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Puzzles and Challenges / Re: Best Asymptotic Point Scoring
« on: January 27, 2021, 08:31:38 pm »
play Hero to gain Philosopher's Stone (topdeck)

There have been a lot of Scrying Pool/Stonemason engines posted here.  I really like the usage of Hero, though.  That's novel.  It takes 3 turns for gained Pages to be used as Heroes though.  That really dampens the growth.  Imagine that you could buy Heroes directly and use them the very next turn.  And also, imagine that they generate 3.5 Scrying Pools instead of just two.  Then the growth would be on par with an engine I posted in this thread earlier [Reply #24 on: November 10, 2018, 11:12:10 pm].

But having said that, I like when people post new ideas and yours has potential.  It has two things going for it that I see.
One:  Warriors produce a lot of coin.  Try calculating how much (and remember that Scrying Pools are also attack cards).  Once again, though, you would be looking at a two turn delay in Warrior growth;  training on Stonemason may generate more.
Two:  With Capitalism purchased, Hero is considered a treasure and may be returned to your deck by gaining a Mandarin.  Unfortumately, I can not come up with any way to limit Mandarin gains, in this kingdom, off the top of my head.

Warrior doesn't make money, that's Soldier.

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Puzzles and Challenges / Re: Best Asymptotic Point Scoring
« on: November 11, 2020, 09:38:05 pm »
I'm saying this on the basis that exchanging a card that is being gained from the Black Market deck shouldn't work, and you'll be forced to take the card you were originally gaining. So in our case, our Fairgrounds would get removed from the Black Market deck and we'd stop being able to buy it.

Though, I'm remembering that gaining Horse can be exchanged with Changeling, and that's not from a supply pile, so maybe it does work after all. I've yet to test this with the Black Market / Trader situation on the client.

Exchanging just requires a pile, it doesn't have to be a Supply pile, so Horses work. Black Market cards do not have a pile, you can't upgrade Page/Peasant from the BM for instance.

The dominionstrategy.com wiki seems to have some contradictions.  The rules given for exchanging are as you have stated, but is the Black Market deck a pile or not?

Their rules clarifications for Black Market include:

"If you buy a card from the Black Market deck and then use Trader to prevent yourself from gaining it, the bought card goes back on top of the Black Market deck."

I wonder what ShuffleIT has implemented?

That particular rule clarification predates the recent Trader errata (note that the current Trader doesn't "prevent yourself from gaining"). You can't Exchange things from the Black Market (see here: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=13044.msg483985#msg483985 and some messages below it).

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Puzzles and Challenges / Re: Best Asymptotic Point Scoring
« on: November 11, 2020, 10:10:44 am »
I'm saying this on the basis that exchanging a card that is being gained from the Black Market deck shouldn't work, and you'll be forced to take the card you were originally gaining. So in our case, our Fairgrounds would get removed from the Black Market deck and we'd stop being able to buy it.

Though, I'm remembering that gaining Horse can be exchanged with Changeling, and that's not from a supply pile, so maybe it does work after all. I've yet to test this with the Black Market / Trader situation on the client.

Exchanging just requires a pile, it doesn't have to be a Supply pile, so Horses work. Black Market cards do not have a pile, you can't upgrade Page/Peasant from the BM for instance.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Nocturne advice
« on: November 04, 2020, 02:42:29 pm »
Exorcist will be basically the same power level with just Wisps and Imps.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Minor note about new printings
« on: November 02, 2020, 11:43:02 am »
I don't understand why the infinite loop of trader/forum/cost reduction no longer works? The forum still goes back into the pile and you still get the buy back.

You can't Exchange once the Silver pile is empty, so now you can only do it as many times as there are Silver remaining.

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I've played a game online with Ruins + Way of the Mouse + Raze before. I'm pretty sure it was possible to trash the card itself. It didn't draw any cards.

This isn't how it works online (or by the rules), OP is correct.

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Rules Questions / Re: Dismantle + Wayfarer
« on: July 28, 2020, 02:10:26 pm »

Demand has a similar wording for gaining two cards. The rule book says: "The Horse goes on top first, then the card costing up to does".
Thus, I would say there is no choice. The cheaper card is gained first, and then the Gold.

Edit: Spelling.

This actually came up in a game I was in yesterday, but I opted not to try it. The Horse gain would have made Destrier cost $4, and I wanted to know if the target could be chosen after gaining the Horse or not...

The Horse is gained as soon as you click Demand, and the Destrier price changes accordingly and is choosable.

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The easier way to achieve this is Way of the Chameleon.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Cards essential to infinite loops
« on: April 24, 2020, 01:18:02 pm »
34.   Stockpile

On second thought, I think Stockpile doesn't work, since there's no way to play it again when all of them are in the exile. You can have a total of 55 plays from 10 Stockpiles, but not infinite.

You can trash Stockpiles and gain them from the trash to move them out of Exile. I admit I haven't read the entire discussion, so I'm not certain this is relevant in context.

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Other Games / Re: Mario Maker
« on: April 19, 2020, 11:51:23 am »
I made a few attempts to do a run getting all the coins, but it got boring because of the snake block coin.

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How do I set up a game with three friends of my choice on Dominion Online? In other words, not random players, but people I've invited to a game.

Follow up on that question: can I choose the cards I want to play with? I like being able to choose which games have Attacks in them, and other things like that.

