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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 06, 2021, 08:53:28 pm »
There is absolutely nothing in the flavor to support deathproof. This is desperation.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 06, 2021, 06:10:18 pm »
As much as I would love to policy exile pubby (and I really would) I think Swowl is the better choice today.

vote: Swowl

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 06, 2021, 08:43:15 am »
If I had been awake enough to make my own claim order last night, I would have moved faust back, so I'm fine with him claiming after Dylan and Swowl.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 05, 2021, 10:16:09 pm »
Hey guys sorry I thought the day was starting a lot later.

I don't really have the time or the brain power to rejigger the claim order tonight, so in the interest of time, let's go with iguana's.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 02, 2021, 09:50:25 pm »
So are we doing this? Or are we doing EFHW?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 02, 2021, 09:10:29 pm »
I wasn't online right at the end.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 02, 2021, 09:02:31 pm »
Of those 4, I take Galz. Would vote EFHW to get an exile, but strongly prefer Galz.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 02, 2021, 08:57:42 pm »
Ok so when Glooble voted faust D1, it was also because faust voted iguana?

No, I just thought faust was acting scummy. Then I changed my mind.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 02, 2021, 08:41:26 pm »
Here and willing to vote Dylan or Galz.

vote: Galz

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 02, 2021, 04:00:35 pm »
I didn't realize the deadline was so late. My class ends at 8:30, but then I have an unfamiliar bus route to navigate. Still I should be able to get online half an hour before the deadline if not a bit sooner.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 02, 2021, 01:47:13 pm »
Didds, that quote also stuck out at me when I re-read Dylan. Seemed townie I think. And there's just not that much meat on the bones as far as the case is concerned. I'm townreading faust and Didds right now, willing to join them on this wagon.

vote: Swowl

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 02, 2021, 12:42:11 pm »
vote: Dylan because let's try and avoid the scramble or at least make it happen sooner.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 01, 2021, 08:58:01 pm »
Thursday is just not a good deadline day for me. It's the one day a week I go into the office and then I have improv class which is usually starting right around deadline.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 01, 2021, 04:02:11 pm »
I re-read Dylan and I'm less sure he's the right exile for today. Still think he could be scum, but I think I like pubby better.

vote: pubby

MiX, why are you on EFHW again?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 01, 2021, 02:58:28 pm »
I think in the context of the discussion we were having its basically the same thing, but also why would that sort of inconsistency make me more likely to be scum? Scum are going to be inconsistent when talking about the specific game they are playing because they are having to keep track of a lie, but when talking in a more general sense I expect scum to be more consistent, since people watch their words more carefully as scum.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 01, 2021, 02:22:01 pm »
As for your second "inconsistency" that's also simply not true. The first statement was about me, the second was about faust. There's no contradiction there.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 01, 2021, 02:20:39 pm »
Also, the fact that you said "in 308" rather than quoting that post just now is kinda scummy. Because if you'd quoted it I think it would be obvious that it wasn't an inconsistency. So framing it that way is scummy.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 01, 2021, 02:19:39 pm »
Ok, I admit it.

I no longer have any idea why I said the word reasons.

That fact is, I wasn't thinking that much about it. Which is another thing that's townie, because as scum I consider my words a lot more carefully.

EFHW, what I said was I have no idea why I said the word reasons. That is emphatically not the same thing as not remembering what my reasons were. I meant I don't know what my reasons were for saying "because reasons" rather than just saying nothing.

I never said I didn't remember my reasons.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 01, 2021, 09:26:44 am »

Can you talk about your strongest reads here?

I should reread because a lot of this is gut feelings.

So admittedly I don't know Dylan that well, we haven't played together a lot, but he's felt off to me all game in the few posts he's made, and with his scummy place on the wagon it just feels like a good exile to me. A lot of his posts have either been defending himself of trying to make something out of nothing. If I have time I'll ISO today.

pubby just came into day 2 very weird. His "I found the scum team" post doesn't feel towny to me. He lurked most of day 1 and wasn't on the wagon just by sheer not being around.

As I said before, I often scumread faust when he is in fact town, but the fact is scum!faust has a tendency to take charge and try and control the narrative more than town!faust does. But given that 1. faust is sort of VLA and 2. we have an IC, maybe that's NAI (since an IC will naturally sort of take over that leadership role by virtue of being someone everyone trusts. Even with all that though, I feel like scum!faust would be more of a presence, pushing town the way he wants us to go. That's the experience I've had playing against faust when he was scum, and that's why I feel like he's town now.

