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Game Reports / Re: Threw the game because of misplay

« on: May 04, 2014, 11:46:49 am »

I'm not a top tier player, but I think I would pick up two Traders early, maybe three and after that on 4$ I'd aggressively go for Feoda, Silver on 3$. I think you want to trash one or two Feoda (probably three when uncontested) with your Traders because that gains you 7 Silvers, which should be huge.

A peddler to trash is probably nice, but I don't think you want three Native Villages and the Hunting Party.

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Help! / Re: Butcher+Fortress or Jack?

« on: May 03, 2014, 06:00:49 am »

I feel like Horse Traders Fools Gold should be able to compete as the Fools Golds will probably not be contested.

I'd probably go for that. After the FGs are gone, I guess I'd add a butcher or an Ironmongers if I don't hit 8$.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014

« on: May 01, 2014, 11:25:28 am »

Might not be a big deal for many of you, but yesterday I played and won against a 6K+ rated opponent for the first time.
Especially after having a bad dominion evening the day before (losing four out of five games) that totally made my day.
I'm also a bit proud that I didn't just mindlessly mirror his play but went for my own plan.
He played an Apothecary-Warehouse deck with Golem, Spy and Haggler as support while I went for a simpler BM with Counterfeit and a Haggler. I still like my plan better and was just to fast for him to catch up.

So... it seems I'll post the log when gokosalvager is back up.
/E: Here it is:  http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140430/log.516cd492e4b082c74d7a247a.1398882801365.txt ... and yea I guess 6 provinces is 15 turns is fast...

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Dominion Videos and Streams / Re: AdamH's channels

« on: May 01, 2014, 08:58:26 am »

Yet, the Cultist game doesn't seem to work correctly on Youtube. At some point, it just stops and I found no way of making it work again.

Huh, worked for me ~3 hours ago...
Something happened to your opponents' voices, though. I think they were recorded twice somehow. Sounds a little creepy

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Dominion Articles / Re: Counterfeit

« on: May 01, 2014, 07:55:23 am »

Oh, pinging old threads fun!  (sorry mods)
I think this should go to the wiki as the wiki currently says there wouldn't be an article about Counterfeit?

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Goko Dominion Online / Re: Games not (playing)

« on: April 30, 2014, 06:27:48 pm »

I have the same problem when using Chrome. In Firefox, with the old Greasemonkey script, it's working.
I've recognized, that people can actually join your match, you just won't notice as the seat appears to be empty for you (checked it logging in as a guest with a second browser)

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Dominion League / Re: Signups Season 1

« on: April 30, 2014, 03:27:02 pm »

Assemble Meme
UTC+2 (CEST)

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Greatest Misclicks of 2014

« on: April 29, 2014, 04:56:13 am »

Why when you overpay one potion, the button "end overpay" suddenly grow and go at the place where was the "potion" button ?
So :

Emeric - plays 5 Copper, 1 Potion
Emeric - buys Stonemason
Emeric - overpays for Stonemason with 1 potion
Emeric - gains Stonemason
Emeric - places Alchemist on top of deck
Emeric - draws Alchemist, Alchemist, Estate, Forager, Copper

That's, in a more general way, one of the biggest problems of the Goko interface.
All buttons should have strict positions. Like, the "End turn" button could always be at the top left of the play area, the "End actions" button could always be on the lower left of the play area. Buttons regarding action cards could be on the right of the play area but, for each action card, each should have its strict positionings as well. If one option is not possible, there should be an empty spot. (Like on the top right could be "Stop overpaying", on the center right could be "Overpay by one more coin" on the lower right could be "Overpay by one more potion". If you don't have any coins, it's like "stop overpaying - empty spot - overpay potion"; if you don't have any potion it's like "stop overpaying - overpay coin - empty spot").
Instead, at the moment, the buttons just slip upwards if certain options are not possible. And while you keep thinking and focus on what you want to do, you don't read the button text.

I've just seen a video of AdamH these days, where he played a Plaza without having a treasure card to discard in his hand. Normally, when you don't want to discard a treasure, on the upper right, there's the "Don't discard treasure" button. But in that case, as Goko scanned the cards in hand figuring there's nothing to discard, there was the "End actions" button instead.

Therefore the current button positioning is not very resilient to user misclicks.

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Goko Dominion Online / Re: Attention-whoring thread.... I did it!!

« on: April 28, 2014, 04:47:50 am »

I'm really happy after playing by myself and not only watching, I'm at 5200+ and have reached the top 300 on Goko. I hope I can stay above 5200, my next target is to reach the top 200 on Goko and level 25 on Isotropish.

