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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXV: Mean Girls (First Day of School! First Day of School!)

« on: May 13, 2013, 09:17:19 pm »

So what does everyone think about Lio's idea to no-lynch Day1? 

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What do you all think?

NO

Lol we really do aaaalways have this discussion.

Haha, I misread a post and thought that Lio suggested that we should "Absolutely No-Lynch", not "Absolutely not No-Lynch" and was wondering why no one had commented on it.  And then immediately realized that the not was there, which looking back now, makes way more sense.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXV: Mean Girls (First Day of School! First Day of School!)

« on: May 13, 2013, 08:49:00 pm »

Errr there was a double negative in that post.  Never mind what I just said.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXV: Mean Girls (First Day of School! First Day of School!)

« on: May 13, 2013, 08:48:18 pm »

So what does everyone think about Lio's idea to no-lynch Day1?  If we can't do any better than a guess, I suppose I wouldn't be opposed to it.  My only worry is that if we decide to no-lynch too early, it might lead to a loss in meaningful discussion that would be harmful because it would lessen the chance that scum could slip up.  I'm just not sure of it, I suppose.

What do you all think?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXV: Mean Girls (First Day of School! First Day of School!)

« on: May 13, 2013, 08:37:50 pm »

Digging way back in the mafia game index:

That's sort of what I was shooting for with my Mean Girls game but I really wanted a three person scum team and that math doesn't work out so well.

I wanted to have an 11 player game but also wanted one three person scum team (bet you can't guess who that'll be flavor-wise!) so shraeye advised me that 12 players would be better with that many scum.  As far as mafia picking their team, I'll send a PM to all players, 10 of them will be the same but the 11th will identify the first scum.  Everybody will be instructed to confirm receipt but the scum will also have to identify their partner.  Once all PMs are received, the 2nd round will go out much the same as the first, then one more round of PMs will go out containing final instructions.

Most of the town players will be VT, mafia will all be goons, but that's all I'm saying.

I knew I remembered something! valuable info this is!! granted this is from a while ago so it may have changed.

Nice!  So reading this, it's A pick B, B pick C?  It's not 100% clear to me.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXV: Mean Girls (First Day of School! First Day of School!)

« on: May 13, 2013, 08:34:19 pm »

@ ash: I added in a later post mcmc and lio to my list if you care to add them. If I had to pick between lio and mcmc I think I would pick lio.

And I think everyone needs to participate in this. Failure to participate will be seen as highly scummy behavior. And by participate I mean at least acknowledge it. Even an "I have no idea" post like nkirbit suffices

I don't appreciate being told what to do and I'm not sūre is at all worthwhile activity for anyone other than the long time players

I disagree.  It's meaningless now to me, for sure, but when players start to get lynched and killed, this could be useful information to look back on.  On the otherhand, it could be worthless, but it's so easy to do, so why not?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXV: Mean Girls (First Day of School! First Day of School!)

« on: May 13, 2013, 08:16:24 pm »

yeah, if one of MGP, ahoppy, or nkirbit is the randomly chosen scum then this is all worthless.

I disagree.

I disagree as well.  First of all, we aren't exactly sure the process the selection went through.  Was it A pick B and C, or A pick B, then A+B pick C?  If it's the second, the list still matters if MGP, Ahoppy, or I were chosen.  Even if it wasn't, it's still good info to have, and it's something constructive to discuss, which is plenty for D1.

I'm all for discussing this of course! If the first player chosen has a say in who the third player is then this is certainly helpful (unless ANOTHER person who doesn't know anybody is chosen). But I agree, everyone should comment on this I think.

Once we have lynched a plastic we won't be able to analyze who they would have chosen, because we probably won't know if they became scum in the first, second, or third PM. (that's assuming one player became scum each round of PMs, which might not be true).

I really doubt there is a traitor. 4/12 players being anti-town is really tough.

yes traitor I doubt, survivor/win with any I can see

What is survivor/win?  Someone who is chosen to be night-killed becomes mafia?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXV: Mean Girls (First Day of School! First Day of School!)

« on: May 13, 2013, 08:09:13 pm »

yeah, if one of MGP, ahoppy, or nkirbit is the randomly chosen scum then this is all worthless.

I disagree.

I disagree as well.  First of all, we aren't exactly sure the process the selection went through.  Was it A pick B and C, or A pick B, then A+B pick C?  If it's the second, the list still matters if MGP, Ahoppy, or I were chosen.  Even if it wasn't, it's still good info to have, and it's something constructive to discuss, which is plenty for D1.

