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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« on: March 20, 2019, 03:37:36 am »
This could all be a big scum collusion from the other team, and I know that MiX has a vested interest in getting my vote off of him. But I still can't deny the fact that the case against E! is fairly solid and probably a bit better than the one against MiX.  Perhaps I'm being played like a fiddle by scum here but -

Vote: E!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« on: March 20, 2019, 03:05:14 am »
Honestly thinking about shifting my vote here, but weighing it against how awful it will make me look if E! flips town.
Factoring that into your votes is what makes you look bad, not lynching  townie.
There are other reasons - none the least of which is sheeping your lead last time ended poorly for town.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« on: March 20, 2019, 12:32:42 am »
And now, @chicken, what are your scumreads? And what do you think of Space and EFHW?

I think EFHW is likely scum, but almost certainly not Maquis (this is only true if we have two scumteams, if we have an SK - I don't think EFHW is the call).

Space has been all over the place on my reads - comes out feeling pretty neutral.

I think faust's analysis of E! is spot on for the most part. Honestly thinking about shifting my vote here, but weighing it against how awful it will make me look if E! flips town.

Currently doing some thinking and re-reading, but I thought I'd share this: it's the complement of my other list: this time I'm listing each living player, and all the other players (alive or dead) for whom they've voted.
Chickenwarlord (3): MiX, Robz888, Awaclus

I also briefly voted for raerae.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« on: March 19, 2019, 12:55:34 am »
Hmmmm....well, I think Chicken looks shifty and his response to pressure hasnít been awesome, plus he was one of the three who had noticeably less interaction with Shraeye (along with Rae and Space) but heís also way new so he could just be getting is legs under him. As Iím writing this, Iím thinking more about his response to pressure and it is definitely more moderated than Iíd expect

Do people usually fall to pieces? I know it's easy to crack under pressure when stuff is happening in person, but having to live real life in between being accused of high crimes kinda takes the edge off ya know?
As much as we're making out of noninteraction with others in the thread it I find it a bit questionable that this is a sticking point. Since there wasn't a whole lot of suspicion and discussion being done about Shraeye in the first place, why would I have engaged? It seems like Shraeye is pretty well seasoned here and was just trying to interact and get reads from those with which he was familiar. As a relative newcomer, it would be harder for him to analyze or even get a read on any interaction with me.

There are plenty of ways to attack my current standing - why choose this one?
Eddie, as a guy who throws out a lot of questions asking for thoughts on X - what do you think of this 'less interaction = skum bedfellows' line of thinking?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« on: March 18, 2019, 02:09:29 am »
Or maybe that scum team found Gloobie townie.

Shraeye even mentioned Gloobie as a town read.

With all of this NK analysis going on, we might be overlooking the most simple explanation on Glooble, as evidenced here by Eddie.

I doubt we'll ever get a good understanding of why Shraeye bit the dust today. As far as memory serves no one was really making a case for Shraeye being scum were they? This could be as simple as two scum teams focusing townie-seeming players unlikely to be lynched.

Spitballing some targetfinding for Night 2 here:
Scum likely didn't NK Faust because Faust seemed lynchable after driving the Awaclus wagon. I'm fairly certain I wasn't targeted because I'm super lynchable and look pretty scummy. E had enough detractors from day 1 that he also wouldn't have been a good NK. Eddie's claim makes him a fairly bad NK target, should that be true. MiX was super polarizing on both days.
I think pretty much anyone else from the pool would make sense for scum to knock out.

If raerae is right about Glooble being offed for a reason, it was likely decided after the vote on him failed to get any traction. Maybe we should start looking before the Glooble vote?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« on: March 16, 2019, 09:12:53 pm »
Vote: MiX

I also think that the EHFW train has some merit at this point. Really hard to tell where to place a vote when everything looks shifty.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« on: March 16, 2019, 11:11:01 am »
@chicken, care to respond?
Alright, after doing a reread of JUST Glooble posts and not sifting through literally everything while at work - it is very clear I was wrong. Glooble was definitely still on the MiX wagon. I guess that does warrant some pause and time for reflection on my part.
Unvote

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« on: March 16, 2019, 11:05:03 am »
What I am seeing in the reasoning targeting me is all fairly logical for Day 2. Just keep in mind that almost all of this applies to raerae except for leaving the MiX wagon.
When I flip town after yall lynch me, I want you to remember that.
Vote: RaeRae

But if I'm doing everything you're doing and your town then why are you voting for me?
I am saying that it is a good argument and that I should probably be lynched for it - but to keep in mind that almost everything in that argument applies to you as well.

@chicken, care to respond?

Since you seem so strongly that I am in the wrong here, I should probably go back and reread Glooble. The crux of what you're implying is that he wasn't off the MiX train on day 2?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« on: March 16, 2019, 09:40:32 am »
What I am seeing in the reasoning targeting me is all fairly logical for Day 2. Just keep in mind that almost all of this applies to raerae except for leaving the MiX wagon.
When I flip town after yall lynch me, I want you to remember that.
Vote: RaeRae

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Night 2)
« on: March 15, 2019, 11:25:37 pm »
I also jumped off the Mix wagon at a critical juncture - which if you think MiX is mafia is a pretty damning move.

