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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« on: November 11, 2019, 03:51:41 pm »
Late entry (I'm sure it needs tweaking, but I think it has some potential):



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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« on: November 06, 2019, 09:45:30 am »
Convulsion of Nature
Project - $2
For the rest of the game, flip your deck upside-down and play with it that way.

FAQ question: since you are allowed to count your deck, are allowed to see what all the cards are? Or does counting need to be done without looking?

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« on: November 06, 2019, 09:42:21 am »


Not sure if this qualifies of strictly better than Hunting Grounds

Cavern is strictly better than Hunting Grounds and costs less. Cavern has to cost at least .

This also seems to be a case where "reveal" isn't strictly necessary, since you have the option to not discard.

Revealing is necessary in this case. You can hide your Victories under your Copper. (Others cannot see non-top cards in your players' discard pile, so they cannot know whether you are honest.) Relying on players' bushido is not a good design.

True, relying on other players is not good design, it just seemed that the revealing while discarding, when the discard type is conditional, is implied. There are official cards that conditionally discard without specifically stating "reveal":

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Opulent Castle
Discard any number of Victory cards. +$2 per card discarded. 3 VP

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Quest
You may discard an Attack, two Curses, or six cards. If you do, gain a Gold.

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« on: November 05, 2019, 01:11:37 pm »


Not sure if this qualifies of strictly better than Hunting Grounds

Cavern is strictly better than Hunting Grounds and costs less. Cavern has to cost at least .

This also seems to be a case where "reveal" isn't strictly necessary, since you have the option to not discard.

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« on: October 23, 2019, 08:15:36 am »
I made a minot tweak to Student, using Peddler's phrasing, to make it clear that the cost is based on the players whose turn it is, not the player whose Student is being evaluated (this matters for Attacks, for example):


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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: New Card concept- standing army
« on: October 17, 2019, 05:40:04 pm »
Rather than a Reaction Duration card in the play area, have you considered making it a Reserve card that you can call from your Tavern mat?

Also, I think the cost may be too much for a one shot defense. (though it does trash the others' attack).

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« on: October 17, 2019, 03:20:01 pm »


Ideally, for theme, there would be a University mat or a Schola mat, but this game has enough mats as it is so I left it for the Tavern mat.

The Scholasticus collects research and students in the forms of Actions and then directs them. You need at least 2 of them to make the Command portion work.

Scholasticus cannot avoid loops.
Put +$1 token on this. Play this to set aside it. Play another, choosing that Scholasticus, choosing it, ...

Thank you majiponi. I forgot the "non-Command". This fixes it, yes?


This and Wine Merchant make a powerful combo. After you first play Wine Merchant, you get all the benefits of Wine Merchant for just $4 and you never have to underspend to get it back.

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I made a card like Line of Credit for the weekly design contest once:

Commonwealth
Event - @2
Gain a card costing up to $6. Take @ equal to its cost in coins.

That seemed like a clean way to make the card, but it was never playtested because I don’t have the time

Yes! That's the one I was thinking of. I think making the Event itself cost @2 is a a cleaner way than adding +@2 in the text. (and I can't see any obvious difference)

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Teaching Dominion
« on: October 17, 2019, 11:54:50 am »
For me, part of the joy of Dominion (and games in general) is discovering strategy on my own, so I focus mostly on mechanics for the first game or two, though I try to demonstrate the strategies with my play.

"Why is he trashing his Estates and his Coppers? Aren't they valuable points and money?"
"Why didn't he buy a free copper with his second buy? I mean it's free."

After a few games, if they're not seeing it on their own, I ask if they want some tips.

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« on: October 16, 2019, 10:10:34 pm »
Notes:
  • Bow lets you bypass Potion costs. This is intentional.
  • Rosin probably doesn't need the reminder text

Big shout-out to Fragasnap for making me think what an event/command card would look like.

Is it intentional that Bow also lets you bypass Debt costs?

Hm. no. That probably shouldn't happen. Although... that's what, Engineer and no others since there's no cost reduction on debt cards? and you can't trash it since it stays there, so you can't get the double-up, so it's just a workshop? That's not the worst. Should probably fix it so it plays nice with everyone elses fan cards though

maybe "At the start of your turn, +1 Buy. When you buy Practise, you may play a card whose cost in coins and debt is $5@0 or less instead."? kind of inelegant. I'll sleep on it.

It would affect any Debt Action cards (e.g. City Quarter, Royal Blacksmith) though, no? Since their cost in coins is $0.