And yes, I forgot Awaclus was the nightkill. In my defense, he tends to post sporadically when he's alive.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 01, 2021, 08:53:55 am »
Glooble, are you suuuuure you shouldn't out your reason to vote pubby D1?

Because it's either extremely convoluted or scum already knows.

There is literally no way for me to explain it without claiming, and at this point it's so thin as to be not worth considering. It's percentage points. It's the kind of reason that's okay when what you need is "slightly better than random" but completely irrelevant now that we have days worth of discussion and actual wagons.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: September 01, 2021, 08:05:35 am »
Glooble, can you give me a scum to chum?

sure:

scummiest right now - Dylan and pubby
mid-tier scummy- mathdude, Swowl, you
null- EFHW, Awaclus
slightly townie- Didds
townie- faust, iguana
IC- MiX

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: August 31, 2021, 04:38:21 pm »
With these short days, we gotta be careful not to let things stall out.

Just to recap where we are, here's the exiles that seem likely to go through to day. From where I'm standing. Maybe we can coalesce around one so we don't end up scrambling again.

pubby for comin in weird/ calling the scum team based on faulty logic/ generally acting out-of-character from his town self

Dylan and mathdude for scummy placement on the wagon (Dylan over dude for me because of earlier scummy comments)

Swowl for acting scummy day 1 - pushing a lot of people but leaving his vote parked on e. (I still feel like I'm missing something here)

Galz because of his claim? Or iguana has redacted some of that. But Galz was almost the exile yesterday and those reasons still apply.


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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: August 30, 2021, 05:43:57 pm »
It seems me, iguana and Glooble all ended on e because an alternative didn't seem possible. But it was, I made sure of that.

I just thought people would not swap fast enough, and that scum could just afk to save galz.

Glooble, is it time to claim why you wanted to vote pubby?

I wasn't online right at deadline because I had class. Otherwise I would have swapped to Galz, but as of the last time I was online it didn't seem possible.

No, the reasons were very thin and I can't give them away without claiming which I don't want to do. Seriously with all the hubaloo when I finally do reveal them you'll all think me quite mad.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: August 30, 2021, 04:47:02 pm »
I'm open to a pubby exile, but I'd like to look more into yesterday's e wagon to see who looks scummy on it.

Awaclus casts the first vote for e, based on e's criticism of my vote for pubby. Then MiX joins the wagon.

Swowl then votes e for bringing up the possibility of a D1 mass claim.

Awaclus votes for Swowl, unvoting e. MiX unvotes. Awaclus switches back to e, doesn't give a reason. MiX switches back to e again.

I then switch my vote to e because I'm townreading Didds slightly for backing down rather than pushing my exile.

mathdude joins the wagon without much explanation, putting e at L-2. For my money this is one of the scummier votes, but I admit mine doesn't look great either.

faust comes in critical of the e exile. Town points.

Galz votes for e, with two votes for himself. Hedges about it. Kinda scummy.

MiX switched to Galz.

Dylan puts e to L-1, saying he thinks "e is more likely to flip scum than Galz". This is a nothing statement. I also find this vote potentially scummy.

E claims at L-1

MiX declares that e is town, despite a difficult-to-verify claim.

Awaclus switches to Galz, putting him at L-1. MiX and Galzria switch their votes to Didds, putting e at a same-seeming L-3.

Galz claims, and I switch my vote from e to Galz. Seems more likely to get through, plus a vig who won't vig doesn't seem like a huge loss to me.

Galz swaps his vote to e again. I switch back to e as Galz wagon seems stalled and I want to get an exile through. iguanaiguana votes e, reluctantly, for the same reasons.

Hammer by the IC.

Sorry for the wall of text.  Final wagon is Swowl, mathdude, Dylan32, Galzria, Glooble,  iguanaiguana, MiX, but that order is deceptive with so much unvoting and switching. Technically Awaclus started the wagon but he didn't end up on it, despite voting for e twice. Swowl was the third vote onto e and stayed there throughout all the moving around that happened. Galzria pretty clearly jumped on as an act of self-preservation, and iguana, MiX and myself were all just trying to get any exile through. Put all this together and it has the makings of a pretty townie wagon. Scummiest members are mathdude and Dylan imo. They both got onto e when there were multiple viable wagons, didn't give compelling reasons, and disappeared conveniently during the end-of-day scramble. Granted that last one might have been due to irl concerns, but still, that's where I want to exile today. Or pubby, could still do that. Or maybe Galz, iguana's Galz case has some merit.

vote: Dylan32 for now.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: August 30, 2021, 11:36:20 am »
Looks like BM27 was my last scum game prior to that: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=19953.0

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