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Help! / Re: Analyze the newbie

« on: April 26, 2014, 05:22:09 am »

I played an interesting board yesterday and still don't know how to really play it right:

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Haven, Watchtower, Fortress, Butcher, Contraband, Count, Cultist, Horn of Plenty, Wharf, Border Village
Here's my log: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140425/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1398451483393.txt

It was a Colony/Estates game yesterday. I replayed this with against bots twice.
So, it's of course a big, big engine board. You want lots of Wharves, Horns, and Border Villages if you hit 6 (or 6+5, 6+6...). With so many hot engine components and Cultist, the game will probably end on piles.
You probably want early Watchtowers to defend against your opponent's Cultists and to topdeck these nice components, Border Village + Wharf on top will guarantee to kick off next turn.

My questions are:
Do you want Cultists? Watchtower is really good defense and you could pick up more Wharves instead.
Do you want a Count? Trashing is nice, but if you have enough Wharves you may just power through your deck and draw those Coppers and Estates. You could pick up another Wharf instead.
Do you want a Butcher? Again, trashing is nice. You may also trash single Ruins which slipped through your Watchtower defense, and there's also Fortress for some trashing tricks, although that might be to slow here, and again, on 5$ you probably rather want a Wharf or a Horn.

Yesterday, I had 5/2 and opened Cultist/Haven. I picked up a second Cultist, then a Count, went for Wharves afterwards and then Horns, but I feel, I played this far from optimum.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition: $5 cards (Part 5/6)

« on: April 23, 2014, 10:49:15 am »

1.) Rebuild
2.) Cultist
3.) Mountebank
4.) Wharf
5.) Witch

Do you really think Rebuild is No. 1? I can't believe that Cultist can be before the cursers, either.
I'd guess:
1) Mountebank
2) Witch
3) Rebuild
4) Wharf
5) Cultist

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Goko Dominion Online / Re: Weird "Adventure" Mode

« on: April 23, 2014, 10:42:03 am »

Are they ever going to 'complete' the adventures? There is still a big empty spot on the map which I assume was for Guilds adventures.

I made a list of 20 sets-of-10. I imagine they will add it when they fix the other adventures. I was promised "soon" but haven't asked how that's coming.

I'm curious: Are these sets more mixed than the current ones? I think it's kind of boring to always play with half base / half extension sets. For me, that's even worse than the enforcement to use zaps on later stages.
After all, I'd rather play more human opponents instead of bots. It's a bit sad that I have to if I want all the promos (which I really do). I'd pay like... 20$ for them, I guess.

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Help! / Re: Analyze the newbie

« on: April 21, 2014, 11:02:14 am »

So, my opponent makes it pretty easy for me to win here. Going for this engine seems to be a bad idea, he even ignores Possession which would have been my only point to go for it. My question is: In which order do you want to go for Masterpiece / Feodum when uncontested? I've gone for a few Masterpieces early on when I hit $6+ for the economy, tried to get lots of Feoda so he couldn't deny me to get them (well, he could have just denied me Masterpieces instead, I guess), then I could outrace Masterpieces with 3/4$ overpay. After that i would have tried to go for the last four silvers, but instead I drew 8$ two times, so I just went for the last provinces.

http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140421/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1398090989812.txt

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Vagrant, Apothecary, Masterpiece, Oasis, Sage, Feodum, Silk Road, Highway, Mystic, Possession

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Dominion Articles / Re: Top 10 opening blunders

« on: April 20, 2014, 08:50:34 am »

I probably did not accentuate enough that it only refers to mistakes one can avoid before the game starts; that's why I called it "opening" blunders.

Well, a bit, maybe. I guess your no. 4 and 5 can happen every moment during a game.

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Dominion Articles / Re: Top 10 opening blunders

« on: April 20, 2014, 06:01:22 am »

I'm missing my favorites:

Curses and Ruins are two piles...

and if both of them are gone, the game ends soon, even if you can't see one of them at the first page.
In this game I try to clean my deck while my opponent scrambles for points. He then wins by piling Crossroads. http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140415/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1397598832700.txt.


First I play my Chapel and then I play... oh what happened now?