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« on: October 16, 2019, 04:26:58 pm »
Actually, besides any general feedback, one very specific question I have, is the phrasing of "costing less than than the $ + debt this costs" clear?

The idea is that this first lets you gain a card, costing $3, then $4, then $5, etc. (i.e. you add up the $ and the debt and the cards you gain can only cost $)

That works to my read; a thing you may want to include is that it should set aside a unique card each time? ie, that card isn't already on the Student mat. Otherwise it's sorta easy to empty the Student + (other cheap card) pile to force a 3-pile ending.

If you need to free up space, you can lose the second line and just have a

or two in there before the cost modification.


Did something get cut off there? I don't follow that part about losing the 2nd line.

Regardless, is it that easy to empty the Student + 2nd pile? The first student costs $4, the second 4$@1, etc. At that point there aren't many cards that just gain you any Action (since this now has debt). And while you're emptying that 2nd pile, you'd be making the Students even more expensive for actually buying them. The 10th student, assuming you got them all, would cost you $4@9.

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« on: October 16, 2019, 03:30:06 pm »
Well now, this seems like the perfect opportunity to revisit my first ever challenge card, Student. By changing to work as a command card, and some other (hopefully, clever) changes, I've made it simpler and (again, hopefully) more interesting.



Notes:
• I debated whether it should just go up $ in cost, instead of debt. But I really liked the the thematic idea of going into debt for the more "advanced" courses. I also think it differentiates it some from Band of Misfits, when there aren't any Actions that cost more than 5 (i.e. you can still buy this when you have $4, even if it puts you into some debt).
• I made the setting aside optional, so you could gain Students without setting aside a new "course" / raising cost.
• It wouldn't make sense to ever gain just one of these, but I think that's fine. That's true of BOM too.

Feedback welcome!

Actually, besides any general feedback, one very specific question I have, is the phrasing of "costing less than than the $ + debt this costs" clear?

The idea is that this first lets you gain a card, costing $3, then $4, then $5, etc. (i.e. you add up the $ and the debt and the cards you gain can only cost $)

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« on: October 16, 2019, 02:13:34 pm »
Well now, this seems like the perfect opportunity to revisit my first ever challenge card, Student. By changing to work as a command card, and some other (hopefully, clever) changes, I've made it simpler and (again, hopefully) more interesting.



Notes:
• I debated whether it should just go up $ in cost, instead of debt. But I really liked the the thematic idea of going into debt for the more "advanced" courses. I also think it differentiates it some from Band of Misfits, when there aren't any Actions that cost more than 5 (i.e. you can still buy this when you have $4, even if it puts you into some debt).
• I made the setting aside optional, so you could gain Students without setting aside a new "course" / raising cost.
• It wouldn't make sense to ever gain just one of these, but I think that's fine. That's true of BOM too.
• One aspect of the design was to have a BoM variant that (eventually) let you play cards that cost more than $5.

Feedback welcome!

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Line of Credit, you can't buy it if you have debt anyway, so you don't need the debt check clause; also as worded, this would allow you to bypass potions and do things like pay $3 for a Familiar, which is kind of OP. Also you might want to include a default penalty of like, two or three debt for using this (compare $5 for Band of Misfits / @8 for Overlord).

Yeah, on Line of Credit I was trying to limit it's use and was considering if it was used outside of Empires. I like the idea of the debt accrued is a bit higher than the cost of the card (thematic interest). +1 extra Debt or +2? I thought Potions could not be converted, so Debt could not be substituted. I can put a quick remark that potions don't count.

Don't forget you'll also need to handle (or exempt) Debt cards. As currently written, you could get an Overlord for free.

Maybe something like: "receive debt equal to the $ and debt cost of the card."?

Another thought is to convert the $ to debt for all cards (a pseudo bridge, I think there may been a variant like this in this forum): "+1 Buy, replace the $ cost of cards with 1 debt per $" So Village would now cost 3 debt, Laboratory 5 debt, Familiar, 3 debt + Potion, Overlord still 8 debt, etc... The interest would be handled by just making the event itself cost 1 or 2. (though that means one time interest even with multiple buys)

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: scolapasta's cards: Infusion / Cauldron
« on: October 15, 2019, 09:37:55 pm »
So here's my entry from the recently ended challenge (#47):



And the feedback from the judge (Aquila):

Infusion/Cauldron (scolapasta)
Event, P +1 Buy, trash a card you have in play for + $1 per $2 it costs, if it costs $4 or more take Cauldron, then play any number of Treasures from your hand.
Artifact, Potions have "Choose one: +P; or + $3".

