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Adventures Previews / Re: Preview: Giant
« on: April 03, 2015, 01:15:13 pm »
This expansion is becoming more and more ridiculous (in a good way).

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Adventures Previews / Re: Preview: Haunted Woods
« on: April 01, 2015, 10:32:31 am »
Does this mean your opponent is limited to one buy unless that player happens to lay both treasure at the same time?  Two platinums would allow you to buy a $6 and a $4 as long as you buy the $6 first?

No, you always play all your treasure cards before buying anything. You aren't allowed to ever play more treasure after you buy something in your buy phase. You don't play each treasure you need to pay for a card as you buy that card. In the buy phase, you first play all treasures you want to play, one at a time, and then you buy all the cards you want to buy.
Of course.  Thank you.

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Adventures Previews / Re: Preview: Haunted Woods
« on: April 01, 2015, 10:29:33 am »
Does this mean your opponent is limited to one buy unless that player happens to lay both treasure at the same time?  Two platinums would allow you to buy a $6 and a $4 as long as you buy the $6 first?

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Goko Dominion Online / Re: Thought after a day on Goko
« on: June 28, 2013, 03:58:19 pm »
When you are poor, living day to day, up to your ears in debt (where I have been) you can not "afford" to spend $45 on something frivolous.  I am guessing I could walk up to him today, hand him $45 and he still couldn't "afford" to pay for Goko.  He'd could, although, "afford" to buy dinner or toilet paper or a birthday card or socks...

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Goko Dominion Online / Re: Thought after a day on Goko
« on: June 28, 2013, 01:50:54 pm »
I was scared off by Goko for the longest time from all the posts.  Finally took the plunge a couple months back and was pleasantly surprised.  I never cared for Iso so always avoided it.  With that, I have nothing to compare Goko to except the physical game.  There is a learning curve with some fiddly Goko things but after some "game mistakes" it doesn't take long to get in the groove.   $45 seems to be a fair price but I wish the promos were available for purchase.  I'd give Goko a B- at this point.

My parents (and soon to be student loans) pay for my transportation and food, and I work without pay at a research lab - or, at least, they haven't paid me yet. So no, I literally can't afford Goko. I can't even afford to go out and eat.
Been there.  He's right.  He can't afford it.

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Guilds Previews / Re: Guilds Secret History discussion
« on: June 27, 2013, 12:33:19 pm »
You could have a duration attack that only attacks this turn, and not the next.
Make it next turn.  That way you can make 'em think about it. 8)

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Guilds Previews / Re: Guilds Secret History discussion
« on: June 26, 2013, 03:49:24 pm »
I am also hoping for some good Duration cards in the future but aren't Coin Tokens the epitome of the Duration mechanic?

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If the dude resigns on me and then wants to play again, ain't happening.

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Guilds Previews / Re: So when do the rest of us get ours?
« on: June 25, 2013, 11:23:46 am »
Mine is still in Oregon.

...Mine is in Florida...

Mine is on Goko.

And after getting it for $4, who on Earth would want to spend $30 on it? You already paid for Guilds once, RGG should really just give you the cards for free now.
I see what you did there.

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Guilds Previews / Re: Favourite Guilds cards
« on: June 24, 2013, 12:34:40 pm »
Soothsayer is by far my favorite card.  Maybe not always the best choice but it sure sucks you in.

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Guilds Previews / Re: Overpay cards and the best cards lists
« on: June 22, 2013, 10:30:03 am »
It's all about tone...

and out of the kindness of your sweet heart
I see now this going nowhere.  Excuse me if I offended anyone.

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Guilds Previews / Re: Overpay cards and the best cards lists
« on: June 22, 2013, 08:27:35 am »
I appreciate everyone's contributions to the site. What Qvist provides must be very time consuming and is something beyond my compiling capability.  That said, I am sure you agree I have a right to give feedback and input on what he is providing.  I hope Qvist and you do not misconstrue my intent to improve the lists as ungratefulness.

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Guilds Previews / Re: Overpay cards and the best cards lists
« on: June 22, 2013, 08:09:08 am »
I thought they were provided for the community.  My bad.

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Guilds Previews / Re: Overpay cards and the best cards lists
« on: June 22, 2013, 07:31:06 am »
You can do whatever you want with potions. I don't think many pay much attention to that list anyway.

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Guilds Previews / Re: Overpay cards and the best cards lists
« on: June 22, 2013, 06:55:20 am »
$3 Masterpiece
$4 Masterpiece
$5 Masterpiece
$6 Masterpiece

$2 Stonemason
$3 Stonemason
$4 Stonemason
$5 Stonemason
$6 Stonemason

$3 Doctor
$4 Doctor
$5 Doctor
$6 Doctor

$4 Herald
$5 Herald
$6 Herald

Pretend we got a large expansion after all.

So $7 Masterpiece doesn't exist?  What about the $13 Masterpiece I purchased the other game with a Tac deck?  It seemed pretty strong.
If it is important to you we can include a $13 Masterpiece with the other $13 cards.

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Guilds Previews / Re: Overpay cards and the best cards lists
« on: June 21, 2013, 11:03:40 pm »
$3 Masterpiece
$4 Masterpiece
$5 Masterpiece
$6 Masterpiece

$2 Stonemason
$3 Stonemason
$4 Stonemason
$5 Stonemason
$6 Stonemason

$3 Doctor
$4 Doctor
$5 Doctor
$6 Doctor

$4 Herald
$5 Herald
$6 Herald

Pretend we got a large expansion after all.

