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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 02:38:51 pm »

I'm so suspicious of everyone on this wagon, because I literally just could not see the case at all. I think we 100% exile on the gkrieg wagon tomorrow. There is no way that wagon isn't riddled with scum. Gonna say 2/3.

The wagon is trash and once again scum is always in math/joth. They dodged the exile today for no reason.

You understand that you were on the wagon right?

Only because you didn't vote math or joth.

I was the last person to leave the math wagon. This is just the dumbest reason so far.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 02:37:35 pm »

Next time I will just not come back into the thread to engage.

If this is scum-driven then does that make a difference?

Maybe if all three scum are on, but otherwise not really.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 02:02:08 pm »

I'm so suspicious of everyone on this wagon, because I literally just could not see the case at all. I think we 100% exile on the gkrieg wagon tomorrow. There is no way that wagon isn't riddled with scum. Gonna say 2/3.

The wagon is trash and once again scum is always in math/joth. They dodged the exile today for no reason.

You understand that you were on the wagon right?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 02:00:38 pm »

It is more likely that my wagon is riddled with scum.

But that would mean that only town exiled me, which would just be so much worse.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 01:52:55 pm »

I actually think that faust is also likely town, and just adding to his horrible track record of reading me incorrectly.

Lol this comes from the dude who tried ot start a last-minute wagon on me.

Seemed like the only thing that could get traction, and you somehow will escape any scrutiny for misexiling me once again as town.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 01:51:54 pm »

I'm town, but I'm just happy this is over. Biggest waste of time.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 01:44:32 pm »

vote: Didds

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 01:33:31 pm »

hammer hammer hammer

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 01:20:58 pm »

Oops, forgot about Swowl.

Swowl takes the first alternate position, Jimmmm gets moved to second alternate, e gets moved off the team.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 01:20:30 pm »

Oops, forgot about Swowl.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 01:19:30 pm »

FWIW, joth seems townie to me. He is not doing any of the things people have said that scum!joth do (fade into the background, interact with people without actually making reads).

Math is still very scummy to me. He keeps posting things for other people to analyze, trying to look townie without actually pushing people.

EFHW is probably town here, she is fading into the background and will likely be left alive at the end of the game and will make the correct decision for town.

iguana is also town. His reads are not good and he is being very stubborn about them.

MiX may be scum. He hasn't really been pushed very much, and has weirdly been in the background. His responses to people have been much more terse than usual I think.

I actually think that faust is also likely town, and just adding to his horrible track record of reading me incorrectly.

Didds is also another person I would look toward as scum. Not exactly sure why.

e is playing very differently from the last game I was in with him. Not sure about him yet.

Jimmmm could also be scum.

My random called-on-D1-basically scum team is Didds/math/MiX, with Jimmmmmm as first alternate and e as second alternate. Faust could also be scum, but I'm not sure yet.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 01:12:09 pm »

I quoted the wrong Joth post there. I meant to quote him saying Swowl has been active D2.

I don't know if I would vote Swowl. faust made sure that was not a viable wagon today. I don't think I like voting Swowl when faust is saying that it's a bad choice. That could definitely change with my opinion of faust though.

You really think that faust's reads are that good that you form your opinions based on his reads? And you are that sure about him being town?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 01:06:51 pm »

Considering that Joth may be scum is one of the things that makes me feel good about a gkrieg exile today because I do think they could be partners. In that, if Joth is scum, his partners would have been much more likely to be on the math wagon yesterday. And we would also be looking for someone who continued to push Math over Joth the following day. And gkrieg is the main person who fits that description.

Exiling someone because you think another non-flipped person is scummy is also not a great reason.

yeah I'm sorry I think my defense of you may have done more harm than good. to both of us.

Swowl has the lowest # of posts in the thread, I just checked.

So now you'll vote for him right?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 12:58:29 pm »

Next time I will just not come back into the thread to engage.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 12:58:02 pm »

Didds, please do the honors.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 12:55:24 pm »

Finally at a computer and able to look at the game carefully. It looks like gkrieg is about to be hammered?

Ugh, I just posted something long in relation to this post and then closed the window... stupid PPEs.

Anyway, it is easy for someone to change their reads. Everyone posts townie and scummy things, so you just cherrypick one of their posts and say it has changed your reads. Especially when there haven't been many flips.

At that point, math still hadn't done anything that screamed town to me, and a vote on someone is better than no vote.

Okay, so I see here you actually did respond to my read of you, actually you did twice now because I called you out for not doing that. But to me, the issue is--yes it's easy to fake changing your reads, but also it's even easier to fake keeping your reads the same when you don't even give reasons for any of those reads. And that was your D2 up to the point that you got pressure on you.

It's absurd for you in a way to be arguing that all of the cases against you are so flimsy. The cases on you are based on very little because you said very little until you had four votes on you. But that in itself is scummy.

My read on EFHW has changed. You are taking only my read on mathdude as not changing.

What do you think about any of my recent posts? Do they not matter?

I think they matter less unfortunately because they were written under pressure and I think you can create something convincing under pressure when necessary. I also didn't see anything in there that surprised me or caused me to re-assess my opinion on how you are seeing things this game.

So next time I'm not engaged in a game and have a wagon on me, I just shouldn't try to post anything because it has no chance of changing people's minds because it was written under pressure?