The Potion cost of the Event is a great idea in this contest, you play the Potion repeatedly to compete for the Artifact. But how many Potions does one get so that they should turn into Gold for deck payload? And seeing that this won't be a permanent feature, why not just get Golds? The half-Salvager bit would work for removing the Potion you used to pay for this, if the Cauldron didn't imply you should try to keep it; otherwise it has a few niche uses.
Overall: I feel Cauldron should do something else, but Infusion is good.

It's interesting, because I actually came up with Cauldron first, and Infusion was an attempt to find its companion Event.

• "how many Potions does one get so that they should turn into Gold for deck payload?"

Some of my thinking here was that you would keep getting potions in order to feed this engine payload. If you had 3 potions you could buy a Province (whether you had the Cauldron or not, though if you didn't you may have to trash one of the Potions to get it and find some space to replace it - though instead of the Province you could buy two Potions)

• "And seeing that this won't be a permanent feature..."
The purpose of the "Play any number of Treasures from your hand phrase" was so you could always get the benefit if the Cauldron at least on the turn you took it.

• "...why not just get Golds?"
Well, $4 Potion / Golds are cheaper than $6 Golds

• "...removing the Potion you used to pay for this, if the Cauldron didn't imply you should try to keep it" - I saw this as part of the challenge, that you have to keep burning through a Potions to overload your Potions, so you'd have to make decide whether you trash that Potion or some other $4 card.

So, what do others think?

A couple of ideas I had to change to try and make this better, would be to change the requirement to take the Cauldron from "If it costs $4" to something else. How about "If it's a Treasure"? then you could trash coppers early to get the cauldron, but later you'd have to sacrifice one of your Potions...

Another change could be to make the Potions better than Gold, i.e. +$4.

Lastly, here is the other alternative (rather than the 1/2 Salvager) I had earlier considered and already mentioned:



i.e the Villa variant

This might also need the change to the "if it costs $4" change. And even if it doesn't work here, I'll probably work with it as a different event for some future challenge. :)



Note: In order to post a little more here, I think my new idea is to try to post each challenges' cards)) each week after they're judged. Eventually I'll go back and include past challenges. But I like the idea of getting them out here while they're still fresh and often while we're still waiting for the next challenge.

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« on: October 14, 2019, 11:43:20 pm »
OK, so I haven't had an entry in a several weeks, but I came up with what I hope is an interesting idea for an artifact yesterday, so let's try it out*:

* I'll tweak/add card names / images later, but wanted to get something in sooner in case anyone has any feedback (in particular the Event, as I just tried to think of something quickly that could go with the Artifact)

Cauldron - Artifact
During your turns, Potions are  "Choose one: +1 Potion or +$3."

? - Event - $P
+1 Buy. Trash a card from play. If it costs $4 or more, take the Cauldron. Play any number of treasures.
"Brew"? "Concoct"?

Thanks, those ideas lead me to "Infusion". (Names still might change...)

And I have some images now, with fixed wording for Infusion:



I'd still be curious to hear any feedback, especially on Infusion.

General idea is that Cauldron turns your potions into (optional) $4 Golds. To get the Cauldron you'll have to trash a $4 (or more) card, and look at that, you can trash the potion you just played. Of course, then you lose one of those newly minted $4 golds. Infusion also allows you to play any potions you still have in head that very turn to use on the extra buy it gives you.

I do think Infusion still needs something. I'm considering:

• +$1 for each $2 the trashed card costs. (this would mean with three Potions, you could get a Province)
• +1 Action and return to your Action phase (I could then remove the "play any number of treasures").

Ideally I'd like to make Infusion worth buying even if you already have the Cauldron.

Any thoughts on these or other suggestions for Infusion? (or any better way to phrase Cauldron?)

OK, clearly posted too late to get any feedback before judging, so I'll just go with that first alternative for the contest:



I'd still be open to feedback, either here, or in my dedicated thread.

I'll update my original post with my official entry.

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« on: October 14, 2019, 08:51:56 pm »
OK, so I haven't had an entry in a several weeks, but I came up with what I hope is an interesting idea for an artifact yesterday, so let's try it out*:

* I'll tweak/add card names / images later, but wanted to get something in sooner in case anyone has any feedback (in particular the Event, as I just tried to think of something quickly that could go with the Artifact)

Cauldron - Artifact
During your turns, Potions are  "Choose one: +1 Potion or +$3."