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Guilds Previews / Re: Overpay cards and the best cards lists
« on: June 20, 2013, 05:13:39 pm »
Why don't we just rate all of the cards from 0-10 (or 0-100 if you felt like it).
Then you can arrange them into a ranking however you like. Also it is way easier for the participants to do.
Or from 1-205.   ;)

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Guilds Previews / Re: Overpay cards and the best cards lists
« on: June 20, 2013, 06:15:02 am »
Um guys, Qvist already chose what is happening. What are we arguing about?
This would be the discussion part of education and discussion.

We all know that Dominion is anything but consistent but if we keep making exceptions for different situations.  A $2 Chapel is a horrible purchase if it is the fifth one in my deck.

To actually make a useful list it should go from the cheapest card to the most expensive.  In the end, the list would generally go from $2 to $7 with some blurring of costs.  It would provide better education...what is typically the best use of $4?  Overspend for Chapel?  And discussion...pull Chapel from the $2 dregs and compare it to other power cards.

Education?  What, are we all supposed to go to Dominion School now?  For fuck's sake, man, it's a game.
Real pleasant.

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Guilds Previews / Re: Overpay cards and the best cards lists
« on: June 19, 2013, 08:06:04 pm »
Um guys, Qvist already chose what is happening. What are we arguing about?
This would be the discussion part of education and discussion.

We all know that Dominion is anything but consistent but if we keep making exceptions for different situations.  A $2 Chapel is a horrible purchase if it is the fifth one in my deck.

To actually make a useful list it should go from the cheapest card to the most expensive.  In the end, the list would generally go from $2 to $7 with some blurring of costs.  It would provide better education...what is typically the best use of $4?  Overspend for Chapel?  And discussion...pull Chapel from the $2 dregs and compare it to other power cards.

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Guilds Previews / Re: Overpay cards and the best cards lists
« on: June 19, 2013, 07:33:27 pm »
I guess I don't understand the purpose of the lists. Are we comparing cards, cost, or value?

I made a long post about this already. We are comparing the general impact of cards on the board and for easier measure we group them by cost before.

Is this to promote discussion or education?

Both.
The impact of cards on the board?  Not sure exactly what is meant by this or it's usefulness to a typical Dominion player.  It seems the most useful list would be one that would compare each card by cost and their value/strength.  If I have four coins to spend what is typically my best purchase? 

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Guilds Previews / Re: Overpay cards and the best cards lists
« on: June 19, 2013, 07:12:33 pm »
I'm not surprised you understand jonts26.  From what I can tell he is with the majority. Not necessarily right but the majority.

I guess I don't understand the purpose of the lists. Are we comparing cards, cost, or value?  Is this to promote discussion or education?

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Guilds Previews / Re: Overpay cards and the best cards lists
« on: June 19, 2013, 06:11:25 pm »
In the end.  It doesn't really matter.  A list will come out that I'll glance at for a minute or so and I'll be done with it.

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Guilds Previews / Re: Overpay cards and the best cards lists
« on: June 19, 2013, 05:32:16 pm »
I think he meant the cards that have on-buy effects that don't cost money. 

Anyway, Stonemason shouldn't be on the $5 card list because it isn't a $5 card.
Yes, thank you.  That is what I meant.


  I believe Stonemason is a $2, $3, $4, $5, $6 card.  It says so in the bottom left side of the card itself.  2+.

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Guilds Previews / Re: Overpay cards and the best cards lists
« on: June 19, 2013, 05:20:35 pm »

I don't have the luxury to ignore anything.  If the $5 Stonemason isn't included I can't add it.  Why wouldn't a $5 power be compared to other $5 powers?  That seems to be the whole point of the lists.

The problem is there's no such card in dominion as a $5 Stonemason. There's just stonemason.
A Stonemason that costs me $5 and give me a power that can't be bought at $2, $3 or $4.

But it didn't cost you $5, it cost you $2.  The extra power cost you $3. 

Another analogy is Black Market, which has an "on-play" overpay effect of letting you buy 1 of three cards (chosen randomly from a separate deck).  Sure, it costs $3 to buy, but its use technically costs money, so its like a $3+x card where x is paid in arrears.  If Black Markets wording was like Noble Brigands ("when you buy this or play this"), would you want to rank it at a different price point?

I also wonder if this entire discussion isn't motivated mostly by a bias with the word "overpay".  If Stonemason were worded "When you buy this, you may take -X coin, to a minimum of 0 coin.  If you do, gain two cards, each costing no more than X," would we consider Stonemason anything but a $2 card?
Overpaying isn't a mechanic that presides over the entire game.  I can't overpay a Witch and gain extra power.  The Stonemason's overpay is on the card.

It's a mechanic that's specific to the card.  But so are many other mechanics that happen on particular cards.  Lots of cards have special mechanics (Island, Noble Brigands, Mandarin, Black Market, etc.).  The on-buy effect is something you take into account when you choose whether or not to buy the card.  Other cards have on-buy effects (but it doesn't cost more coin).
and that is why I am not arguing for them to be listed mor e than once.

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