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Oh yeah. With all the content I forgot that my vote was still on O. It's fulfilled its sole purpose (getting him to post), so unvote

It didn't rather. All of your refusals to put anyone to L-1 without me forced me to post.

Now I'm confused what you're serious about. Have you actually just been reading along and not posting? If so, why?

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Oh yeah. With all the content I forgot that my vote was still on O. It's fulfilled its sole purpose (getting him to post), so unvote

1103
ninja'd by cuzz, but yeah. A week guys...

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Hey Guys! Let's not be hasty. We have a week, so let's stop getting people to L-1 without discussion. Sheesh, you look away for an hour...

Not to say that Robz isn't scum. O, could you explain why
he knows policy-lynching Morgrim is never a good idea.

It seems like sort of a good idea to me, all other things being equal. But yeah, if your evidence is all true (not sure if I'm going to go read MVII), that is rather scummy. Thanks for laying out the evidence like that. Very helpful

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I am totally onboard the policy lynch for super anti-town behavior, but I think we should at least wait for O to get here. I would be a little annoyed if D1 lynch was decided before I'd even realized the game had started...

But yeah, roleclaiming, self-voting, threatening to self-hammer, posting only complaints about how one is VT...

I say unless we get a strong scum read on someone else, then we lynch Morgrim. He's just as likely to be scum as anyone else in the D1 crapshoot, and is playing anti-town regardless.

I'm holding off casting my vote until O gets here though.

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I think my time zone wakes up first, so I'm back and presumably awaiting you all.

I noticed Yuma has dropped back into misspelling my name.

As RVS is officially over, I look forward to finding out who is really scum now.  I'm hesitant to say my Robz vote was RVS, though, since he's been fairly testy in his posts up to now, and especially about being RVSed.  Snapping at the newbies seems slightly scummy, even if (or especially since?) he's been through this before.

Gaming question: do these forum games ever include actual role-playing (i.e., we all stay within the prepared flavor text for the things we discuss)?

Yours may wake up first, but I haven't even gone to bed yet! My impression of Robz's tone was that he was just messing around for most of it. He's also right that it was a bad idea to RVS him to much without keeping track of votes (I think he got all the way to L-2 even with some people unvoting). As for lynching newbs, while I personally object to this, it's not an idea wholly without merit: all other things being equal, experienced town is probably more useful than newb town. I say focus on lynching scum though (obviously).

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fgmmm...grrr...hmph...confirm...grmhh... >:(

Robz, what would have been your least favorite role to receive in this game?

Easy. Vanilla Townie. You?
grmph....grrr... *frown*

if you make a wagon on me I will selfhammer and turn up VT. BTW, I am a VT. >:(>:(>:(>:(>:(>:(

Just mad 'cause this is the millionth game where I have been a VT.  >:( >:(

Does being this obviously mad about being VT seem sort of scummy to anyone else? I realize "Morgrim is Morgrim. blah blah," but I don't know, this strikes me as odd. Robz says he hasn't ever been mafia when he flips, but he's just as likely to be as anyone else... Seems like we're overdue for a scum Morgrim (I realized that this is not how probability works).
FOS: Morgrim

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Ok. So it's still just ctrl+F? The problem is when people use the name in their posts. Oh well. Thanks.
Thats why you use the isotropic name. No one uses that one. (I now see it is the same for you for example, that is unfortunate. I don't think anyone has presented a better way yet.)

Is print mode something other than clicking the "print" button next to "Send this Topic" and "Mark Unread"? Because if not then the isotropic usernames don't show up when I click that. I think I can just click all though which does still show the isotropic usernames.

Ah. Yuma just came up with the best way I think. Thanks!

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Ok. So it's still just ctrl+F? The problem is when people use the name in their posts. Oh well. Thanks.

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Oh, also, is there a way to just see posts from a certain person?

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Geolib, why did you call O out for lurking, when Morgrim had zero posts too? (I personally do not think calling either out was really necessary yet, but you know.)

Well Morgrim did actually post something, although it wasn't terribly helpful:

Robz, what would have been your least favorite role to receive in this game?

Easy. Vanilla Townie. You?
grmph....grrr... *frown*

But mostly I was still RVSing (does that work?). Sort of prodding him to post. I think it's far more likely that he's asleep or hasn't noticed that the game started. Hence the somewhat facetious
What does he have real life or something?

Does bolding my name count as voting, or was that just to get my attention?

1112
If we're going for lurkers. Vote: O
What does he have real life or something?

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Reading about the set-up on Mafiascum. Mod clarification question. Can the Rolecop NK and investigate on the same night?