For a newbie, this person is making a lot of sense.

Side question: are you TA's brother?

Yes, I am.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXV: Mean Girls (First Day of School! First Day of School!)

« on: May 13, 2013, 07:56:05 pm »

yeah, if one of MGP, ahoppy, or nkirbit is the randomly chosen scum then this is all worthless.

I disagree.

I disagree as well.  First of all, we aren't exactly sure the process the selection went through.  Was it A pick B and C, or A pick B, then A+B pick C?  If it's the second, the list still matters if MGP, Ahoppy, or I were chosen.  Even if it wasn't, it's still good info to have, and it's something constructive to discuss, which is plenty for D1.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXV: Mean Girls (First Day of School! First Day of School!)

« on: May 13, 2013, 06:59:35 pm »

In fact, even if I knew the other people I was playing with, I still would choose at random, I think.  It's possible that I would eliminate a few players who I know I don't want to be scum with, but there's certainly value in having a random group (It's certainly harder to guess based on discussions such as this).

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXV: Mean Girls (First Day of School! First Day of School!)

« on: May 13, 2013, 06:56:08 pm »

Okay, let's see what people have responded to my question:

yuma: ashersky
ashersky: Eevee, mail-mi/lio
mail-mi: ?
Eevee: mcmc, mgp
liopoil: ?
Robz888: ?
nkirbit: ?
AHoppy: ?
modestguineapig: ?
mcmcsalot: ?
spiritbears: ?
sudgy: Robz888 (joke?)


So, not a lot of responses so far.

Also, I'll note that mcmc has yet to post in this game.  I know he's got a new busy schedule, so hopefully he shows up soon.

As I stated earlier, I would have chosen entirely at random, never having played with anyone here before.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXV: Mean Girls (First Day of School! First Day of School!)

« on: May 13, 2013, 05:03:55 pm »

I should note that "play dumb" is a valid tactic that even vets have used. Yuma tried it in Mafia XIX. I called him out for it repeatedly.

Yeah, I know.  There's just been a bunch of people agreeing with Yuma's initial point, and I wanted to throw out how I felt about it.. good to have it out there, at least.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXV: Mean Girls (First Day of School! First Day of School!)

« on: May 13, 2013, 03:50:14 pm »

If anything, Robz feels more towny to me than scummy because of his confusion.  He's either:

a:  a townie who simply didn't realize why we were sending out 3 PMs.  This is very plausible, I myself was confused at first by this until I reread the rules after I got the 2nd PM and was wondering why I got it.

b:  a mafia who knew exactly why we were sending out multiple PMs (He either chose other mafia or was himself chosen), then chose to falsely claim that he didn't know that mafia were choosing each other.  This would have been a deliberate choice, but it doesn't seem to me that it would have any real benefit, especially for the risk he would have taken (since it was after the post where he points out reading the rules about not knowing roles.. if posting this was a conscious decision, which it would have been if it was a lie, I don't think he would have missed this).

The first just seems way more likely to me.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXV: Mean Girls (First Day of School! First Day of School!)

« on: May 13, 2013, 10:35:36 am »

My plan would have been to roll a dice or some other RNG, since I don't really know who anyone is.

I would also guess that there are three scum, with the second chosen by the first, and the third chosen by the first two.. if there were only two or the first person chose both of them, why would there need to be three rounds of PMs instead of two?  To throw us off?

As for who is likely to be chosen, I obviously have no input as I don't know anyone, but I think it's a great thing for us to discuss, as it's really the only thing we have to discuss at the moment.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXV: Mean Girls (First Day of School! First Day of School!)

« on: May 12, 2013, 11:40:03 pm »

If Kanto were a highschool, and Pokemon students, this: would definitely be a Plastic.

Vote: Eevee

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXV: Mean Girls (First Day of School! First Day of School!)

« on: May 12, 2013, 11:28:16 pm »

First day of high school!  Man, I can't wait to make new friends!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXV: Mean Girls

« on: May 06, 2013, 06:58:51 pm »

Yep!  He's done a game or two so far - I think - and enjoyed them.

His name's Twistedarcher.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXV: Mean Girls

« on: May 06, 2013, 06:46:38 pm »

My brother just recommended this forum.. I've played in person, but never online before.  Looking forward to it!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXV: Mean Girls

« on: May 06, 2013, 06:29:28 pm »

/in