I did finally figure it out, and the solution was indeed a zen style "baba is you and baba is win" or something like that.
Some levels just don't let you move the win or you block around that freely, that's the thing I guess.
I uploaded a level a few days ago: KR6-474-PPF (ignore the silly name and description). It's a pretty short SMB1 platforming level (3 sections, each about ~10 seconds long), which I think looks pretty cool when done correctly, but I'm worried it's not clear what you're supposed to do in some places. I tried putting coins and arrows everywhere, but not sure how much they really help...
Finally uploaded my level!
99W-9HX-MJG
Uploading a red coin level is hard! While other players get to save after each room; I had to beat all rooms in a row without dying; 3 separate times! And the third time took me about 15 time more tries than the first 2 times. Probably just nerves.
Anyway, hope people out there with MM2 give it a try! It’s pretty difficult; probably in the easier half of super expert.
A whole lot of deaths, but finally finished. I felt like I learned the mechanic to each room fairly quickly, just kind of wish Bowser took fewer hits. The repitition to finally get the hang of executing the mechanic started to feel slightly tedious after several deaths knowing exactly what I needed to do. Still, fun levels!
Also, if you can win with just "flag is win; baba is you" with some weird tautology isn't every level beatable with whatever strategy beats that??
Ah. Is there any way to play rated games with just the base deck?
Did I miss something; is there an announced planned third edition? Or is this just hypothetical talk?There isn't even a "2nd edition" except for Dominion and Intrigue; in places like these forums we have been calling the new-layout versions 2nd editions to distinguish them.
Jay decided to fix the layout of all expansions personally, due to subtle things and sometimes invisible things. It all started with the $3 on Courtier being wrong as reported by Ben King. Things will be more consistent now, and there will still lots of tiny things to fix; a go-to example, the black line below the banner of some Seaside cards e.g. Pearl Diver. He has already done Intrigue, Seaside, and Prosperity; I don't have a date for Intrigue or Seaside (since Prosperity is what people have asked about) but would guess it's mid-July, same as for Prosperity (and of course Intrigue will have a new cover).
So, when he's doing Dark Ages, well, it's an opportunity to fix Band of Misfits.
For Renaissance:You can always choose an option you can’t do (see torturer). I would reword it like this:
Dunner
$5 Action - Attack
+2 coffers
Each opponent chooses one:
-1 villager; -1 coffer; gain a curse.
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Set up: Each player gets +1 villager
(You can't choose -1 villager if you don't have any villager)
Each other player who has any Villagers or Coffers loses either a Villager or a Coffers, their choice.
Each other player who doesn’t gains a Curse.
For Seaside of course. I ended up designing a card for every expansion (some much more successfully than others) and this was my favourite. I like trying to get more uses in for the mats and tokens in Seaside and this doesn't seem too messed up with Native Village? I think it's okay that this puts face-up cards on your mat?
". So this feels much more like a Monument variant most of the time.
I like Band of Misfits literally turning into the card, rules weirdness be damned.You mean to scan it? I can try to scan it for you.
(I also don't really want to buy Dark Ages 3rd Edition for one changed card)
The rules problems are just too bad. Again there is a situation in which you can play a card and not know what it does. http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=18598.0
As I continue to think I'll end up errata-ing the cards [...]Out of interest, are you also considering errata-ing Trader to use the "exchange" mechanic?
Now that I think about it, Undead Witch is actually in a way worse than Ambassador since the trashing and junking are limited to Curses. The only way it's better is that you don't have to trash a Curse to give them out.
Ambassador requires you to have the Curses on your hand. Undead Witch generates them herself.
The harder answer doesn't sound accurate... the first time Throne plays it, it only played a BoM, it didn't play a Duration card. BoM was then played as a Duration, but it was played by BoM's "play a card" instructions, not by Throne Room's "play a card" instructions. The second time Throne Room plays the card is the only time Throne Room plays a Duration.The text on BoM acts like it's a duration right when you play it.
But as usual, I continue to think, I should errata BoM / Overlord / Inheritance to work like Necromancer.
