much everyone who has been getting suspicion is either me or dead, so they have no reason to lynch me yet. Why protect me? I don't know, sounds like a fun gambit, let MiX live more and dig his own grave, then we'll push his lynch when it's time. I would do it. If this actually happened then it was decided N2. It's hard to believe, I suppose...but do you see any other explanation? I get why raerae's thinking the way she's thinking, it's what I would think in her position too, but I know otherwise, so...yeah.
Why is this a reason for scum to protect you and for this to be something you're interested in looking for as a means of scumhunting?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« on: March 26, 2019, 03:59:22 pm »
Oh, regarding my targets, they're in the order I listed them
Ash N1 because I find him hard to read and despite how people talk about him, I can't remember the last time he got NKed early. WCD based on my logic toward the end of D2, was debating WCD, shraeye, and raerae I settled on WCD as the most likely scum of the 3 at that point. At this point I'm townreading raerae by the way. Faust on N3 because it became apparent scum weren't actually going to kill him and I had that hope I'd get a guilty and could just not have to reread him and lynch him today, especially because I thought I'd always have doubts about him all game and scum were never going to kill him. Really fortuitous targeting from EFHW there on ICing him.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« on: March 26, 2019, 03:33:02 pm »
@WCD: Is it anti-town to scumread you in general or is it something about how MiX did it?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« on: March 26, 2019, 03:27:03 pm »
Oh, MiX I guess, he voted me so soon afterwards I didn't parse that. Still, do you really think that's a thought other people were going to latch onto?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« on: March 26, 2019, 03:25:29 pm »
Please donít give cops passes (like MiX did in his immediate reaction to efoo).

Who do you think was in danger of giving me a pass based on my claim?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« on: March 26, 2019, 03:21:19 pm »
Approach it the other way around: if I'm town, why am I alive? And the answer will come out easily: because it's SO easy to push my mislynch that why bother? Scum has every intentions to let me slide across the days untill one of their own is in trouble, because when that happens they can simply say "MiX is scum lol" and bam free mislynch. I also seem to have the worst reads so I'm a good person to carry to LyLo, but I doubt I'm living that far.

So why do you think scum is protecting you then?

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Everyone was townreading shraeye, it was the hot stuff! And yes, I did answer that, I was townreading shraeye and townreading E who was townreading shraeye, I didn't think he would ever be lynched that day. And I was right, he recieved basically no attention that day (or any day, really).
Why were you townreading e on D1?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« on: March 25, 2019, 08:59:38 pm »
Anyway, MiX was looking like the most likely lynch at the time. EFHW just got the tiniest amount of pressure. It's survivalistic.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« on: March 25, 2019, 08:58:54 pm »
Depends on the target. If we were actually about to go through with a faust lynch, yeah that's maybe worth the claim when you also consider the no-SK-in-Ferengi angle. To protect Space, I wouldn't have, but I see the argument for it.

An additional town result is actually worth slightly more than a current town result, and the chance for it to be a guilty is way better than that. I'd have let Space die with just pushing the townread without the claim.

So yeah, no, let the townreads die and complain about how bad town is after the fact is the right play.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« on: March 25, 2019, 08:54:39 pm »
If she'd been the lynch, she'd have had to claim anyway, but that wasn't looking that likely when she claimed.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« on: March 25, 2019, 08:53:36 pm »
I absolutely think EFHW's claim was a mistake.

I'm glad you like my Ash case btw.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« on: March 25, 2019, 08:51:29 pm »
Already said, protecting Worf was important and every additional claim was making that worse.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« on: March 25, 2019, 08:48:42 pm »
Under what circumstances is faust scum?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« on: March 25, 2019, 08:26:33 pm »
Vote: Ash

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« on: March 25, 2019, 07:42:38 pm »
I'd actually like you to answer that please, Space.

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And yeah, Acquire is underrated.

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We also need DebatePro to formally confirm that he's interested, unless I missed it somewhere.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« on: March 25, 2019, 07:18:08 pm »
MiX: Why aren't raerae and I remarkable?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« on: March 25, 2019, 07:15:30 pm »
Unvote

Vobe: Glooble for stealing my color

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« on: March 25, 2019, 07:13:01 pm »
If Garak has a shot left (which we don't know for sure) he should obviously protect EFHW. Most of the utility of me not claiming was to protect Worf.

Making this a WIFOM thing is super scummy, if EFHW survives two nights she's obviously SK.

(Now that's how you WIFOM...)

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« on: March 25, 2019, 07:07:27 pm »
@WCD: let me rephrase: why do Space's lists make them more likely to be town in your opinion?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« on: March 25, 2019, 07:05:26 pm »
Anyway, no point sitting on this I guess:

I'm Chief O'Brien, I like kayaking, mystery novels and long walks on the beach with the love of my life Bashir Keiko.
Ash, Didds, and faust aren't Mirror Universe, but that's probably useless.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« on: March 25, 2019, 06:58:39 pm »
You know, I WILL vote here, I just think that if EFHW's Maquis then Space's Maquis. But EFHW might not be Maquis...I would rather lynch Space today, however. What's your stance on Space, again?
Even if it's not, I've decided to go ahead. I'm Worf, and faust and Space are NOT Maquis. Neither was Glooble, but you already know that.

WHAT?

What.

whispers what.

Unvote

Er.........

Vote: MiX

No, right, the partner, not me...

Vote: Didds

That's an awfully weird shakeup over the course of 3 minutes.

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