Cool cool. Anybody else feel like this Ash plan was kinda bad?
Nope! I'm not saying it was necessarily the optimal play there, but I like it because it's based on legitimate mod-mediated PR usage.
I looked at Meadow and hypercube's entry. You're both right. It's very similar to both of them.
It's based on a card idea called Jungle that I came up with 2 years ago and posted on Reddit (The thread still exists, but the card is deleted.) I don't know what else to say. Sorry?
Lots of points for cheap, but clogs up your next hand and even your whole deck.
Kind of similar to my Meadow, except that one gains an Estate instead of putting the Duchy on your deck (and is slightly more flexible with alt-VP). Not complaining, just, uh, informing.
My vote for cube is actually based on what looked to me at the time like a very suspicious vote for me. It seemed like she was trying to deflect the case on her that was obviously building, what with e promising a great case on cube.
That case turned out to be underwhelming though.
E is feeling very pro-town to me partially because she’s been defending me and my wagon looks to me like it would be the easiest one for scum to push, since I’ve admittedly said some scummy things. But I admit that logic is only useful if you know I’m town, and at this point only I know that.
oh it is good, it felt like people stopped discussing it. Interesting that the votes stayed.
It actually started from him making a scummy vote for joth
Space's explanation of the value of Mcmc lynch is Super Town
DatSwan comes out of it looking a little more jumpy and defensive, which is often how I feel early on as scum, so for now, vote: DatSwan
The hypercube case:
1) he had the whole "I read the setup and noticed a hated/loved mechanic of some sort likely exists" post
2) then has the "if I were scum I wouldn't have pointed it out" post
3) the other wagons are all bad
And there you have it. Best of the best for D1 cases
I didn’t like something here. Not sure what.
Contents-wise, point 2 could be a thing. Depends on how noobish said player is, if scum discussed N0, and if scum has a player that is affected. Especially with the last possibility, pointing it out via voting rule gets you town points plus protects scum who would be affected.
This wagon is me pretty obviously being pushed by hypercube to derail the wagon on her.
vote: hypercube
I was already leaning that direction anyway and now it’s looking like classic misdirection.
Still suspicious of ashersky though.
2) people who state they are waiting for said plan are attempting to be artificially townie, and thus are scummy
I can buy into this. vote: Glooble
All I said was “I’m eager to hear this plan”. Nothing about waiting for it. I then proceeded to make an unrelated vote in the same post.
2) people who state they are waiting for said plan are attempting to be artificially townie, and thus are scummy
Now that I think about it, how is Cardsharp NOT strictly worse than Militia? If you discard down to three cards in hand, it's essentially a Militia that gives your opponent a Silver, which is already strictly worse than Militia, but the opponent has more choices than just discarding down to three, so it's worse still than that.
The hypercube case:
1) he had the whole "I read the setup and noticed a hated/loved mechanic of some sort likely exists" post
2) then has the "if I were scum I wouldn't have pointed it out" post
3) the other wagons are all bad
And there you have it. Best of the best for D1 cases
The Datswan/Awaclus thing is totally null as far as town/scum reads for either of them.
2) It doesn't matter what you think, it matters what mail-mi thinks about himself and what I think about myself.
Also I should clarify, when I said “I agree” I meant I agree that mail-mi is seeming townie. Not that I was being scummy! I of course was and am being extremely pro-town.
Vote: Jotheonah
This felt like pouncing on mail-mi for something that might very well be wrong but was not especially likely to come from scum. (Town needs no help tricking itself into mass claiming.)
When does scum ever actually do this? Scum doesn't need to pounce at this juncture. Scum just needs to wait for a good-looking town wagon and slide onboard.
Well, scum wants to look like they're.scumhunting.
vote: joth
vote: hypercube
This is exactly the position scum wants to be on the wagon. Voting for someone who already has votes, and turning a couple votes into an actual wagon
I know that didn't make much sense, I'm having a hard time putting my thoughts into words. I hope you (meaning the general populus)understands what I'm trying to say
What do people think of this post from mail-mi? Specifically, responding to a vote on himself by voting for the person who's voting for him?
To me it kind of reinforces my scumread, though I can't quite say why.
Like I actually don't think the point he's making is bad. But it's a really interesting way to respond to a vote on him and an immediate wagon on the person who voted for him.
