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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 23, 2023, 09:07:47 am »
Now I'm torn! I like seeing the scola votes and I like MiX's reasoning. Though it does presuppose math not seeing how things would look if he killed Joseph, and someone could have killed Joseph to make math look bad.

I also don't want to exile town!scola, though, and L-2 is quickexile territory. I'm talking myself out of voting at all!

Consider me open to voting math or scola.

vote: MiX

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 20, 2023, 03:20:58 pm »

I still think EFHW is scum (either traitor that is doing absolutely nothing, or strongman that is laying low and voting someone at random, kinda like what I'm doing, I think that's a reasonable thing to do in this setup as scum) but I'm fine with mathdude being the exile today, or gkrieg if he doesn't post himself out of it today.

Are you saying you are scum? By this logic, I should vote for you. My vote on scola is not random, btw, it's just that no one agrees with me (yet).

Is there an argument forthcoming? Or what is the plan for people coming around to agree with you?

The argument is just that he is having trouble coming up with content to post. He denied it ("huh?"), but then said it's because it's Day 1. After today it won't be Day 1 anymore. We'll have more information. I'll get more confident and press it harder or I'll get less confident and let it go.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 20, 2023, 12:09:36 pm »

I still think EFHW is scum (either traitor that is doing absolutely nothing, or strongman that is laying low and voting someone at random, kinda like what I'm doing, I think that's a reasonable thing to do in this setup as scum) but I'm fine with mathdude being the exile today, or gkrieg if he doesn't post himself out of it today.

Are you saying you are scum? By this logic, I should vote for you. My vote on scola is not random, btw, it's just that no one agrees with me (yet).

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 19, 2023, 11:36:02 pm »
I'm going to be busy tomorrow, so just to be sure I get my vote somewhere useful for getting an exile,

vote: mathdude

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 19, 2023, 02:54:04 pm »
My take on this is that gkrieg is super disengaged. I don't see why he wouldn't townslip for real.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 19, 2023, 02:48:01 pm »
At my layover -

@mathdude - unlike others i do find Gkrieg's lack of posting to be suspect. It's just not the way he plays as town. As town, he has gaps, but not this long, and then usually posts something which i often find insightful.

As for you, you said life changes for not posting as much, and I'm willing to give you at least some benefit of the doubt there. And your actual posts haven't seemed scummy to me.

@swowl, i don't think mix voted for gkrieg.

Are you saying that gkrieg would let down his team this way as scum but post as town?

I also would be more engaged D1 as scum, because I would have conversed with team members at least a little in the scum chat.
No chat in this game until traitor gets recruited.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 19, 2023, 10:52:08 am »
At my layover -

@mathdude - unlike others i do find Gkrieg's lack of posting to be suspect. It's just not the way he plays as town. As town, he has gaps, but not this long, and then usually posts something which i often find insightful.

As for you, you said life changes for not posting as much, and I'm willing to give you at least some benefit of the doubt there. And your actual posts haven't seemed scummy to me.

@swowl, i don't think mix voted for gkrieg.

Are you saying that gkrieg would let down his team this way as scum but post as town?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 19, 2023, 10:50:35 am »
I’m pretty happy with my vote where it is and I’m a bit disappointed the math wagon fizzled.

Tends to happen witb early wagons :p

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 18, 2023, 11:20:41 pm »
gkrieg hasn't posted in 4 days?

Prod: gkrieg

That is not alignment indicative, and if it was it would be indicative of VT.

Then wouldn't our chances be better if we exiled someone else?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 18, 2023, 12:55:37 pm »
I looked at the wrong vote count. gkrieg could be scum. I think there'd be more activity if math was scum. I'm not.

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vote: scolapasta. Having trouble posting as scum?

PPE Huh?

I think you stole my "Huh?" in your PPE here.

Reviewing, realized that you acknowledge having trouble posting Day 1, so why would you say "huh?"

