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I think we agree completely. Of course you should always topdeck all the treasuries you can, but if there are discarding attacks, then it's probaby not worth to buy a fourth treasury, given that their cost, as you say it, already takes into account its topdecking.

My point about the cantrips was that, even though we usually say that a cantrip can't hurt your deck as long a you don't draw it dead, they also hurt you a bit in the case of discarding attacks. Most of the time their extra benefits make up for the lack of information, but that effect is still there, and when you bought that card you paid the cost of a card that doesn't interfere with the rest of your deck (for example, the odds of matching you different cards), so maybe you would have done better buying something else.

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Also, I see people say watch out for discard attacks with topdeckers like Treasury, Scheme, or Alchemist, but it's really only necessary in games with discard attacks AND some form deck inspection (reveal top card of your deck). Unless a reveal forces a shuffle, it doesn't matter if whatever you're trying to topdeck winds up in the discard before or during your opponent's turn.

I'm not exactly sure if I understand your point about top deckers, since in most cases when you top deck something it will be in your hand by the time your opponent's turn comes around. However, there is more than one reason to be careful with topdeckers when discarding attacks are around. If you manage to get five or more treasuries/alchemists, then a discard attack is so much more powerful, because it's forcing you to discard strong cards instead of, say, coppers or VP cards.

The other problem is with cantrips in general, as most of these are. If you only have non-drawing cards in your hand, a militia leaves you with the best 3 cards out of five. If you have five cantrips in hand (say, peddlers), then you end up with whatever benefit three of those cantrips give and three RANDOM cards. To give a simple example, if you've got two vagrants, two silvers, and an estate before a militia hits, then those vagrants are hurting you, because your decision is not as well informed as if you didn't have those vagrants in your deck and had drawn whatever they are going to draw anyway.

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General Discussion / Re: roguelike games
« on: April 18, 2014, 07:45:46 am »
Back to FTL:AE.

I feel like there are many new options to tackle the trip to sector 8 with all this new content, but the fight against the flagship still requires the same setup as before to win consistently: cloaking to avoid the mass attacks in phases two and three; teleport to get rid of the missile launcher as soon as possible in phases one and two, and "empty" the flagship of crewmen in phase one; some way to get rid of the zoltan shield in phase three (say, an ion weapon); a bomb to help with the boarding; and now you also want mind control to counter the mind control in phase three and help with the boarding in phase one. You can definitely win with other setups, but then it just takes a lucky missile from the flagship to shut you down long enough for you to go down in a glorious rain of lasers and beams.

I am tempted to try hard mode just to test if this setup isn't as effective against the modified flagship, but then I am not sure I am good enough to get to sector 8 in hard mode...

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Homage to the Best Card
« on: April 18, 2014, 03:55:49 am »
Edge case: you didn't know all cards in your discard pile were junk when overpaying for Herald, so you have 5 junk cards on top of your deck.

Scavenger lets you put your deck until the discard. You should know if your whole deck is junk.

Better edge case: your deck is bloated and you want to make the next several turns really good. You use Scavenger/Herald to stack your best treasures, which Inn can't touch. You buy Inn second because you want Herald shuffled into your deck.

Crazy edge case: Your discard pile has some Scouts to help out your Heralds.

What probably happened: You used everything except for your Victory cards to play the five Scavengers anyway.  Your next turn, you will Inn two Victory cards out of your hand and maybe Herald for a reshuffle if you're lucky.  I still don't know why you didn't go green on your previous turn, but whatever.
Simplest edge-case the cards you top-decked prior to buying the inn weren't actions.

That's pretty much what I said...

Another edge case: you played the scavengers for the coin, not for top decking. Likewise, you just wanted Herald and overpaid because you had the extra coins. You also wanted Inn, and you wanted both of these cards shuffled into your deck. Any top decking was incidental.

You have 14 coins and two buys... and you go for herald and inn because your deck needs them? Sure, your deck needs all the +action it can get if it's using 5 scavengers only for the coin. I hope that, in your mind, your edge case had tons of embargo tokens on the silver and gold piles, and you felt it was so obvious as to not require to be made explicit.

Another edge case: you are so sure that you are going to win, that you are just trolling your opponent.

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General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff
« on: April 18, 2014, 03:49:22 am »
Dude I can never draw zetas and xis right. My thermo exams looked like a 4-year-old wrote them

I had one math professor who would always write one Greek letter as just a bunch of random squiggles, I could never figure out what letter it was supposed to be so whenever I needed to write it on my homework I always just tried to copy his squiggle patterns.

That has to be lower-case xi. Most of my teachers through college have written that letter as a spring of random length (or as an open loop of random winding number n should you close it, where n € [|2,5|], for the more maths-inclined).

I once had a sadistic examiner who set partial differential equations in the variables xi and eta.  The very first line of my answer was "Let X = xi and Y = eta."

