That settles it. Jesus was clearly pro-choice. Try explaining how he fed 5,000 people with five loaves of bread and two fish without using Banach-Tarski.
Most new players seem to die out during the base part of the lifecycle. They never make it far enough to get frustrated by Watermill and Almanac.
But then when I check the leaderboard, only 90 players left. I still recall the days where the leaderboard consists of over 1000 players while there are thousand of games going on everyday, but those are the past.That's mostly due to Google ID phased out.
And what is wrong with innovation?I won't blame the game for that.
it is hard to show and teach this game.Sure. It's a Chudyk game so I'd expect that cards are used in multiple ways. As far as I am concerned I failed to wrap my head around Glory to Rome.
Bottom line:
Please put a patch on Watermill, Almanac and Industrialization, in particular for echoes gameplay.
My suggestion:Sounds good and should be about ok. It would still be a massively strong card but doesn't win you the game single-handedly.
Almanac: dont give the +1 age with that dogma anymore. You still score, still ramp though echo cards and still hit a higher age occasionally but at least you cannot end the game alone with that card most of the time.
Watermill: when you finally stopped by hitting a non-echo card, change that so you have to tuck that card too. The result is you cant use that as a free age-jumping perform without things like empty colors or self board-removal stuff(actually it is nice this way since they do introduce cards like scissior which allows you to do that).Hmm. That way it only takes half a turn to reactivate Watermill. That bonus-free Echo in hand means I have to get rid of it, get a new bonus, repeat, which lasts longer. I still think Watermill is a trap card since it stops short so often, and I only pursue it actively with enables like Lever.
Industrialization: change to:"(fac)draw and tuck a 6. (fac)draw and tuck a 6 for every 4 factory icons on your board. (fac) splay...." Seriously I cant think of a real way to stop Industrialization spam as this card is meant for spamming at the beginning. My idea is, if the speed is a bit slower it should allow your opponent to react for 1 or 2 more turns.
Innovation, my favorite game.
(At least 50% chance this has been said here already, fingers crossed...)
I just want to express my happiness here that the metagame has shifted towards "Engine every chance you get". Back when I played my first game, I naturally saw the Village-Smithy engine as the heart and soul of the game. I was slightly disappointed when I read that "BM Double Terminal is going to be strong more often than you think" (though the thrill of knowing a "better strategy" than most plebs more than compensated at the time). When I returned to Dominion and found that Engines are Cool Again, it was pretty great.
Know Your Meme says "mildly risky". In the context of Dominion, Princing a Remake is more than mildly risky.
That isn't the context, though. The context is living.
"I rode a hippopotamus the other day."
"Ha, you should hear about the time I Princed Remake!"
... but it had nothing that drew me in the way Dominion did immediately, nor did it provide me with any sort of "carrot" that made me willing to undertake the learning curve necessary to a) get better or b) enjoy it more.
dammit, English needs a second-person plural.
With the recent developments in the area of algorithmic FAQ-answering generation, how worried are you about your position being overthrown by a robot?
SheCantSayNo beat you to the punch a page or two ago, bro.
Which makes it an FAQ and was answered accordingly.
*a FAQ
Not if you say it "eff ay cue".
Edit: And, I'm way behind.
... because that's how it would work in Finnish.
With the recent developments in the area of algorithmic FAQ-answering generation, how worried are you about your position being overthrown by a robot?
SheCantSayNo beat you to the punch a page or two ago, bro.
Which makes it an FAQ and was answered accordingly.
*a FAQ
With the recent developments in the area of algorithmic FAQ-answering generation, how worried are you about your position being overthrown by a robot?
SheCantSayNo beat you to the punch a page or two ago, bro.
Would you agree that Kingdom Builder "can claim Weiqi (Go) as its spiritual ancestor"?
Well I blabbed about it right away, in the secret history. I have had the experience though of people not seeing the connection between the abilities, asking me what the deal is.Jack of All Trades is an example of something much more subtle; you might never realize that the four things defend against the different kinds of attacks.
Uh, I thought it was common wisdom.
Jack of All Trades is an example of something much more subtle; you might never realize that the four things defend against the different kinds of attacks.
Are you allowed or required to bid on plants you don't need? If yes, how is it different from resources you don't need?
the idea is that if you're the only one left who can bid against someone for a top plant, you have to "police" the game essentially. make sure the plant goes for something close to fair market value. a lot of high-level power grid is policing, really - think of starting builds and why it's bad to have 3 players right next to each other.
i will say that the auction issue is less widely agreed upon than the others, as i have seen good players not bid on others' plants at all if they're dead. what many don't like is the element of luck that adds...if some top-notch plant doesn't show up until it's down to one player who can win and one player who can't, not bidding can throw the game to them. bidding on the plant makes it more similar to what would happen if other players were still in the auction, and power grid has plenty of variance already so people tend to like that.QuoteThis sounds strange to me. So if you don't have a shot at winning, you essentially switch into dummy mode? Might as well leave the game and have an algorithm play your last moves?
yep! it's about reducing variance (by making the endgame more predictable with this "honor code" stuff) and making the game faster. a 4P power grid probably takes twice as long as a 2P dominion game on average, so the latter is not an insignificant motivation.
QuoteCaylus is a dry worker placement I haven't managed to get on the table more than twice, but it looks brilliant. I like Through the Ages better, but it also has kingmaking issues that are heavily and repeatedly debated.
yeah that's my reservation with caylus. i'm not so sure i WANT a game with "zero luck" or whatever, but plenty of people i know swear by it. i don't know too much about through the ages, but i forgot that game has netplay now and the theme is a lot cooler to me than dominion's. for now i'm going to stick with the game that has an established 2P scene though~
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/creativity/custom-card-creation/612057-generating-magic-cards-using-deep-recurrent-neural
- don't buy out another player's resources at the end if you can't win, unless you actually need those resources to run a plant.
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- don't bid other players TOO high on plants they need at the end if you can't win, but don't let them have those plants for free either. this is the trickiest issue,
- don't break any of these rules even if it will get you second place instead of last.
basically the general concept is "do what's best for you as if the other players didn't exist".
(only caylus seems to compare from what i've heard)