If Throne Room plays Band of Misfits becoming an Amulet (or any other eligabe Duration-Action), will the Throne Room stay out for the next turn?The easy answer is that, the second time Throne plays the card, it's a Duration, so of course Throne stays out. The harder answer is, the first time Throne plays it, BoM was played as a Duration card, so Throne should stay out.
I assume the answer for Overlord instead of Band of Misfits would be the same.
Greedy Witch
cost $2+ - Action - Attack
+$2
Use a coin token so that each other player gains a Curse.
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When you buy this, if you didn't use a coin token, you may overpay for this. For each $1 you overpaid, take a coin token.
Guilds. Coin token and overpay.
Room 1 got a lot easier when I realized I could see the shell up top and time my jumps to when it went to the right. I also duck jumped to make my jumps last longer.
I did a spin jump facing forward, which auto hit bowser each time. But yes, untiming myself from the spring sound to the shell visual was key.
Finally uploaded my level!
99W-9HX-MJG
Uploading a red coin level is hard! While other players get to save after each room; I had to beat all rooms in a row without dying; 3 separate times! And the third time took me about 15 time more tries than the first 2 times. Probably just nerves.
Anyway, hope people out there with MM2 give it a try! It’s pretty difficult; probably in the easier half of super expert.
Just played it, overall really liked it. I appreciate red coin levels in general, because frequent checkpoints generally make levels more fun, and show that the designer is more committed to making the level fun than hard.
I found rooms 3 and 4 to be by far the easiest, with room 2 being in the middle (but relatively easy), and 1 and 5 significantly harder than the rest, especially 1. In fact, I'm guessing 60-70% of my deaths were on room 1, and most of those deaths were spent just trying to get to the platform and start getting into the rhythm of it. Once you get going it's not too bad, though you have to keep it going for quite a while until Bowser dies.
I found it pretty clear what I was supposed to do in every room. I've never heard the term "bomb slide", but I just did what it looked like I was supposed to do and rode the bob-omb to the other side of the room, then spin jumped down to kick a bomb over and pop back up every time a bob-omb came close enough to jump onto it. I agree it would have been better to put a Z track at the beginning, but I think it's pretty clear what to do there anyway.
Rooms 4 and 5 took a few tries before I understood what I was doing, but that's completely reasonable, especially since it's a red coin level so you're not punished for not figuring it out right away. In room 5 I was never sure how many times I was supposed to hit Bowser before running around the loop; I ended up hitting him 3 times each cycle, I'm not sure if you were intended to do more or fewer or if there was an intended strat. The other thing about that room is it became significantly easier once I realized the fire bar didn't extend up to the furthest muncher, so after you jump over the middle muncher, you can take your time with the last jump.
It's amazing to me that you can't do things like toggle Bowser's fire on or off, or adjust how many hits it takes to kill him. It was obvious playing your level that you had to design around that, which is why it tends to be hard to make good boss fights. I'm also baffled that there is still no pause menu option to kill yourself, nor did they do anything about key deaths apparently? That's actually pretty ridiculous, those would be completely trivial problems to fix, but they somehow seem completely oblivious...
I uploaded a level a few days ago: KR6-474-PPF (ignore the silly name and description). It's a pretty short SMB1 platforming level (3 sections, each about ~10 seconds long), which I think looks pretty cool when done correctly, but I'm worried it's not clear what you're supposed to do in some places. I tried putting coins and arrows everywhere, but not sure how much they really help...
Did you at least find it relatively clear what you were supposed to do in each section? That was my concern, that something that was obvious to me would appear confusing to someone else. I mean, if you've never seen a bomb slide before you're probably just screwed, but my level isn't intended for that level of player.
All of the sections were pretty clear to me except for the bomb one, but I figured it out. It did take me a few deaths before I realized what to do.
I would call it a Cursed token rather than Cursing. Cursing makes it sound like it gives other players curses rather than cursing yourself.
I was able to beat two out of the five rooms (#2 and #4 I believe), but then gave up. It's a challenge for sure.
That's not a genuine edge case. You may decide you'll never trash Mining Village, in which case it is identical in behaviour to regular Village. It's better unless you somehow deem worthless the option to decide otherwise.
To take an extreme and pared-down analogy: I give person A a dollar. I give person B a dollar plus the option to toss a coin for double or quits. What I've given person B is better.
