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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 18, 2020, 08:12:19 pm »
And I REALLY want to know what Ari thinks about his possibly being redirected to Galz, possibly to raerae, possibly to both, or neither.

If I was redirected, itís most likely irrelevant. Iíll gladly claim and say what I did if the town demands it, but for now Iím not seeing a benefit.
But the redirections presumably went to raerae who is definitely a person of interest, or possibly to galz, who is also definitely a person of interest.  So, did you kill galz? Did you track/cop/neighborize raerae? Did you fruit-vend?  Did you learn anything, do anything, or have something that can help corroborate??

A lot of people are accusing a lot of people about lying, I'm struggling to see the list of things not worth mentioning in this scenario.  I mean, it's your role, but you seem to not be super interested in weighing in on an issue that you might very well be able to clarify.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 18, 2020, 06:33:34 pm »
See, redirecting scum onto scum requires a) that we know scum and b) that scum don't have a redirector that can break the "loop" or something that works around redirects.

And if we know a) then just lynch the baddies and win...don't try to build a crazy possibly-non-functional and at worst scum-manipulable machine.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 18, 2020, 06:24:48 pm »
That said, if we decide that lynching town is fun, Iím a good one. We wonít miss another redirector.

am i the only one in this game who sees redirectors as increasing in value the more we have?
I hear what you're saying, but disagree wholeheartedly with the conclusion

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 18, 2020, 04:17:40 pm »
I did nothing of note last night, unfortunately. Iíll let yíall know if any future events make whatever I did last night relevant.
I think we might be at that point, man.  you are no longer "not involved"

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 18, 2020, 04:13:42 pm »
And I REALLY want to know what Ari thinks about his possibly being redirected to Galz, possibly to raerae, possibly to both, or neither.


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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 18, 2020, 04:10:59 pm »
Hhhmm...Joseph looking at me makes me find me guilty, but thatís just me. And Joseph, you didnít ďlet meĒ claim. Initially we werenít sharing targets. I disclosed those when it was appropriate.

Iím town. My best evidence is that I had ZERO reason to claim when I did, other than the fact that I thought we might he in a many-redirector scenario and that it would help us to start sorting that out. Thereís no reason to do that if Iím scum. Since at least two more redirector are now in the mix, I think it was helpful for town. If, in fact, raeraeís result is on Ari instead of cayvie, then my initiation of this conversation is substantially helpful.

That said, if we decide that lynching town is fun, Iím a good one. We wonít miss another redirector.
For what it's worth, I agree that WCD is town

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 17, 2020, 12:59:46 pm »

Iíve been thinking about the people who arenít involved the festival of redirection. Glooble, pubby, and LL laying real low. Shraeye somewhat less so. Are they just watching us eat our own tail?
I'm saying "there is no way all the redirectors are town", and you're sitting there townreading anybody/everybody who claims redirector. You could start by not doing that.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 16, 2020, 06:11:01 pm »
so i remember like 3-4 instances of "lynch me but i won't claim" in Mafia games, usually by self-hammering ashersky and in every case he was town. why would scum!rae not claim? I believe her here.

but i also believe cayvie to be town, can't really explain

let's try vote: Joseph for a change

I think scum!raerae doesn't know of a fakeclaim that explains her behavior. That's my read, take it or leave it, I wouldn't give her a chance to discuss with her scummates over night.

Joseph? Eh.

So I'm clever enough to fakeclaim a result but not clever enough to have considered being counterclaimed.

Vote: MiX because that's just offensive and stupid

"that's just offensive and stupid" is every word we address to each other.

But you're right...you had something in mind when you said what you did. Which means...I need to reread this day.

Vote: cayvie or something, I lost track. Also, claiming to have redirected the person that voted on you with no explanation before they explained isn't towny foresight, it's just null.

PPE: You think there's not those many redirectors, or that scum would claim them?
Specifically, I think scum can redirect, and when they saw Awaclus's flip they were super excited that they now could legitimately claim redirector and not immediately be called out as scum.  I think the fact that there are so many backs up my hunch.  You think there are 5 Town Redirectors?

I only see four. Awa, me, wcd, joseph
I'm reading in between some lines

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 16, 2020, 04:51:12 pm »
so i remember like 3-4 instances of "lynch me but i won't claim" in Mafia games, usually by self-hammering ashersky and in every case he was town. why would scum!rae not claim? I believe her here.

but i also believe cayvie to be town, can't really explain

let's try vote: Joseph for a change

I think scum!raerae doesn't know of a fakeclaim that explains her behavior. That's my read, take it or leave it, I wouldn't give her a chance to discuss with her scummates over night.

Joseph? Eh.

So I'm clever enough to fakeclaim a result but not clever enough to have considered being counterclaimed.

Vote: MiX because that's just offensive and stupid

"that's just offensive and stupid" is every word we address to each other.

But you're right...you had something in mind when you said what you did. Which means...I need to reread this day.