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Day 1 is generally impossible. First we'll joke around a bit, then someone will say something someone else is going to pick on, eventually we'll form a wagon which then fizzles when the accusee claims a power role. We hastily find some other target, he claims VT, we go "sweet!" and lynch him, he does flip VT. Then we analyze the wagon/night kill tomorrow and hopefully start finding scum.

Well that's rather bleak...

PDT (GMT -8, I think)

Next week will be moving to EDT (GMT -5, I think)

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For you more experienced folk, though, what are some of the strategies for going about this? What should I look for in people's posts? Is Eevee talking too much? Is that suspicious? Is anyone being too quiet? Is that suspicious? Does anyone have valid suspicions with evidence that they'd like to share yet? Can I trust any of you scum?

Well I'm not experienced, but O hasn't said anything since being the first to confirm. Maybe he's asleep or something. Would a rundown of timezones be helpful to narrow the scope of potential future excuses? Also, does anyone know of a good source (like a mafiascum article) on Day 1 behavior. It seems unlikely to me that scum will be so careless as to out themselves without some clever prodding.

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We will be using the basic 2 of 4 setup.

The setup is
1 Mafia rolecop - investigates town roles
1 Mafia goon
5 townies
A random 2 of:
1 Cop - investigates target's alignment
1 Doctor - prevents target from being night killed
1 Jailkeeper - target can't perform night actions nor be killed
1 Townie

So we've got 2 scum (1 Rolecop), 5 or 6 VTs, and 1 or 2 power roles.

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@GeoLib
Yeah, one guy sends in the kill order. It does matter who it is though, because possible jailkeepers gonna possibly jailkeep.

(This question is kind of silly, but for example I liked how Jorbles thought it would be smart for mafia to hedge their bets a bit by having the goon do the kill instead of the rolecop.)

Oh. That makes sense. So let's say you and Robz both send in NKs. Whoever sent his last is the one who is considered to be doing the NK, and if they're jailed then it doesn't happen, correct?

Also, I think jorbles, wasn't saying that it was better for you to hedge your bets. More like, "well the rolecop gets to do the investigating, so the goon should get to do the killing." only fair. Is that the strategy you'll be following?

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Newb account here.

1. I've played the lame IRL version where you're in a circle and can't really do anything interesting.
2. I got interested after reading Donald X.'s Personman lynch on the tournament "discussion" forum. Then I started reading Mafia IX (Major Arcana) because it had just started. Haven't read any others. Not really sure I have time.
3. No
4. Is this a rules question? If so, doesn't either Mafia have the power to send in a NK? If they send in different ones then the most recent one stands yeah? If it's a "who would decide" question, then I suppose we would discuss...

Also, unvote: Robz. I don't like L-2 at RVS

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I'm here. Vote: Robz for being too quick to post. Obviously excited by his Mafia rolecop PM.

1120
Confirmed. Love the flavor.

1121
Well I'm just glad that mine didn't get panned. Pleased with this result for my first try.

1122
/in

What's the slash for?

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Forum Games / Re: Losers Only Mafia
« on: August 12, 2012, 12:31:51 am »
I would be interested in playing. Totally new to this, but it looks like fun.

Cool, I'll send you a PM when it starts up

Sounds good. Thanks.

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Forum Games / Re: Losers Only Mafia
« on: August 11, 2012, 08:44:45 pm »
I would be interested in playing. Totally new to this, but it looks like fun.

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Dominion: Dark Ages Previews / Re: What card design rules are left?
« on: August 08, 2012, 12:38:46 pm »
I'd say Copper is strictly better than Curse.

Nuh uh. If your opponent plays a Mountebank, you'd rather have a curse in hand so you can discard it and avoid getting that nasty copper.
If you play an Ambassador you'd rather have a curse in hand so you can give that to your opponents.
If you play an Adventurer, you'd rather hit a curse then a copper so it will keep looking for better treasure.
If you play a Venture, you'd rather hit a curse then a copper so it will keep looking for better treasure.
If you play a Farming Village, you'd rather hit a curse then a copper so it will keep looking for better treasure and actions.
If you play a Masquerade, you'd rather have a curse in hand so you can give it to the person on your left.
If your opponent plays a Tribute you'd rather they hit a curse than a copper, so they don't get +$2.
If you opponent plays a Pirate Ship, you'd rather they hit a curse so they don't get a token.
If you play a Menagerie, you'd rather have a curse than a second copper in hand, so you can get +3 cards.
If you play a Harvest, you'd rather turn up a curse than a second copper, so you can get +$1 more.
If you have Fairgrounds, you'd rather have one curse than another copper, so it's worth 2/5ths of a point more.
If you're being possessed, you'd rather have a curse in hand, so your opponent can't spend as much.

Clearly curse is an excellent card. :-P

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