I wish I could upvote this more than once.

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General Discussion / Re: A Song of Ice and Fire [spoilers version]
« on: April 17, 2014, 07:26:01 pm »
I guess it makes sense this way:
Littlefinger makes the QoT believe that they will blame Sansa for the murder due to her haing poison stones in her hairnet, but obviously doesn't plan to follow through on that. Still seems to be a bit risky to me, though, but maybe I'm overrating the chance that someone would notice the QoT stealing a gem from Sansa's hairnet[\spoiler]

I disagree with your notion that Olenna wanted to frame Sansa, when she knew she could easily manipulate her and use her as leverage against the Lannisters, and when everything was set up to frame Tyrion. Sure, things wouldn't have looked bright for Sansa after the assassination, but I think Tywin would have had the good sense to spare her if her involvement wasn't made obvious. Admittedly that's my opinion, but still.

Also how is stealing a gem from Sansa's hairnet, away from the focus of interest in the wedding, any more risky than actually dropping that gem in Joffrey's wine? For any level of skill the old woman could have, that's pretty brash. This scheme seems very contrived, either LF is disguising the truth in his favour, or it is a fabrication of his. Or GRRM HAD to have LF, QoT and Sansa implicated in the murder to move the plot forward, and that's the way he came up with, but that's not a very satisfying explanation.


Have you noticed you've got 1337 posts, Watno?

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General Discussion / Re: A Song of Ice and Fire [spoilers version]
« on: April 17, 2014, 06:39:15 pm »
The point of the hairnet would be to make Sansa think she's guilty, so he has a way to blackmail her. I'm pretty sure that's the point behin the hairnet thing. I guess it doesn't really matter wether the poison used was in the hairnet after al. Any theories to why the QoT would participate in making Sansa feel like she's involved?l

Yeah, that's possible, too.  But what is the benefit of that?  So that Sansa feels she needs to stay with Littlefinger?  It's not like she had a lot of options anyway.

But Olenna wants Joffery dead, so if Littlefinger has a way to do it, and this is his way, she may just go along with it.


Littlefinger is good at getting money and sewing chaos, not at interpersonal relationships. He feels Sansa is his, and does what he does to guarantee that she stays that way, in his own twisted way.

At that time, in King's Landing it was thought that Sansa was the only living child of Eddard Stark, and while the North and the Riverlands were technically under the rule of Roose Bolton and Walder Frey, I don't think anyone had any doubts about what the northern lords thougth about the Red Wedding and those that benefitted from it. So Sansa was extremely important at that time. There's a reason why Olenna wanted to marry her to her grandson. Failing that, making her feel like she's her accomplice in regicide could make her more docile when she gets to marry again after Tyrion is executed or whatever. She probably didn't know that LF planned to keep Sansa for himself.

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General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff
« on: April 17, 2014, 05:06:39 pm »
My smiley wasn't included in the [ spoiler ] ? Great, now I've ruined HIMYM forever for pacovf. Sorry :(

Years of watching that show, eagerly collecting every tiny bit of evidence to discover who the mother could be in expectation of the grand reveal. All that buildup, gone in a tenth of a second because of a smiley face on a thread that wasn't even related to HIMYM, despite my expressed petition not to get the finale revealed to me within minutes of the threat materialising.

All thanks to you, Teproc.

Partypooper.

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General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff
« on: April 17, 2014, 04:49:07 pm »
Also, hey, what did you guys think of the series finale of HIMYM?

Gee, thanks, now I won't be able to keep reading this thread for fear of spoilers :P

People usually use the spoiler tag in cases like this.

Eh, NOW they will (hopefully). I don't want to learn that their mother was the dog with the shifty eyes all along.

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General Discussion / Re: A Song of Ice and Fire [spoilers version]
« on: April 17, 2014, 04:41:52 pm »
This last string of spoilers is about the end of the third book and one PoV of the fifth book, if anyone is wondering.

Anyway, it struck me as needlessly contrived when I read that. There must certainly be easier ways to smuggle poison into the wedding banquet, not to mention that having Olenna poison the wine seems terribly risky, when she is in the top three most suspicious people in Cersei's feverish mind. Littlefinger could indeed be lying, he's patologically incapable of telling the truth, and this version of the events puts Sansa in a difficult situation, with LF as the only person she can trust. But then, if what he tells is a lie, what's the point of the hair net?

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Interview with Donald X.
« on: April 17, 2014, 04:11:12 pm »
Huh, that's very interesting. As it happens, haste is my favorite ability in Magic, so thanks for that.

Sorry for being completely off topic, but I feel like I recognise your username from elsewhere. You don't happen to be a Zelda speedrunner do you? Sorry if that makes no sense (you can look it up if I'm wrong and you're curious I suppose...)