Vote: cayvie or something, I lost track. Also, claiming to have redirected the person that voted on you with no explanation before they explained isn't towny foresight, it's just null.

PPE: You think there's not those many redirectors, or that scum would claim them?
Specifically, I think scum can redirect, and when they saw Awaclus's flip they were super excited that they now could legitimately claim redirector and not immediately be called out as scum.  I think the fact that there are so many backs up my hunch.  You think there are 5 Town Redirectors?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 16, 2020, 04:21:20 pm »
I think there are plenty of redirectors. I think that we're most likely to find scum lynching from that pool

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 16, 2020, 04:08:31 pm »
so i remember like 3-4 instances of "lynch me but i won't claim" in Mafia games, usually by self-hammering ashersky and in every case he was town. why would scum!rae not claim? I believe her here.

but i also believe cayvie to be town, can't really explain

let's try vote: Joseph for a change
I'm down for that,
Vote: Joseph


are you buddying me? tell me honestly, i can't take another heartbreak
It can't be scummy is I'm not scum.

But really, I'm working hard to ranke the redirectors, and when people started piling on raerae, her stock went up.  Joseph's had gone down a lot, and I was already thinking of voting him

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 16, 2020, 04:01:19 pm »
so i remember like 3-4 instances of "lynch me but i won't claim" in Mafia games, usually by self-hammering ashersky and in every case he was town. why would scum!rae not claim? I believe her here.

but i also believe cayvie to be town, can't really explain

let's try vote: Joseph for a change
I'm down for that,
Vote: Joseph

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 16, 2020, 04:00:26 pm »
Unvote

So who's voting raerae because they think she's scum, and who's voting raerae because they're mad she won't claim??
And what did the wagon look like at is peak? I'm on phone, so that crap is impossible too track

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 16, 2020, 03:44:58 pm »
Unvote

So who's voting raerae because they think she's scum, and who's voting raerae because they're mad she won't claim??

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 16, 2020, 03:15:10 pm »
Still standing by my position that there's scum in one of cayvie/raerae. Basically it's whoever is lying.

BUT if they're both town then ari seems next up. But to me ari's posts have been slightly more believable than either of cayvie/raerae so I'd rather not lynch him first.

vote: raerae but will gladly change my vote back to cayvie
Whats believable about Ari, I'm not seeing what you're seeing

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 16, 2020, 03:10:52 pm »
Wait, redirectors target both of their picks? I didn't expect that.

this post gives MiX townpoints btw

Iím also incredibly confused. After I have a handle on what the heck is going on Iíll say some more definitive stuff.

any questions you have that i/we can answer for you?
Does it really give him townpoints??

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 16, 2020, 03:08:00 pm »
people who have played with MiX before: is this typical of how he plays? i feel like with glooble d1, and now with raerae, i suspect someone, and then there MiX is, being all "hey, calm down, stop acting so scummy".

is that normal MiX?
Yeah, normal

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 16, 2020, 03:07:25 pm »
If people are split on believing one of us, I'm perfectly happy with an ari lunch.
I'm mostly fine with either

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 15, 2020, 12:40:16 pm »
I think I hear what lalight means, though I'm not who he's talking about.

My third theory is better.

We should definitely look for baddies (yes, multiple) in {Didds, Joseph, cayvir, raerae}

what about ari?
He could be in there, not known

oh i think i know your theory i guess. nice
Yeah, I think we're reading each other's minds (maybe?). Love it :)

Do you think Ari is bad?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 15, 2020, 12:33:54 pm »
I think I hear what lalight means, though I'm not who he's talking about.

My third theory is better.

We should definitely look for baddies (yes, multiple) in {Didds, Joseph, cayvir, raerae}

what about ari?
He could be in there, not known

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 15, 2020, 12:21:08 pm »
I think I hear what lalight means, though I'm not who he's talking about.

My third theory is better.

We should definitely look for baddies (yes, multiple) in {Didds, Joseph, cayvir, raerae}


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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 15, 2020, 12:02:16 pm »
I have like 2.5 theories, raerae vote is best in the first two theories, but I just started brewing the third that I might like even better

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 15, 2020, 11:36:15 am »
Hey folks, cayvie made the kill. Unless somebody redirected cayvie this is a thing I know to be true.
I doubt it.

Vote: raerae

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 15, 2020, 11:29:18 am »
Also, I've only done like 4 ISOs so far (well I did on Galzria and Awaclus too, horray), and I'll resume tomorrow.

For now, I think the best non-Glooble thing is how

Vote: Joseph planted his vote on Awaclus for pressure and never said anything again.
Maybe you've already responded, but if you haven't...what do you think of Joseph's response?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« on: February 15, 2020, 11:25:39 am »
That's correct, I just ISO'd him.

Consider my D1-softclaim-pass on Glooble revoked. Mostly cause it's not D1.

Wanna share anything Glooble?

ah ok if you're revoking your softclaim, that removes my biggest hesitation for voting glooble anyhow
This is either the best joke or the most misguided reasoning

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