I'd love it if a couple more people would vote scola and we can see if there is any reaction. I don't think any of the other current wagons are on scum.

math, scola, gkrieg - will you be putting down votes soon? The day is almost over!

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If he was trying to decide whether to vote him.

Then there's no need for him to post anything at all.

Most of us do tend to think out loud sometimes. You don't, so maybe it seems scummy to you.

I don't have some great townread on mathdude, I just think the case being made doesn't hang together.

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My point is that there were three other wagons he could have joined, or he could have started one on his own. There was no need for scum!math to even mention Joseph.

Why was there a need for town!math to mention Joseph?

If he was trying to decide whether to vote him.

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I was just getting on to "defend" you.

@mathdude voters: I get that his comment was anti-town,  but I don't see a scum narrative. Protecting Joseph? It IS early for partner theories. Hedging, certainly, but that's unnecessary for scum's agenda in this setup with several wagons going. Trying to create a no exile? Scum wants an exile. Maybe it's just that you sense anxiety in his post? I really would like to know.

He could be hesitating to join a wagon on traitor!Joseph while suggesting that he totally could vote for Joseph if only not for these purely technical reasons that have nothing to do with his reads, he could be hesitating to join a wagon on town!Joseph who he knows is a misxile while leaving open the option of joining it later when it hopefully looks less scummy to do so.
My point is that there were three other wagons he could have joined, or he could have started one on his own. There was no need for scum!math to even mention Joseph.

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A propos of nothing, I love it that my phone still suggests mafia related words like anti-town and mathdude.

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That was really rude.
What about it? The comment about fluff? I just mean there's a lot of non-commital comments. Nothing that we can really confirm or push back against.
"Actually", "unfortunately ", "fluff", "thanks" when you didn't in fact appreciate it.

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I was just getting on to "defend" you.

@mathdude voters: I get that his comment was anti-town,  but I don't see a scum narrative. Protecting Joseph? It IS early for partner theories. Hedging, certainly, but that's unnecessary for scum's agenda in this setup with several wagons going. Trying to create a no exile? Scum wants an exile. Maybe it's just that you sense anxiety in his post? I really would like to know.

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That was really rude.

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vote: scolapasta. Having trouble posting as scum?

PPE Huh?

I think you stole my "Huh?" in your PPE here.

Except I gave a reason.

My "huh" was to your reason. I do have trouble posting D1 because I'm not very good at D1 reads. (that said, I think my game has evolved so that I do sometime find D1 interactions useful to review on D2+).

I'm still unsure how to read mathdude's wagon. I don't think scum would jump on it so quickly, so my instinct is those voters are towny. But it still feels weird how it happened.
Yes, I remember you saying before that D1 feels awkward to you, and that does complicate things. But this was my impression, and it's the best lead so far.

The mathdude wagon is weird. It's hard to know what to conclude about it, if anything.

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vote: scolapasta. Having trouble posting as scum?

PPE Huh?

I think you stole my "Huh?" in your PPE here.

Except I gave a reason.

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vote: scolapasta. Having trouble posting as scum?

PPE Huh?

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I'm thinking scum!Joseph wouldn't come out with such a weak theory so early.

That's exactly what scum!Joseph would want you to think.

So scum!joseph wants to look towny and decides to do it by acting like newbie scum? Or are you just jabbing at him in an RVS way?

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So Joseph's theory is irresponsible but joth jumped on it pretty quick. I'm thinking scum!Joseph wouldn't come out with such a weak theory so early. This could be scum!joth I suppose, but also pretty weak. So, /meh for both and I won't vote.

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Having played as traitor, I always consider it an advantage, at least at first, to not know who my partner is. It makes it much easier to pretend not to know who my partner is.

Joth is tautologically correct!

Lots of big words today! Are you writing a book?

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I would put scum getting chat in the con column.

Having done that, it seems better for town for mafia not to recruit. It isn't really up to us though, is it?

Agree exile, no mass claim, jk stays hidden. Mass claim wasn't a serious suggestion, I think.

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