? - Event - $P
+1 Buy. Trash a card from play. If it costs $4 or more, take the Cauldron. Play any number of treasures.
"Brew"? "Concoct"?

Thanks, those ideas lead me to "Infusion". (Names still might change...)

And I have some images now, with fixed wording for Infusion:



I'd still be curious to hear any feedback, especially on Infusion.

General idea is that Cauldron turns your potions into (optional) $4 Golds. To get the Cauldron you'll have to trash a $4 (or more) card, and look at that, you can trash the potion you just played. Of course, then you lose one of those newly minted $4 golds. Infusion also allows you to play any potions you still have in head that very turn to use on the extra buy it gives you.

I do think Infusion still needs something. I'm considering:

• +$1 for each $2 the trashed card costs. (this would mean with three Potions, you could get a Province)
• +1 Action and return to your Action phase (I could then remove the "play any number of treasures").

Ideally I'd like to make Infusion worth buying even if you already have the Cauldron.

Any thoughts on these or other suggestions for Infusion? (or any better way to phrase Cauldron?)

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« on: October 14, 2019, 03:31:20 pm »
OK, so I haven't had an entry in a several weeks, but I came up with what I hope is an interesting idea for an artifact yesterday, so let's try it out:

Official entry version: (after updates)





Original version - kept here for posterity:

Cauldron - Artifact
During your turns, Potions are  "Choose one: +1 Potion or +$3."

Infusion - Event - $P
+1 Buy. Trash a card from play. If it costs $4 or more, take the Cauldron. Play any number of treasures.



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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Dominion 2019 Errata and Rules Tweaks
« on: October 12, 2019, 06:13:20 pm »
To avoid "non-Victory non-Command" on Inheritance, I'm dropping non-Victory, which was just there for the old way Inheritance worked.

So, this means that it's now possible to Inherit an Estate as, for example, a Mill?  What was the reason for the old rule where you couldn't do that?  That's something I never understood and seemed weirdly arbitrary to me, but I'm sure there was probably a good reason that I'm not seeing

Well, before this update, when it gained the abilities and types of the inherited card, it meant that it would also be worth the VP (e.g. an inherited Mill estate would have been worth 2 VP), and I'm assuming the idea was to not allow them to be worth more than their original 1 VP.

Now that it just plays the other card, it would not be worth the additional VP.

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« on: October 09, 2019, 01:20:31 pm »


Not sure about the cost, but here's my entry.

Mining is definitely undercosted. In the opening it effectively turns a 3/4 into a 4/4 + trash 2 Estates. It also allows you to trash Gold from play into Province with the money that Gold gave you, which is probably pretty degenerate. I'd suggest a price of at least $5, but I suspect it might be better off even higher than that.

I mean Mining is a Remodel+ whenever you want it, which means it should at least cost $4 (and probably have a drawback if it's that cheap). You could probably get away with a $5 cost if you change Pick to be non-optional.

One thing to consider with Artifacts that say "When you trash a card", gain X benefit, is that this would apply to cards trashed by Lurker. Maybe it's fine to have that combo, but you could also avoid it with phrasing like "When you trash a card not from Supply".

(I prefer that to something more specific like "When you trash a card from your hand", so it covers cards trashed by Bonfire, Lookout, or Attacks like Knight and Giant)

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Dominion 2019 Errata and Rules Tweaks
« on: October 07, 2019, 04:23:35 pm »
Something that occurred to me - a rule that says something like "when a card is played from the Supply, set it aside and return it to its pile at the end of your action phase" could work very well for avoiding infinite loops.
It doesn't work; people don't remember to return the card. We tested it!

The simplest fix I have right now is for the Band of Misfits family to care about printed cost instead of cost. If Inheritance works on cards with a printed cost of up to $4, you can't Inherit Band of Misfits, and so on.

Instead of leaving it there OR setting it aside, did you try putting them in play (with an additional clause to return to the Supply when discarding), i.e. something like this:

"Play an Action card from the Supply that costs less than this, returning it to the Supply when you would discard it."

I feel like people would be more likely to remember than when setting aside since it would be in your play area (and played on top of the BoM so you don't also just clean it up onto the discard pile).