Yup, that's me. Though I guess I don't do much speedrunning anymore. More into modding at the moment.

Ah, yeah, thought I recognised your name from a hack I saw Runnerguy playing. (This is my last off topic post, sorry everyone else).

You could have PM'd him.

Wow, so soon? Tables is more traditional than that. Share quotes in at least three different threads before the first PM, my mother always says.

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General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff
« on: April 17, 2014, 04:05:02 pm »
Also, hey, what did you guys think of the series finale of HIMYM?

Gee, thanks, now I won't be able to keep reading this thread for fear of spoilers :P

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General Discussion / Re: roguelike games
« on: April 15, 2014, 03:24:16 pm »
Ah.  In that situation that makes sense.  But I usually (at least on easy) don't have a surplus of energy bars.  I usually max out.  I guess it would be better to just take a dodge chance hit and lose 2 bars in the engine.  Maybe I'll try that next time

I agree with Jorbles, two less energy bars is much more manageable than basically anything else (barring something stupid like sensors, doors or medbay). In my run without cloaking or the battery, shields got hacked. That lowers your shields to zero in five seconds, and keeps them there for five more seconds. It takes five more seconds to go up to four layers. The flagship has a modified halberd beam (2 damage per room, can hit five rooms). You do the maths :p

It's unusual to be able to power all your systems from the midgame onwards, unless maybe you took the Zoltan ship. Micromanaging your energy is a core part of the game, even more than managing your crew (with some exceptions). If you find yourself depowering your oxygen often, you are doing it right.


I'm doing another run with the rock cruiser B, bought mind control. I'm not as impressed as with hacking (which is extremely powerful, thank God most random ships don't use it correctly), but it's useful. I appreciate that you can't buy all the systems you want, so maybe now endgame builds will be a bit more varied than teleport, cloaking and oh-I've-got-some-spare-scrap drone control.

I really, really like the new augmentations though, more than anything else, some of them really change the way your ship plays. There is one that fully heals your teleported crew, completely bananas with a rock boarding party and a high level teleporter.

EDIT: beat the flagship with teleport, mind control and cloaking, with very little hull damage. I had the battery, but I regularly forgot to use it, I don't think I know how to use it yet. The flagship hacked the teleport room, which was annoying rather than dangerous, since it sent my boarders back to my ship regularly. I needed two trips to destroy the missile launcher, but my own cloaking ensured that I took minimal damage until then. Mind control eliminated the crew one by one, since once you turn one of them two other crewmen gang up on him and kill him. Also the mindcontrolled guy was regularly teleported back to my ship because of the hack. Second phase was trivial with the cloak and teleport, I kinda wish they had replaced the regular boarding drone with an ion intruder, now that would be scary. Third phase would have been easy too thanks to the cloak, but the augmentation that let me bypass zoltan shields made it trivial. Also my own mind control negated the flagships mind control, so there was nothing it could do.

It looks like unlocking the secret ship in the advanced edition is both harder and easier, since there's more events to chose from. I've played close to eight hours, and only encountered one of the two random events needed to kickstart the quest once. On the other hand, you can now unlock it automatically if you beat the flagship with all layouts A and B. Also Rock Cruiser C starts with one member of the secret race, so you can stumble across the ancient device in the Rock homeworlds and activate it without all the fuss of the first two events.

Also: Have you guys found that they don't give you nearly enough time to get to the boss? Multiple times I have gotten to the ship in as few jumps as I could and it was 1-2 jumps away from the base...

The flagship needs to spend three turns in the base for you to lose, so it should be fine. You shouldn't dally in the last sector anyway, the drops are not good and there are no shops AFAIK.

PS: My posts keep getting longer and longer, I should self-impose some sort of limit on the number of times I can edit a post.

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General Discussion / Re: roguelike games
« on: April 15, 2014, 11:34:10 am »
also, the final boss is harder with the advanced edition content enabled...

After a year long break, tried to start again with the rock cruiser A on normal difficulty, went as well as you could expect. I lowered the difficulty to easy, and got to the end boss after a couple of tries. I was in for a nasty surprise, especially since I didn't manage to buy the cloaking device... The hacking in the first phase was nasty but manageable. The 35 seconds (!!!) of mindcontrol that you can't do a thing about during the third phase because of the super Zoltan shield was lethal. Didn't manage to board the ship in time to avoid death by missiles.

I checked the wiki, and what they've done to the end boss in hard difficulty is just cruel.

WON.

Congrats!  8) \golf_clap
May it be the first of many succesful runs!

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General Discussion / Re: roguelike games
« on: April 14, 2014, 04:22:10 pm »
FTL just got a free upgrade which adds a whole bunch of content to it for anyone who has the game already. It's pretty fun and adds among other things mind control, hacking, a new race of metal aliens that don't breathe air, and cloning.