Cool. What a colossal waste of my time.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 12:49:35 pm »

Considering that Joth may be scum is one of the things that makes me feel good about a gkrieg exile today because I do think they could be partners. In that, if Joth is scum, his partners would have been much more likely to be on the math wagon yesterday. And we would also be looking for someone who continued to push Math over Joth the following day. And gkrieg is the main person who fits that description.

Exiling someone because you think another non-flipped person is scummy is also not a great reason.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 12:48:28 pm »

Finally at a computer and able to look at the game carefully. It looks like gkrieg is about to be hammered?

Ugh, I just posted something long in relation to this post and then closed the window... stupid PPEs.

Anyway, it is easy for someone to change their reads. Everyone posts townie and scummy things, so you just cherrypick one of their posts and say it has changed your reads. Especially when there haven't been many flips.

At that point, math still hadn't done anything that screamed town to me, and a vote on someone is better than no vote.

Okay, so I see here you actually did respond to my read of you, actually you did twice now because I called you out for not doing that. But to me, the issue is--yes it's easy to fake changing your reads, but also it's even easier to fake keeping your reads the same when you don't even give reasons for any of those reads. And that was your D2 up to the point that you got pressure on you.

It's absurd for you in a way to be arguing that all of the cases against you are so flimsy. The cases on you are based on very little because you said very little until you had four votes on you. But that in itself is scummy.

My read on EFHW has changed. You are taking only my read on mathdude as not changing.

What do you think about any of my recent posts? Do they not matter?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 11:32:31 am »

Just saw Didds intent. I’m VT

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 11:29:38 am »

It seems joth has a lot more strong opinions about others than I remember others having about him.  I feel it's better to get a read on joth once we get a flip or two (from people he's commented about), rather than flipping him to try and use that to get reads on others.  If he's scum, it will come out soon, whether one of his strong townreads flips scum, or something else.  gkrieg has more people having opinions about him.  They both have made posts that can very easily fit the scum narrative, but I'd rather keep my vote on gkrieg.

But wasn’t your post on me self preservation? Which isn’t necessary anymore?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 11:28:48 am »

vote: faust

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 01:32:57 am »

Vote: gkrieg

I spent my mafia time today looking at comments that faust made on a setup I am trying to open, then came to check the thread. That was a mistake because there is a lot in here that I should respond to and now don't really have time to. I was hoping to do a read through of Swowl, gkrieg, faust, Joth, EFHW, and Math.

That is obviously not going to happen and starting tomorrow I'll be gone for two days. However, I'll be back before deadline and hopefully can do some of that work then.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 01:30:07 am »

I'm turning out to basically not have time to play today. Girieg said something like there is no case on him, but when he quoted my case on him he quoted only the part where I voted and ignored my actual reread of him where I gave reasons and didn't respond to any of that.

So I am happy to still be voting gkrieg.

People are saying something about WCD being scum and us being buddies and that does not make sense to me at all.

I’m not sure what part of your voting post I omitted when quoting it.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 27, 2021, 01:27:18 am »

Okay, Gkrieg reread is the only one I have time for since it's going to be so short:

So his first several posts are meta-related. In a way that just reflects where we were at that stage of the game, but it's also worth noting that it's incredibly easy for scum to give that type of participation and nothing more.

so anyway faust is town & Didds is town & MiX is but he's being pleasant and helpful.

idk, nobody's pinging me overmuch, which makes sense because none of you are terrible at this game.

Vote: EFHW

Wait a minute - are you salty too?

Because there can't be anything in the current game that is scummy.

This doesn't seem like scum!EFHW. Too bold.

To me, this seems potentially scummy. Partially because I am scumreading EFHW but also because it doesn't strike me as a particularly bold post that you could form a townread off of that. It does look like gkrieg and EFHW could be partners.

Still haven’t reread. I have just been reading things while I have time. Nothing has convinced me that mathdude is not scum yet.

Vote: mathdude

This is basically gkrieg's only contribution to D2. Just want to say, it is hard to fake changing your reads. Especially so if you are busy and having trouble keeping up as scum. But it is incredibly easy to just post a read, give a reason, then stick with that for the entire game. And that is what gkrieg is doing here so far.

Also, while I initially was townreading gkrieg for his case on Math, I think that because Math is an easy player to pick on, he's an easy target. So I can see the scum narrative there too in terms of trying to pick a town player as scum who looks scummy in order to have a case and look town. And then you naturally end up on someone who is misexiled often.

So, to me, it's not just gkrieg lurking. It's also the content of the lurking.

If this is the case I didn’t respond to then I know why I didn’t respond. I already talked about how changing reads is easy, and ironically, you can see my read change on EFHW throughout D1 if you look at my posts.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)

« on: September 26, 2021, 03:40:50 pm »

Forget waiting.

Vote: gkrieg

He hasn't posted in nearly 48 hours. But his profile says last active on forum at 12:34pm today. He's watching, and just hoping the wagon sways away from him. He's afraid if he says something, it will further incriminate him.

I believe that's X-1.

I'm never scared of saying something. Especially in this case, as I wasn't really incriminated in the first place. People are voting me for two reasons that are easy for me to fix by posting.