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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day5)

« on: February 02, 2016, 02:43:09 am »

And finally to today.  Well, RR comes out of the gates defensive, trying to convince me he's town.  But town!RR should really be considering whether it's me or Egor that is scum.  He says this:

So I'm pretty sure WW is town. By process of elimination, that makes Egor. And there's either a 1/10 chance or a 1/21 chance of Egor being town.

Bur no rushed decisions, anyone!
PPE

but doesn't actually do any work, like rereading.  I mean, the game rests on this decision, you have to do some work here. 

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day5)

« on: February 02, 2016, 02:32:59 am »

Rule clarification please.

The clarification sought here is too vague. Please ask a more precise question to be answered.

Can a town aligned roleblocker roleblock another town aligned roleblocker?

Man, why town-aligned?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)

« on: February 02, 2016, 02:23:39 am »

Interesting. Teproc, had you used your power N2?

This is clever and fast thinking if Egor is scum.  Only 7 minutes after Teproc posted.  I guess Egor could have had his fake claim actions all lined up, borrowing XP's real actions in case of Tracking/Watching/whatever.  But, really, this makes me believe Egor.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)

« on: February 02, 2016, 02:18:27 am »

So, I believe WW because if he is scum he made situation so much worse. Suppose he is not retracting his clai, we are evntually counterclaimed, and there are 1 scum among 3 claimed PRs and 1 among 4 claimed VTs. Now worse case scenario for town other PR just claim. We'd have 2 scum among 5 claimed VTs and 2 IC. Much better for town

I still want feedback on this

This feels more genuine from Egor, like he's actually considering whether or not I'm scum.  On the other hand, scum!Egor knows I'm telling the truth now, so this could just be trying to justify that.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)

« on: February 02, 2016, 02:14:42 am »

What's your scum narrative for WW?

Lying is scummy in my book.

Did you reread me? Find anything fun?

But what would have been scum!WW's motivation? Lying as town is ill advised,  but it happens with alarming frequency.

If you 'lie as town' you're not a part of the town anymore in my opinion. That's not the way we do things if we want to win.

That is not an answer. What I'm getting at is I think these are manufactured  reads. I'll check out the other games, though.

I'm saying people who lie as town are scummy. There are certain things scum does, lying is one of them.

I believe in policy lynches. Liars are people who should get policy lynched.

Possible slip?  Seems to be saying I'm town here. 

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)

« on: February 02, 2016, 02:13:59 am »

Unvote
Awaclus is scummy now. Not to the point where I'd start a wagon on him, but anti-town play is...you know, anti town. Why do we think SS is scum here? Cause he's quiet?

Now Egor has died down and Awaclus is at L-2.  Odd statement here about starting a wagon, since there is a wagon.  Continues to call Awaclus scummy while supporting alternate lynches (like me).  Doesn't actually vote for Awaclus.  This is more indicative of partner than Egor's Day 4. 

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)

« on: February 01, 2016, 09:44:22 pm »

Well, ok. I am remaining PR (if WW tells truth). I can claim which if you want, but I am not sure it is needed unless there is counterclaim

This is sounds like a town claim.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)

« on: February 01, 2016, 09:42:21 pm »

Well, Awaclus reread wasn't that hard. Nothing really stand out from usual Awa play, at least from more modern Awaclus that we've seen last couple of games. He is good at being unreadable though, so all we have is his voting record, and that is no good - he voted ash D2 and unvoted from XP D3 (though I do not asign much weight to later). Vote: Awaclus for now

And to follow.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)

« on: February 01, 2016, 09:41:28 pm »

I am leaning on Awaclus, but need to have reread to make a case. Silver also not top town read for me

Teproc and EFHW are though. On the other hand EFHW warrant review as well - she's a universal town read, which sometimes backfires

Okay, partner just got lynched, Egor has two votes on him already.. does he try to bus here?  This is before Egor v. Awaclus was a certainty.  Seems like a bad scum play.  So town points for that.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day3)

« on: February 01, 2016, 09:35:26 pm »

RR - Had the whole posting Umbrage's guide and seeming to use that.

 EgorK - I don't remember much here.  5 posts.  One RVS, 2 votes XP, and 2 about mass claiming.

 Awaclus - Says the vig shouldn't shoot, votes RR D1, votes ash D2, votes and unvotes xp D3.  Gives the setup analysis post indicating no bus driver. 

 Teproc - Seems to be the other scum based on his reaction to XP.  He says thinking of a no-lynch might be good.  Says WW shouldn't shoot, tries to organize who should use shots.  Has tons of theory posts, with only a small real post.  Says he tentatively feels good about the Hydrad lynch.  Does heavy defending of XP D2.  Says ash is full of baloney.  The more I read, the more scummy he gets.  Then he doesn't want us to let scum know what we are thinking D3.  I think we should definitely discuss things.  Then he wants people to breadcrumb/claim.  This is going downhill super fast.

 EFHW - She has a lot of theory posts about the semi-mass claim.  Then makes the case on me and votes for me.  There wasn't much to analyze to judge my alignment at that point.  I'm still not sure why she focused on me, when there were more lurkers in the game. 