Just saw that, looks really amazing, I'll have to pick it up again when I have more time (right now my free time is being devoured by Might and Magic: Duel of Champions).

You're forgeting that the new race actually absorbs oxygen from the room they are in, that they have a new ship, and that every existing ship got a new 3rd layout. Also tons of new weapons, events, etc.

Yeah, that was the "other things" I just wanted to make it sound interesting if people hadn't heard of it, but didn't feel completist.

For a free expansion two years after the launch of the game, I thought it was important to point out that it is a rather large one!

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General Discussion / Re: roguelike games
« on: April 13, 2014, 06:48:37 pm »
FTL just got a free upgrade which adds a whole bunch of content to it for anyone who has the game already. It's pretty fun and adds among other things mind control, hacking, a new race of metal aliens that don't breathe air, and cloning.

Just saw that, looks really amazing, I'll have to pick it up again when I have more time (right now my free time is being devoured by Might and Magic: Duel of Champions).

You're forgeting that the new race actually absorbs oxygen from the room they are in, that they have a new ship, and that every existing ship got a new 3rd layout. Also tons of new weapons, events, etc.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: In Soviet Dominion...
« on: April 11, 2014, 04:34:04 pm »
"You people playing American Dominion have it easy. Taxman let you trash copper.
In Soviet Dominion, coppers let taxman trash YOU!"

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: In Soviet Dominion...
« on: April 11, 2014, 02:40:01 pm »
So, trying my hand at Russian Reversal.

"Everything good in American Dominion. You put treasure in hand with hunting party.
In Soviet Dominion, you hand treasure to Party or Party hunt YOU!"

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: In Soviet Dominion...
« on: April 09, 2014, 04:05:10 pm »
In Soviet Dominion, Witch ng You!

Why, oh why does this not have more upvotes?
Because I didn't understand it until now.
I still don't understand it.

Since jokes are funnier when explained¹, the implication is that otherwise "You ng Witch" (whatever that means), which with the Russian reversal becomes "Witch ng You".

This is funny because there is a card "Young Witch".²

Now go back and upvote my post, please!

1. No wait, that is so last week! Sorry!
2. Sorry again!

I didn't upvote at first because I thought that ng didn't mean anything, so it felt a bit forced. Then I thought that ng was a contraction of "nag" and upvoted it (who knows with all these young people around). Now that I know that ng doesn't actually mean anything, I am torn.  :-\

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Largely irrelevant, but I'd like to point out that the Stash + Scavenger combo works with 3 Stashes and 3 Scavengers too, which is cheaper than the 4+2 version.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: In Soviet Dominion...
« on: April 09, 2014, 07:48:21 am »
In Soviet Dominion Strategy, you earn respect with Strategy articles.

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General Discussion / Re: A Song of Ice and Fire [spoilers version]
« on: April 07, 2014, 05:29:57 pm »
Further regarding Stannis
Well, I wouldn't consider being sacrificed due to most likely misinterepreted phrophecies fair treatment. There are many people I guess would be better kings, though none of them are in a good position to get that job and they're probably not even interested in it. I don't see how the average lord would be worse than Stannis.

I admit that he has to work on that nasty tendency of his to burn people alive to make other people die, but I believe that Davos can reign that in. He's also the guy who went and defended the Wall when asked, that counts for something. And the problem with random lords is that they don't have a claim to the throne, which comes with its own set of problems.

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General Discussion / Re: A Song of Ice and Fire [spoilers version]
« on: April 07, 2014, 09:52:42 am »
I don't see how you can want Stannis on the throne

Well, he's a BAMF. Also both a competent ruler and alive, two qualities that don't stay together for long in this saga. His reasons to fight for the throne are admittedly not the best ones, and he's got a difficult relationship with ethics, but at least he is perfectly fair with his subjects. Should he listen more to Davos and less to Melisandre, he would make a perfectly good king IMHO.

Who would you rather see in the throne, anyway? Poor Tommen is not going to last when there are so few competent people backing him. I hardly see the Targaryens getting a hold on Westeros, when every house but the Martells would oppose them, with or without unsullied. And you would have to be mad to back any Greyjoy. Who's left, the Starks?

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General Discussion / Re: A Song of Ice and Fire [spoilers version]
« on: April 06, 2014, 04:17:39 pm »
Varys being a Blackfyre?

Cold hands being Benjen Stark?

Also the Shavepate is so going to double-cross everyone.

I also support Stannis for the throne, but it's not like there are that many good pretenders. Daenerys might take over in my heart if Stannis lets Melisandre do too much of whatever she wants to do, and even then I would first back whatever scheme Doran Martell is cooking up.

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General Discussion / Re: roguelike games
« on: April 06, 2014, 07:15:35 am »
This is fairly ridiculous. Luckily he'll banish you soon :p

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