Classic misclick because of forgetting "done". Annoying when playing with hamlet and discarting your powerful $5 for a buy, even worse when you trash it with your Chapel... like I did on turn 5 here http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140404/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1396648601406.txt


I can't count

I really struggle when it comes to deck tracking. I can often count points (when there is no Alt-VP), but not always, as it appears.
In this game, in my last turn I have $12 and two buys, but I only buy Province and no kicker Estate. My opponent buys the last Province on his turn and the game ends in a draw http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140416/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1397671370143.txt

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Help! / Re: Analyze the newbie

« on: April 16, 2014, 06:46:00 pm »

Wow, flies, that's pretty amazing, so you really worked through that kingom

Swindler and Jester both attack whatever's on top of your deck while rabble puts victory cards there.  These effects anti-synergize.  I mean, JEster after rabble will curse, but the power of rabble is the two-card hand, and these attacks destroy that effect.  Additionally, both of those attacks will deplete piles, especially if they connect with King's Court, which means your time to build is shorter than it might appear at first.

Yea, I've noticed that, too. Some of my "bad plays" involved the three attacks. One turn I put a curse on top of the deck instead of a green card and play Jester right after that, so you really have to focus on the order of actions and the order of your opponent's top cards.

You want your late turns to do something like KC-KC-rabble -> draw deck -> KC Grand Market, buy stuff.  To get there, you start with double swindler to hurt your opponent, then go hard for MV and Rabble.  Early KC is more important than GM. 

Yea, that's mostly corresponding with my conclusion, I feel that's got to be right.

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Introductions / Re: Hi there

« on: April 16, 2014, 03:30:31 pm »

I guess that might be the reason why Arsenal wants to buy all the Germans . Although it doesn't always work out as expected... 

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Help! / Re: Where do I find game logs?

« on: April 16, 2014, 06:02:13 am »

You can find logs here: http://gokosalvager.com/

On the log search page, there's also a link to the "Kingdom Visualizer" in the top area of the page that builds the fitting BB code for you to simply copy-paste it into a thread (with nice pictures etc). You simply need a game log for it.
If you don't find it, here's the direct link: http://gokosalvager.com/kingdomvisualize

If you want to get other expansions, you have to pay for them. I think you actually buy some tokens or other kind of virtual money to get them, but you need tokens that you don't earn while you're playing adventures or other stuff.

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Help! / Re: Analyze the newbie

« on: April 15, 2014, 03:36:47 pm »

Thanks a lot for the comments so far!

In the second game you need to be able to buy some duchies if your opponent takes some of the silk roads. I think you're ok there but it's hard to tell whether you were aware of that or whether it just fell into place with the draws.

Actually, during the game I hadn't thought about things that might got wrong. But I knew my Silk Roads would be worth 4VP and I could easlily count his Province and Duchy points.

Add Kings Court, Rabble, Mining Village to your own deck, and use Swindle/Jester to disrupt your opponents.

Sounds good, at least that was my plan .

I would open double swindler as engine pieces are expensive and as attack.

I don't like your opening village, that's only a good plan if the components you want are really cheap ($3 with some good $2 cards).
Here they cost $5, $4 and $7, so I'd open Swindler/Silver.
I also disagree with your trashing of villages so early.

I would probably open either Swindler/Swindler or Swindler/Silver here, depending on the day of the week. [...]

It will probably take a lot of time to get to GM, but I think it's worth it in the end. You can trash MVs to get to GM, because KC-GM will also give you actions.

I shivered when I read the log seeing I've opened Swindler/Mining Village. I remember, my plan was to use it as one shot GM to get a real one, wich is also the reason for trashing it so early. But thats probably a mistake, I guess it's better to go Swindler/Silver or double Swindler, get Rabbles and King's Courts first and GMs later. Probably, it's pretty bad luck that my first MV gets swindled into a Treasure Map, too...

Stay away from buying gold, platinum, treasure maps, green cards... well you already did that.

Yeah, all that stuff was because of his Swindler and my Jester (I guess I don't want to give him a second Plat )

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Introductions / Hi there

« on: April 15, 2014, 04:30:42 am »

After being registered for a year and breaking my silence yesterday I think it might be time to introduce myself?

I'm from south western Germany and work as a Software Engineer. I started playing Dominion in RL at the end of 2011, online at the end of 2012. I've been a Dominion youtube junkie after finding an article with videos by WanderingWinder on DS resulting in watching much more videos than actually playing (or reading/writing here). After being short on free time (in Dominion speech: playing upgrade on a house, only in RL) I've started over playing online myself and I've actually started writing here!
Besides that, I might be the only German who does NOT like beer. But at least I like Bratwurst and Soccer so your view of the world shouldn't totally be shattered now . Other than that, I'm a veteran MTG player, spending all my money for it during my teenage years and I've been a moderator on a (back then) popular German MTG forum. I like other board games, too, especially since my wife doesn't like to play Dominion against me any more . At the moment we play Race for the Galaxy.
And finally I'm a music freak and am into 80's wave and post punk and recent indie music.