It would change interactions of course with "trash this, if you do..." cards, but that might be ok. (and if not, that could be weakened with another clause like "If you trash that card this turn, also trash this")

Obviously there'd always be edge cases:
Scheme - I think this may be OK because "when you would discard" would happen before "when you discard"?
Fortress / Bonfire: you could use this to gain a Fortress (in the Overlord case), but with the extra trashing clause, only once.

I'm sure there are others.

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« on: October 07, 2019, 01:39:43 am »

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Stowaway $5
Action - Reserve
+1 Card  +1 Action
+$1 per card on your Tavern Mat.
Put this on your Tavern Mat.
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When another player gains a card, you may call this to gain one card per empty Supply pile that each costs less than the card the other player gained.

I had trouble with this contest. I wanted to make something that really applied mainly in the endgame so it is mainly used for victory points. I decided to track the endgame state via empty supply piles -- it turns out that works well. If someone is in the middle of a pileout, they will have three empty piles and you'll be able to call each of your stowaways for three estates. Or, if someone gains the last province, you can call each of your stowaways for a duchy. You might be able to cause a pile out that your opponent didn't want. In a game with single gains, and your opponent empties a second pile, you can potentially clear out another pile on their turn. This seems to be a strong card.

The +$ gives you money to buy higher cost cards (that other players can then gain cards costing less than it), and also provides a tension between whether to call the stowaways or not.

it took me like four tries to read this and figure out the "costs less than the card the opponent gained" applied to the card you were gaining and not the empty supply pile; I'm not sure how I'd fix that though.

I think just switching the order of the clauses would read clearer:

When another player gains a card, you may call this to gain one card that costs less than the card the other player gained per each empty Supply pile.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Dominion 2019 Errata and Rules Tweaks
« on: October 03, 2019, 11:08:21 am »
In the world described, you don't have a choice. The only Action card in the supply costing less than BoM is Estate, so you have to play BoM as Estate.

I guess it's fortunate that in an Actual Game, people are very unlikely to buy either Band of Misfits or Inheritance if there are no actions costing less than $5.

True, but this could also happen in a game where there are actions costing less then than 5, but their piles have been emptied (as BoM requires the card it plays to be in the Supply).

Still it would at most be two piles (or three for a 5-6 player game), reducing the utility of buying BoM.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Dominion 2019 Errata and Rules Tweaks
« on: September 25, 2019, 04:39:05 pm »
you BoM a TR playing Durations, then Bonfire the Durations. the BoM still stay in play until the Durations finish all effects, right?
Bonfire messes up tracking and has not been fixed (the fix would be adding "non-duration," which still doesn't fix all cases, e.g. you can Bonfire the Throne that played a Duration) (edit: no the fix is what dbclick said, the Improve trick of seeing if the card would be discarded) (or I mean, just limit it to Coppers). If you play a Duration and Bonfire it, you still get the effect. If you Throne a Duration and Bonfire the Duration, the Throne goes away, remember that rule is that it stays out as long as the Duration, and the Duration is gone. But the effect still happens. The effect also still happens if you Bonfire both of them or just the Throne. If you BoM a Throne playing Durations, and Bonfire the Durations, the Throne wouldn't stay out, so BoM doesn't either. Anyway as noted, the Bonfire scenarios where tracking is messed up do not actually happen. We can construct a scenario where you're Bonfiring Hirelings to Graverobber them or whatever, but it's just not a thing.

So, (first noting that this in not a real concern, but only to sate my desire of understanding all edge cases properly), I had thought Bonfiring a TRed Hireling left the TR out:

(from https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1367747/hireling-and-champion-duration-if-losttrashed-play)

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Yes, if you Throne Room etc. a Hireling and somehow the Hireling leaves play, the Throne still stays in play. And if something makes the Throne leave play, that still doesn't stop anything from happening every turn.

Of course that's from 2015, so it's quite likely this was overturned in some other hard to find thread...

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Weekly Design Contest Thread
« on: September 25, 2019, 04:24:59 pm »


 I got really creative this week and took the +1 Action off Seer.

I think this can probably cost .

I think it possibly could too but I put it at $3 because unlike Seer this can draw copies of itself that it reveals. I think that kind of self synergy makes $3 a reasonable price. I don't think it should affect the judging much anyway, it isn't a huge difference.

Am I missing something or does this, as worded, not do anything with the named card type?

What are you talking about? It never said that! It's definitely not something left over from the previous version that I forgot to delete when I changed it...

I think I may have to add that to all my future cards  :o:

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Verbose Village - $3

+1 Cards
+2 Action.

Name a card type.

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