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Forum Games / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - 6 spots left!!
« on: August 10, 2022, 04:20:43 am »
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Forum Games / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia
« on: August 10, 2022, 04:20:29 am »
If a jailkeeper targets a strongman, does the strongman kill go through? Because usually a strongman can break 1 level of protection, but if the strongman is the only other action in the game, what would the jailkeeper be preventing from happening?

If the JK targets the Strongman *while they still have Strongman* then yes - the shot will go through.

The purpose of the strongman is balance vs recruitment of the traitor.
Makes sense

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Forum Games / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia
« on: August 08, 2022, 07:10:35 pm »
If a jailkeeper targets a strongman, does the strongman kill go through? Because usually a strongman can break 1 level of protection, but if the strongman is the only other action in the game, what would the jailkeeper be preventing from happening?

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No reason to post when the exile's going through.
Under that logic, people don't need to post all game, and we can just randomly exile people and hope

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7 minutes to go, looks like Jack exile is happening

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Killing a VT isn't the worst thing in the world, at least it's not a town PR

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Not convinced in any way that Didds is bad, and the wagon for it seems kinda scummy

It's ~2 hrs until the deadline and I don't expect to be around again. So I'll:
Vote: Jack
L-1

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8.5 hours now
I will Vote: math as they're the person I'm least convinced about

Would be good to hear a claim from Jack, as they look the most likely to be exiled currently. Right now, Jack exile seems okay to me, as they're not on my towny list

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Unfortunately, there's not anyone that I think is really scummy right now, which is why I'm having a hard time pinning down a vote (and the fact I've not been feeling too great isn't helping either)

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Joseph, gimme your thoughts on EFHW.

Please.

Thanks!
I usually think EFHW is scum (partly because she is quite a lot), but this game I'm leaning towards them being town, at least for now

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Or like, nobody say anything. That sounds fun too
Not been feeling great. And was asleep in the 4 hours between your posts

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Has it been useful for actually finding scum?
Has anything I've ever done been useful for finding scum?
Though I think joth may be scummy, I can see that's not going to get enough votes today

PPE: 1

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Seems like joth wants to focus on this to try and just get some mis-exiles

I think scum is far more likely to make this argument than Town.

Vote: Joseph
I've made this argument many times before. And I'm (almost) always town

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Jack is such an easy mislynch. All the points about him struggling for something to say always apply to him.

The joth wagon has gotten too popular. unvote
I'm still not convinced joth is towny, but whatever. If he's not the best exile option for today, then we need to find someone else
I don't think I've played with Jack before, is this more like a town or scum! Jack?

Is what more like Town or scum Jack? Are you literally asking to be provided with an excuse to vote?
Nope, I'm trying to get people's opinions on someone I haven't played with. Because I've not seen enough content to make me think either way about them

Trying to consider all the people with recent votes, as we have to exile someone

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Jack is such an easy mislynch. All the points about him struggling for something to say always apply to him.

The joth wagon has gotten too popular. unvote
I'm still not convinced joth is towny, but whatever. If he's not the best exile option for today, then we need to find someone else
I don't think I've played with Jack before, is this more like a town or scum! Jack?

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Fixing quote fail: So are you lurking?

Nope! But Jack, mathdude, and now Shraeye all voting for me.  It just struck me as funny.
But the real question is: are you town?

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Note for the record, that I pointed out faust playing out of character and Joseph rushed to his defense.

Also scum has daytalk.

vote: Joseph2302
Are you suggesting that in the 4.5 minutes between your post and Joseph's, Joseph and I coordinated that they should defend me?

It's entirely possible he took the initiative to defend you without coordination. Either way, it pinged me a little.
But Joseph made a good point that was missing from the discussion. It doesn't look like defending faust to me.
EFHW defending Joseph's stellar defense of Faust, but joth doesn't vote her for it???

vote: joth

Someone should definitely vote for shraeye here for the obvious defense of EFHW's defense of Joseph's defense of faust. I mean, it's pretty obviously a scum move.
Obviously, duh
Seems like joth wants to focus on this to try and just get some mis-exiles

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Vote: joth

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Note for the record, that I pointed out faust playing out of character and Joseph rushed to his defense.

Also scum has daytalk.

vote: Joseph2302
Are you suggesting that in the 4.5 minutes between your post and Joseph's, Joseph and I coordinated that they should defend me?

It's entirely possible he took the initiative to defend you without coordination. Either way, it pinged me a little.
But Joseph made a good point that was missing from the discussion. It doesn't look like defending faust to me.
EFHW defending Joseph's stellar defense of Faust, but joth doesn't vote her for it???

vote: joth

Someone should definitely vote for shraeye here for the obvious defense of EFHW's defense of Joseph's defense of faust. I mean, it's pretty obviously a scum move.
Obviously, duh

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It must've been ash that was against them, then. He's one of the people that would make an impression with their opinion.

So 1/3rd of town is a bad exile, and 1/4th of players are probably willing to claim PR to get away with being D1'd? So about half the players are "bad exiles", quote unquote? And half of those players are good exiles...

I think this means we shouldn't be scared of outing people D1.


Well, that was a good topic, faust. I was thinking this game needed some setup talk, but wasn't quite sure how to start it.

Vote: math again. Hey, post some more!

Also, joth is town.
Yep, let's all mass claim, that seems sensible....

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Remember, scum daychat is in discord now, which kind of changes a lot about expectations. Many people have their discords set up to give them notifications that they can get on their phones and on their computers. A scary amount of coordination is now possible.
For the record, I don't have Discord set up this way, as I don't need Discord notifications for everything

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Note for the record, that I pointed out faust playing out of character and Joseph rushed to his defense.

Also scum has daytalk.

vote: Joseph2302
Are you suggesting that in the 4.5 minutes between your post and Joseph's, Joseph and I coordinated that they should defend me?
Obviously people have overly high expectations of my game play ability. Also, not necessarily defending faust, just pointing out that it does make a vig better if they have info

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I think there was so long between signup and launch that we all forgot it was an open setup.

This setup looks really annoying -- we basically don't get night flips. So even if exile weren't mandatory, I would be strongly advocating against no exile because exiles are our only source of information.

But we absolutely need to allow claims because exiling a town PR is just extra awful.

This is a weird take from faust, who IIRC believes that vigilantes are negative utility.
Well in this setup, I believe the vig has information on who they have killed, and they'd be the only person who could tell town this info? Which makes them more useful than normal (although I still don't think the vig should just start random crap shooting like they often do in games)

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Is everyone else voting one of their scumreads?

How does one obtain such a thing at this point in the game?
Just take a guess on who you think is scummy

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I'm busy most of today, will try and contribute more tomorrow (assuming anything much has happened by then)

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