 Xerxes - scum

 ss - Doesn't really seem to be paying attention, which is weird because there was plenty of setup talk to be involved in.  He was tentatively agains the semimass claim.  Then votes WW after he knew about the claim, Then votes ash D2 as a policy vote.  Then he talks about having a short day.

 gkrieg - IC

 WW - vig - makes sense, his claim hasn't been countered, and no other PRs have come up. 

  Looking at all all these people, I would say XP is conf!scum, Teproc is one of his partners and I would say I don't think it is EFHW, EgorK, or WW for the last one which leaves ss, RR, and Awaclus for the last scum.

Gkrieg's post before he gets NK'd.  Well, if it is Awaclus/RR, this would be a good reason for him to die as he had the remaining two scum in a set of three.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day2)

« on: February 01, 2016, 09:31:55 pm »

Unvote
PPE

This is a somewhat townie reaction to Ash hammering himself, though.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day2)

« on: February 01, 2016, 09:31:16 pm »

Okay, Teproc, I guess life goes on. Now I'm going to Vote: Ashersky. He's been a very, very scummy 'PR.'
PPE

This is scummy.  Before it came two over explained posts about why he should vote Ash.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day6)

« on: February 01, 2016, 09:26:37 pm »

Back and forth between RR and XP after that could easily be partners.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day2)

« on: February 01, 2016, 09:25:39 pm »

Okay, I know I said I wouldn't talk because I just need to crawl in a corner and die, but this is honestly stupid.

Ash seems really scummy (not that I know, cause my reads are Grade-A trash) especially with the pick A or B crap. You're not confirmed town. You'd like to think you are, but you're not. You've been a very scummy 'cop,' and Teproc makes good points. But I'm not voting until we hear from Xerxes.
PPE

Response to Ash's claim.  Could be scummy or could be RR.   Egor responds with a vote and nothing else.  Both could go either way.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day2)

« on: February 01, 2016, 09:24:10 pm »

Hmm. vote: Ashersky

Ash is always confusing - I'm not sure why he's doing this, but I think it works out well for us overall. I read the setup, and the chance of a bus driver targeting me is pretty low, so tomorrow can be an auto-lynch even if I'm lynched today.

I'm not sure whether to claim, but I'm leaning toward yes. Thoughts about that?

Of note: Xerxes plants the idea of Bus Driver early.  Mitigates the effect of people talking about it later, though that was about equal between RR and Egor.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 1)

« on: February 01, 2016, 06:09:29 pm »

I'll have an avacado.

What is that? Some sort of code?

Vote: WW

ADK is a fruit vendor, and WW wants some?  That doesn't seem like code to me.

I can't counterclaim

PPE

But what is an avacado?

Okay maybe I can't spell.  But still.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 1)

« on: February 01, 2016, 06:09:09 pm »

ADK is certainly not going to fake claim without checking that he can't be counterclaimed.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 1)

« on: February 01, 2016, 06:08:27 pm »

I'll have an avacado.

What is that? Some sort of code?

Vote: WW

It's nutritious and delicious.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avocado

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 1)

« on: February 01, 2016, 06:03:20 pm »

Shouldn't someone with an IC-ish role wait until later to claim? ICs are more useful later in the game.

I'll go ahead and claim IC now.

Funny you should say that, I'm going to go ahead and claim Fruit Vendor.

I'll have an avacado.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 1)

« on: February 01, 2016, 05:34:21 pm »

Hello.

I don't see why it's much better to keep your thoughts in your QT than here. Unless you're some PR and have stuff you don't want to share with the rest of the town. Reads and cases are what we have to go on. This coming from someone who have a record of not writing that much in my QTs.

I already have 15 or so posts in my QT. There is really no reason to spam the thread with them.

Obvscum!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 1)

« on: February 01, 2016, 05:13:52 pm »

Hello.

I don't see why it's much better to keep your thoughts in your QT than here. Unless you're some PR and have stuff you don't want to share with the rest of the town. Reads and cases are what we have to go on. This coming from someone who have a record of not writing that much in my QTs.

Not all thoughts; but sometimes it can be helpful to withhold stuff.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 1)

« on: February 01, 2016, 05:13:04 pm »

Shouldn't someone with an IC-ish role wait until later to claim? ICs are more useful later in the game.

I'll go ahead and claim IC now. 

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 1)

« on: February 01, 2016, 04:55:18 pm »

I'm never going to post anything substantial in my QT, and I don't think that doing so or not is an alignment tell for any player.

I don't agree.  It's just like posting in here, but not visible until possibly some later time.  I think it's useful.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day6)

« on: February 01, 2016, 03:22:54 pm »

I started to reread yesterday.  I'll finish up and make a decision (late) tonight.  Probably won't have time to make detailed thought posts as I read.  Not that those matter really at this point.

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General Discussion / Re: Maths thread.

« on: February 01, 2016, 01:01:21 pm »

And if you normally type in TeX/LaTeX (like I do), it's second nature.  Even when writing emails at work, I will use LaTeX notation to talk about equations or mathematical expressions.