So how do you feel about MiX?
MiX is likely to not be Maquis at the very least. Some of those huge blocks of information that he has presented seem to be very conclusion first, then figure out what evidence supports it, which jives with the hotblooded townie vibe. By playing as aggressively as he has I would not be surprised if MiX is loved, regardless of alignment.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« on: March 15, 2019, 11:04:15 pm »
I think this is where we should focus for now. Glooble seemed to be off the MiX wagon entirely and against the faust votes. This is either some mad misdirection or these are probably not on shraeye's team.
I do not actually think this is enough to exonerate either of them - just thinking that the reason Glooble was killed were probably not either of these.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« on: March 15, 2019, 11:02:20 pm »
NK analysis is absolutely important when shraeye is involved and it's clear his team killed glooble therefore glooble's kill tells us something about shraeye's team. I mean, do you think I'm making that up or just straight wrong?
I think this is where we should focus for now. Glooble seemed to be off the MiX wagon entirely and against the faust votes. This is either some mad misdirection or these are probably not on shraeye's team.
Glooble seemed moderately critical of UoS but not enough that I would think it would paint a target on his back.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Night 2)
« on: March 14, 2019, 09:32:11 pm »
I also jumped off the Mix wagon at a critical juncture - which if you think MiX is mafia is a pretty damning move.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Night 2)
« on: March 14, 2019, 09:29:49 pm »

Why chicken?

My past two lynch votes have turned up town, I very nearly was the hammer on the innocent awaclus and Eddie has been saying I'm shifty for like 3 days. He's definitely within his rights - I look like hella scum from voting record alone.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Night 2)
« on: March 14, 2019, 10:09:28 am »
First of all, WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM

Now, if other scum had Maquis cop, do you think they would ever kill shraeye?

This is making the assumption that there was no busdriving shenanigans. We do have a setup in which shraeye not being the initial target is possible.
I am not a big fan of a maquis cop claim, since if we are aiming for maquis should we look no further than your own lynchwagon yesterday MiX? If shraeye was maquis, it is likely that at least one other was involved in voting for you. Starting there might be better than having a cop out in the open if you want to go maquis hunting.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Night 2)
« on: March 14, 2019, 09:54:32 am »
Well, the Maquis flip is nice - especially since it's the UB.
Time to go and look at the faust defense wagon and MiX hunting from yesterday with current knowledge.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« on: March 11, 2019, 07:01:30 am »
Okay yeah Uncle's right, daylight saving or something messed me up. 80 minutes now.

@chicken, who are you voting for and why? I forgot, no time to reread
I'm voting for Awaclus currently. I don't like the cryptic way that Awa has been presenting their information (though the same could be said for faust as well). Honestly at this point I am a bit lost on exactly what the play is here. All three decently discussed lynches for today give us some good info and I'm more inclined to go with either you or awaclus because of how much longer the both of your have been on the table and analyzed.
I think you are more likely to be town than awaclus.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« on: March 11, 2019, 06:39:59 am »
Vote: chicken, yeah, I'm perfectly fine with this. Chicken, what do you think we should be asking you?
Honestly, I have no clue. I think the only interesting information I could share would serve scum better than town.
I might actually do a better service to the rest of town leaving behind a record of who was willing to jump off their current vote tracks to lynch me than I ever will by pontificating.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« on: March 11, 2019, 03:40:06 am »
Vote: Awaclus, great reaction, would vote for faust again. @faust, did you post that NK analysis? Seems like you'll die with that info if you're town.
As questionable as I might find your methods - you certainly end up with some interesting results.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« on: March 11, 2019, 03:03:51 am »
Honestly looking at the staunch counterlynch defense for Faust makes me believe that there is at least some concentrated effort going on. It is also possible that he is so off-base that scum also want to keep him alive as well. I'm definitely inclined to agree with UOS here.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« on: March 11, 2019, 02:20:09 am »
The people who readily defend me but refuse to vote Awaclus are the scummiest bunch.
It does seem like there are probably some scum rushing to defend you, so when you turn up dead and town they can claim to have at least been on your side - but framing it that way seems so absolute and offputting.
The same thing looks like it's happening with MiX - who I think is also likely town.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« on: March 11, 2019, 02:11:48 am »
ChickenWarlord newb pass needs to end tomorrow.
Honestly, given what MiX put out in his analysis a few pages back - I DO seem hella scummy and I'm surprised more people haven't put me as a vote.

That said, I think we gain a lot of info with a faust or an Awaclus lynch.

Vote: Awaclus

If this goes through and Awa is town, I'm going to be giving faust the side-eye, should I remain alive to do so.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« on: March 08, 2019, 09:40:26 am »
I misspoke.
With this, your logic makes more sense certainly, but not enough to throw off suspicion.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« on: March 08, 2019, 09:33:26 am »
And why was this scummy? Sorry for not asking earlier, had other priorities and forgot.
It wasn't scummy in and of itself - but the first was a rather a poor choice of words to throw out when the populace at large already had moderate suspicion on him. The second - the call to action- just made me consider that if I was going to vote I should do it for something that was logically going to be chosen. Literally no one else had jumped on my no lynch wagon, even other people in the thread that had made arguments for no lynch weren't putting their money where their discourse was.
Was it a bit of a sheep move to vote Robz there? Absolutely. Was I already thinking about it at that point? Also yes.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Night 1)
« on: March 08, 2019, 08:54:19 am »
Of course I have written this to show that the scum!me perspective does not make sense. UoS was implying that I might be scum who NKed Jimmmmm. I am pointing out that scum!me would not have killed Jimmmmm. I don't understand why you think that makes me scum.
Faust raises an interesting point here to keep in mind for future NKs. With two scumteams- it becomes easier for them to frame specific people from outside of whatever scumteam is making their group decision. I definitelywanted to have that angle messing up my head. Thanks Faust, I hate it.

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