I was wondering if you liked the $4 Conspirator or the $6 no Copper Grand Market?
Tuyolqx
Yeah I think that game was approaching 2 hours.
I was the only one who went for Cultists (my family has this weird aversion to Attack cards; they don't like getting hurt by them, but they also don't seem to want buy any for themselves). I think after I had 3 Cultists my next $5 buy was HoP, I ended up with 2 Junk Dealers, Sir Michael, a Fortress, all supporting a nice Hamlet/Menagerie engine. My grand finale was a HoP-->Province mega turn.
With more experienced players, the Ruins would definitely be more evenly distributed, so I'm not sure I could just try the exact same thing and still win big.
I had a lot of fun* with the Dark Ages/Cornucopia set Dark Carnival: Band of Misfits, Cultist, Fortress, Hermit, Junk Dealer, Knights / Fairgrounds, Hamlet, Horn of Plenty, Menagerie
*warning: this lead to a very long four player game. One of my sisters had only played Dominion a couple times, and my other sister and my mother also took a while deciding what strategy to pursue, so it wasn't a terribly fast-paced set.
Yes, I do.
I will post them 2-3 times a week, starting soon, probably tomorrow.
I think Shelters were made to be used where there is trashing available, and Colonies and Platinums were created to lengthen games where big engines and big money turns are available. Do you agree?
warrior297
I don't think so.
Shelters change the game when trashing is available, but they also change the game when it isn't.
Colonies can lengthen the game when big engines and big turns are available, but they ALSO change the game when such engines/turns aren't available. They MAKE engines viable even when you can't really make a big engine. They completely change the dynamics and pacing of non-engine games too.
... When using an engine, Altar is ONLY useful when trying to build it...I wouldn't buy altar late or anything but I'm pretty sure it remains useful pretty long if you're going for an engine without other trashing (and obviously continues to be good if fortress is out). Namely, late game you can get a fairly cheap duchy and earlier, if you can draw more than your whole deck, you can gain a card and draw it all in the same turn allowing you to continue to build your engine while it is already running smoothly and allowing you to get more immediate gains from altar.
I agree with you totally, I apologize for I used wrong wording, and should have said,"Altar should not be purchased after you have already built your engine, unless you want a Duchy like you had menchioned." Altar still has a use toward end game, but should not be a "must-have" card.
I explained why - I like the idea of standardization so that if I run into someone else who plays, we've got experience playing the same game.
Well that is an actual way of playing Dominion. It increases the fun of the game by allowing the game to last longer. What makes you say using platina and colonies all the time not real dominion?If there is an opportunity for a strong deck to be built, we ALWAYS use platina and colonies. It adds a lot more excitement to the game. I find some DA cards even more potent to create huge engines than some Prosperity cards. Our rule - ALWAYS use Platina and Colonies.That's a dominion variant then, not actually dominion.
warrior297
I can't speak for pops, but I agree with him and I'd say the Prosperity rulebook is what makes me say that.
Why do you think playing with colonies and platina makes the game not true Dominion? I mean, Donald X. made different expansions with different cards so people can make their own decks that are the most fun. I would think he is recommending platina and colonies only be used when using prosperity, not saying it is against the rules to use them with other games.
warrior297Quote from: Prosperity RulebookIf only Kingdom cards from Prosperity are being used this game, then the Platinum and Colony pilesHaving said that, I don't see why anyone particularly cares if you're playing "true Dominion" or not.
are added to the Basic cards in the Supply for the game. If a mix of Kingdom cards from Prosperity
and other sets are being used, then the inclusion of Platinum and Colony in the Supply should be
determined randomly, based on the proportion of Prosperity and non-Prosperity cards in use. For
example, choose a random Kingdom card being used - such as the first card dealt out from the
Randomizer deck - and if it is from Prosperity, add Platinum and Colony to the Supply.
I think if you always want to play with Colonies nothing wrong with that. But, some cards and strategies are not as fun to play in a Colony game and vice versa. For instance, Jack of all Trades is very strong in Province games, but in most Colony games those Silvers make little difference. So, always playing with Colonies actually changes some of the cards. Same thing with Shelters, Ambassador is a powerhouse in estate games, but throw in Shelters and most of the time, the correct play is to not buy Ambassador at all.
Well that is an actual way of playing Dominion. It increases the fun of the game by allowing the game to last longer. What makes you say using platina and colonies all the time not real dominion?If there is an opportunity for a strong deck to be built, we ALWAYS use platina and colonies. It adds a lot more excitement to the game. I find some DA cards even more potent to create huge engines than some Prosperity cards. Our rule - ALWAYS use Platina and Colonies.That's a dominion variant then, not actually dominion.
warrior297
I can't speak for pops, but I agree with him and I'd say the Prosperity rulebook is what makes me say that.
Well that is an actual way of playing Dominion. It increases the fun of the game by allowing the game to last longer. What makes you say using platina and colonies all the time not real dominion?If there is an opportunity for a strong deck to be built, we ALWAYS use platina and colonies. It adds a lot more excitement to the game. I find some DA cards even more potent to create huge engines than some Prosperity cards. Our rule - ALWAYS use Platina and Colonies.That's a dominion variant then, not actually dominion.
You can add Colonies, if you like, but I do believe an all DA game is intended to not be played with Colonies. But, other people probably feel different on the matter, so don't worry.We always love to add Platina and Colonies in all games. Makes it more interesting.
Just played the DA recommended set Grim Parade... <snip>
warrior297
I don't think you should have gone market square at all, as your cards are not going to be trashed (except forager I guess, but you need collision) as nobody else bought knights. Silvers would have been better here for your economy. Also, I don't see the engine working overall, I would go hard on the cultists (3-4), then transition into catacombs-BM which I believe is pretty strong (and the winner did go more Big Money). I also think knights are strong overall, and fitting a few of them in (especially Anna) is a strong play overall.