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Help! / Analyze the newbie

« on: April 15, 2014, 03:05:08 am »

So, I wanted to do this a long time ago.
I'm posting some of my games here where I think I played really well or totally poor. Maybe some of you would like to take a look and comment the matches.

1) http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20140413/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1397415110611.txt

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Swindler, Advisor, Mining Village, Talisman, Treasure Map, Jester, Rabble, Venture, Grand Market, King's Court

This really looks like an engine to me. And it's a Colony game, so I totally want to build that engine.
Mining Village is a village, Rabble is draw that attacks, there's KC and GM. I'm going for it but things never seem to come together, probably because my deck is so bloated. After many painful turns with a lot of bad plays I can go off getting a huge mega turn which is much better than I had expected. My swindler that turn helps me to pile Colonies but I could have simply gotten all the Provinces istead. Overall, I feel I just won because my opponent played even worse than I did. The problem seems to be that there's no trashing and there are a lot of attacks. Maybe I should have just grabbed a few attacks, money and grabbed the points I could get.


2) http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20140413/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1397417820145.txt

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Transmute, Crossroads, Stonemason, Lookout, Warehouse, Bridge, Silk Road, Spice Merchant, Harvest, Horn of Plenty

Here's Horn of Plenty, and I really like Horn engines. But the problem is, there is no real draw and only weak trashing. Crossroads is the only village. I'm totally sure that the engine can't work out here. Looking further, I see there's Bridge + Silk Road, which I think is a thing. My opponent opens the same way I do, but is going for the HoP. I think I build up quite well, grab two Silvers, four Bridges and add two Crossroads, which should help me to play multiple bridges early on and with the many expected green cards later. I decide that Crossroads should become the third pile to be depleted. Maybe I could have bought a copper on a spare buy, but other than that, I think I got a really clean win, driving piles quickly. After the match I realized a single Dutchy would have been worth 11VP, but I've been just so far ahead there was no reason to lengthen the game.

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Dominion Articles / Re: Engine over BM

« on: April 14, 2014, 04:25:51 pm »

Also, I stream on Tuesdays around 8PM Eastern (GMT-4). You can watch live and stay silent in the chat (without even signing up for Twitch, even!) if that's what your prefer.

I've been told that I may not be the best Dominion player who makes videos, but I'm the most entertaining. I choose to take that as a compliment

Well, what can I say. I'm hoping to hit 5K on Goko one day be to allowed to play a role in your videos here, I guess that might be still far away, if at all... .
So I'd really love to watch your stream live, but I'm from Germany (GMT+2). So If I see things right, that would be at 2 AM, and I guess that's not happening unless I have a day off. But I keep an eye opened on the live streaming threads.

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Dominion Articles / Re: Engine over BM

« on: April 14, 2014, 03:52:40 pm »

I am watching streams for a few weeks now

It's awesome that you're watching Dominion streams! I'm always curious how people find Dominion streams who aren't from these forums -- do you mind sharing how you found streams and whose you were watching? I don't recognize you from my stream, though maybe I should.

Also, if there's something in a stream you'd like to have clarified, speak up in the chat! I know when I stream I don't mind explaining things on a lower level, and I can't think of anyone else I know of who streams that would (unless they were playing a tournament match). Usually there are lots of people in the chat who can explain, too 

OK, so after one year of being registered here I'm breaking my silence. Off topic right from the start, well I guess the mods are nice here, right ?
So, Hi Adam, maybe you recognize me as well, I've posted something on one of your youtube stream vids these days.
I've started playing Dominion in December 2011. After a few months I started looking for ressources about cards and strategies on the web. Once I had passed the German ones I moved on to the English pages and I've found dominionstrategy. I've read lots of articles and I think, one was written by Wandering Winder and he added logs AND videos! So that was in December 2012. I thought it was really awesome, for me as rather newbieish player to see such a great player! I think from there on I've watched all of WW's videos and even around half a year backwards to mid 2012 (I've been really glad he joined Goko after taking his Iso closedown break). So I ended up watching lots and lots more games than I've played online myself.
I've actually watched some other streams in-between and just recently found your channel and think it's really enjoyable. Quite entertaining, so I guess I'm keeping that up . I've just wondered about the chat you're talking about as I coudn't find it yet. Although I'm not quite sure if I actually dare to join it.