When you create a table, there is a "Select Kingdom Cards" button. Which allows you to control the kingdom in various ways. You can specify some/all of them (can take a comma separated list), or say 3 cards from Menagerie expansion, or just check which expansions you'd like cards from, or control the number / type of landscapes, colonies/shelters.

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Hey, Ingix. Very helpful. Thank you.

Another question: I have a gold sub, so if I set up the table, everyone will have access to all the cards when playing with me, even if they have a minimal sub. Is that correct?

That's correct, but also I don't think it's even a requirement that you be the one to set up the table. One of your friends could be the table host and if you are a player the cards are still available.

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Dominion FAQ / Re: Rating games when multiplayer resignation occurs
« on: March 12, 2020, 09:26:53 pm »
Thank you for the reply - so what happens in a 4 player game? still the i.5? or down to 1.3?

Also I guess there is no penalty for subsequent players resigning as the game becomes unrated?

Yes, once the game reloads as unrated the outcome doesn't impact your level.

I tried to find a specific description of what happens in four player, but couldn't turn anything up. Here is Stef's (the developer) description of the 3p case:
http://forum.shuffleit.nl/index.php?topic=1855.msg6981#msg6981

Without really knowing, I'd guess it's exactly the same as 3p (1.5 wins for everyone against the resigning player).

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Dominion FAQ / Re: Rating games when multiplayer resignation occurs
« on: March 10, 2020, 08:40:20 pm »
Hi all, apologies if this is covered somewhere, have searched but... playing 3p game was in the lead. 3rd player resigns - game becomes unrated - who gets any rating points? Does the reisgning player face any penalty (as in the 2p game)

The ratings are updated as if the two remaining players got 1.5 wins against the resigning player. So there's an additional rating penalty for resigning from 3p games.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Improving play at 3+ players
« on: February 02, 2020, 04:59:37 pm »
I don't read the forums as much as I used to, but it's always comforting to know you can come home and find tristan arguing with people here.

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General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff Part IV
« on: January 16, 2020, 03:39:00 pm »

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Other Games / Re: Celeste
« on: September 10, 2019, 01:49:53 pm »
I liked Chapter 9 a lot. I didn't pay good attention to the wavedashing guide and ended up doing everything with what is apparently called hyperdashing, made some screens way harder than they should have been. Didn't realize it until I saw some stuff online.

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Dominion League / Re: Season 35 - Signups
« on: July 05, 2019, 03:19:24 pm »
I would like to sign-up if there's an opening in B.

Mic Qsenoch
America/Chicago
@Mic Qsenoch#4131
A: 6th

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Dominion League / Re: Season 34 - Signups
« on: April 29, 2019, 12:28:13 pm »
I would like to sign-up if there's an opening in B.

Mic Qsenoch
America/Chicago
@Mic Qsenoch#4131
A: 6th!

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That's really weird.  That's the URL of the product I ordered.  In my cart, it still shows a picture of Renaissance, but when I click on it, it goes to the base game.  It definitely was Renaissance a few days ago, no reviews, etc.  It would be real annoying to end up with the wrong thing here.

I can confirm that even though Amazon's page changed for a while, my copy of Renaissance did arrive today.

Just to close the loop on this, despite the oddness with the Amazon listing, I too received the correct game.

Unfortunately, there are printing issues.  The scroll borders on Cargo Ship, Ducat, Patron, Scepter, and Spices (but not Research, strangely) are very faded; like the printer was running low on ink or something.  I've reached out RGG already.  Here's hoping mine is just a one off and this isn't a widespread issue.

They are all like that. The layout sent to the printer was lighter for everything but Research.

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They become Treasures (if the inherited card becomes one). The effect of Inheritance is supposed to give them text in my understanding. And IIRC Donald at least agreed on the outcome. One other argument is that the set aside card becomes a Treasure, so the Estates copy that independly of them being directly affected by Capitalism.
Well if this is so, then we can have a quintuple-type card by Inheriting Dame Sylvia in Capitalism!

EDIT: Werewolf Inherited will be a sixtuple type!

Capitalism does nothing to Werewolf.

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Dominion: Renaissance Previews / Re: Renaissance rulebook is up
« on: November 05, 2018, 12:06:21 pm »
patron+ hunting party/library is kind of good?
Library doesn't work.

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Dominion: Renaissance Previews / Re: Renaissance rulebook is up
« on: November 05, 2018, 09:35:59 am »
Also, question: can you place multiple project cubes on the same project? If so, imagine two cubes on capitalism to turn actions into silvers.
No, and also I'm not sure what the second part means.

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Puzzles and Challenges / Re: RNG vs decisions
« on: October 24, 2018, 02:58:48 pm »
I don't understand at all, decision player can obviously always win a 3-pile ending of Curses/Copper/Estates. And of course a million other ways too.

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Puzzles and Challenges / Re: Most Potions in 1 turn?
« on: October 08, 2018, 06:08:40 pm »
As with basically every puzzle question posted since Empires, the answer is almost certainly "infinite".

I'm sure it is as well, but this one is at least nominally interesting as you have to play Treasures repeatedly for it to work. Hard mode: no Black Market

There's already the Overlord/Crown/Mandarin loop that allows you to pull treasures out of play and use them again, I'm sure it can be modified for this with either BM or Storyteller.

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